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Go ahead and get started. We've
got a full morning, this morning.

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And we're so excited to have our National
Blue Ribbon schools here. We wanted to wish

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a hearty congratulations to everyone. We
really appreciate you coming. This is always

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a very exciting award for us.
And we're so

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proud of all of our schools
in Texas but these

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schools, just it's wonderful
to recognize them

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at this time each year.
I'd like to go ahead

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and call on Barbara Cargill
to introduce the choir

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from Bryan High School.

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So good morning. While they're

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setting up and getting
situated, I'll go ahead

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and tell you a little bit
of information about

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this amazing choir. So Local Legacy is the
contemporary acapella group from Travis B

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Bryan High School and Bryan ISD.
The group

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began singing in the
acappella genre in 2014,

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I've been told they kind of sound
like Pentatonix, which is like I've been to

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their concert. I love
all that kind of music.

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So this is awesome.
They have won numerous

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awards, including first
place at the ICHSA

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Southwest quarterfinal,
including outstanding

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soloist and best choreography. The group is
made up of sophomores, juniors and seniors.

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Members participate in
AP courses, dual credit,

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cheerleading, football,
basketball, theater,

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drill team, equestrian,
gymnastics and golf.

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Good heavens, do you sleep?
That's a question.

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Oor study? More importantly,
do you study? We're

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so glad to have them here
under choir director

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Alex Medlock. Do you
want to come talk now or

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after? You got come up here.
Come up here.

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He has been at Bryan High School for
nineteen years. He's been in education for

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twenty, so that's pretty impressive.
And we're

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so grateful for for
teachers like like him

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And Britney Gibson, the assistant director
of choirs, is also here. Patrick Corbett,

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Fine arts director. Where
you Mr Corbett? Back

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in the back. Good. Nice to see you.
And then,

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of course, Dr Christine
Whitbeck, my friend, the

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superintendent of Bryan
ISD is right there.

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We're so grateful when
people like that come

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to support their students.
Thank you. Thank

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you. And with that, do
you want to give them a

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little bit more detail?
- Just real briefly.

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As Mrs Cargill stated, this
is not your traditional

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choir robes, stand and
put on the pearls, this

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is this is more of an experience on.
So if

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you've seen Pitch Perfect,
thes acapella groups

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were kind of formed
after the Pitch Perfect

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model. And Kayla Callen,
one of our seniors

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is going to share real briefly
about these songs before we sing.

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You can speak into the mic right here.
Pam do you mind turning your mic on?

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I think that would work.
You want to stay in the
circle.

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- So our set is essentially

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about finding peace through the pain.
As trials

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come our way, we can
always lean into the

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things that remain constant.
Such as family, goals,

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passions, etcetera. So that's
what we're trying to convey.

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(music plays)

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(applause)

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(music plays)

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(applause)

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- Okay, wait a minute. We gotta do photos,
don't we? Where are we gonna do them?

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It's up to you. I just have to, okay, who
was doing the bird noises? Where are you?

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As a science teacher, thank you, that
was awesome. And then where's the

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young man that was doing all the other
noises? Where you born doing that?

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- I started when I was nine, and I'm
nineteen now, so a good chunk of my life.

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We want to talk to your mother. One of the other

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board members and I were wondering. You guys,
y'all are so gifted, we really are, as

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another board member just
said, we're so amazed

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at what our high school
students can do, you

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know. I mean, we just have so much talent
in Bryan, Texas, and we're so proud of you

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and wish you the very best in your future.
But just a second, if the superintendent,

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Dr. Whitbeck and the
fine arts administrators

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and choir directors come on up.
So we're going

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to present you with this
special recognition.

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I don't smell. Come closer.
All right. Well,

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maybe maybe. State Board
of Education special

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recognition presented to
Vocal Legacy at Bryan

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High School, under the
direction of Alex Medlock,

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director of choirs, and
Britney Gibson, assistant

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director of choirs in appreciation for the
outstanding performance at the State Board

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of Education General Meeting. So thank you
guys so much. Thank you for getting up early

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and driving over and
keep up the good work.
So let's hear it for them.

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Right now, I'd like to call on Member
Davis to give our invocation and pledge.

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Let us bow our heads.

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Lord, On this day, I approach
your throne of grace

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and mercy with a
gentle and humble spirit

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thanking you for the
opportunity to be an

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influential part of your
desire for our children's

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needs. The future of our world lies in the
hands of over five million Texas children

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who are looking to us for guidance. As your
chosen leaders, we want to emulate David,

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someone of your heart who
was strong in confidence

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and character, someone
who knew the need of

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God for protection,
strength, training and

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guidance. May our actions
always show integrity,

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authenticity, compassion
and humility as we

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strive to make decisions
that not only impact

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the state but ultimately
the world. Continue to

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bless us as we bless others,
releasing ourselves

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to follow thee. In your
name we pray. Amen.

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Our US Pledge.
I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the
United States of America

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and to the Republic for
which it stands, One

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nation under God,
indivisible with liberty

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and justice for all. Our
Texas pledge. Honor

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the Texas flag. I pledge
allegiance to thee

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Texas, one state under God,
one and indivisible.

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All right, now we'll go
ahead and do our roll call.
Miss Ratcliffe?

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- Mr. Allen? Miss Cargill?

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Mr. Cortez? Miss Davis? Dr. Ellis? Miss Hardy?
Mrs. Little?
- She's here. Oh, taking a picture.

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- Mr. Maynard? Mrs Melton Malone?
Mr Mercer? Mis.

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Perez? Ms. Perez Diaz? Dr Robinson?
Mr. Rowley?

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And Chair Boharich.

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I wanted, the first item on the
agenda is to approve the minutes.

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Were there any corrections to the
January 28 and February 1 minutes from

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last meeting? Hearing none,
the minutes are approved.

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And now Miss Perez is going to give
our resolutions and presentations.

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This morning we're recognizing
our National Blue Ribbon Schools

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in two groups because
there are so many.

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Board members, if you would please
join your blue ribbon schools.

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- And which group?
- This is Group One.

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If you'll look at your
yellow papers on your desk,

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you have them divided
on one group is on top.

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That would be Group One. The group
below the line would be Group Two.

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(microphone turns off)

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But I'll be there for the photos.

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It is my mission, early college, high school, our principal, and yeah.

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You ready?

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We'll get it together.

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Whereas, the National Blue Ribbon
Schools Program recognizes

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elementary, middle and high schools
where educational excellence

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is achieved. Whereas a
National Blue Ribbon

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School's flag overhead
is a mark of exemplary

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teaching and learning.
Whereas in 2018, Texas

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nominated twenty six
schools to be recognized

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for their students' achievement.
And whereas

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twenty three of these
schools were named

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2018 National Blue Ribbon Schools by the
United States Department of Education.

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Now, therefore be it resolved that the State
Board of Education does hereby extend its

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congratulations to
Northwest Early College

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High School in Canutillo ISD.
Challenge Early

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College High School,
DeBakey High School for

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Health Professions, and
East Early College

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High School in Houston ISD.
Jimmy Carter Early

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College High School
in La Hoya ISD.

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Mercedes Early College
Academy in Mercedes ISD.

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Mumford Elementary
School in Mumford ISD.

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Mission Early College High
School in Socorro ISD.

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Valley View Elementary
School and Valley View South

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Elementary School in Valley View ISD. And
Wallcott Elementary School and Walcott ISD

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as exemplary high performing schools.
And be it

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further resolved that this
resolution be presented

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to the principals of the
aforementioned schools

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being recognized for
excellence through the

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National Blue Ribbon
Schools program and that

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a copy be included in
the permanent records

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of the State Board of Education.
Witness our

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signatures this fifth
day of April, 2019,

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in Austin, Texas. Donna Boharich,
Chair. Georgina Perez, Secretary.

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(inaduble speech off-microphone)
(audience chatter)

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(audience chatter)

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(microphone cuts off)

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(audience chatter)

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Okay, so schools who should be in the
circle for photographs: Arrow Academy

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Ann Maggie Elementary
School, Hargill Elementary

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School, Golden Rule
School, Dishman Elementary,

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JC Kelly. Idea. Jackson.
Kawas in my Laredo.

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Nettie Marshall. Carmen Anaya..
Cesar Chavez

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Okay. Are all of those schools in the
circle? Okay. You ready? Not yet. Okay.

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(audience chatter)

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(microphone cuts off)

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Members, We're going to take a break
for pictures for those who did not get

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pictures of, right after this resolution is
done.

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(audience chatter)

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(microphone cuts out)

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Whereas the National Blue
Ribbon Schools program

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recognizes elementary, middle
and high schools where

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educational excellence is achieved.
Whereas

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a National Blue Ribbon
School flag overhead

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is a mark of exemplary teaching and
learning. Whereas in 2018, Texas nominated

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twenty six schools to
be recognized for their

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students' achievement.
Whereas twenty three

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of the schools were named 2018 National
Blue Ribbon Schools by the United

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States Department of Education.
Now, therefore

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be it resolved that the
State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its
congratulations to

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Arrow Academy, Liberation Academy,
Meadows Place, of Arrow Academy.

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Ann Maggie Elementary School and Hargill
Elementary School in Edinburgh CISD.

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Magee. Sorry. Ann Magee
Elementary School. Golden

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Rule School, Sunnyside
Campus of Golden Rule

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Charter School. Dishman Elementary School
in Harlingen CISD. JC Kelly Elementary

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School in Hidalgo ISD.
Idea Mission Academy, Mission

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of Idea Public Schools.
Jackson Elementary

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School in Lamar CISD.
Jay Cullis Elementary

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School in Laredo ISD.
Nettie Marshall Academy

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of Dual Language in Nacogdoches ISD.
Carmen Anaya Elementary School and

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Cesar Chavez Elementary
School in Pharr-San

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Juan-Alamo ISD as
exemplary achievement gap

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closing schools. And be
it further resolved that

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this resolution be presented
to the principals

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of the aforementioned
schools being recognized

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for excellence through
the National Blue Ribbon

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Schools program and
that a copy be included

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in the permanent records
of the State Board

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of Education. Witness our signatures, this
fifth day of April 2019, in

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Austin, Texas. Chair Donna Bahorich,
Georgina Perez, Secretary. Congratulations.
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(audience chatter)

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I tried to take a picture with you,
but they said just two more minutes.

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(audience chatter)

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- Gina, You can go ahead and read the
resolution so we could vote on those.

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- There are no more to read.
We're done.

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- Oh, well, get up here then.
- That's what I was trying to do.

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(microphone turns off)

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(audience chatter)

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- Read the adoption, you
know, (microphone cuts out)

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- Good morning. Donna can I say
hi to my family that came up?

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Can I say hi to my family that came up?
First of all, let me say good morning,

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and it's a very, very
good day, a good feeling

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in the room. And I would
be remiss if I didn't

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say good morning to my
family, which is actually

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my, what's called HISD
team, HISD family.

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I know you got on that
bus about five. So

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you're looking good right now.
Congratulations

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to each and every one of you.
And the reason

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we're here today is
because we recognize that

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there is excellence all over the state of
Texas. And you have proven that today. And

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on behalf of board, we
congratulate you seven

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hundred times because
you make us all proud.

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Have a safe trip home. And we look forward
to seeing you on the other end. Take care.

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- Madam Chair, I move that we
approve these resolutions

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as presented.
- All those in favor say aye.

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The resolutions have been adopted.
Again, hearty

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congratulations to everyone.
It's just really

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a privilege to have you here with us today.
And I want to make sure that everybody has

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had their pictures taken
with their members.

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So we're going to take,
like, a just a ten

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minute break just to make sure that we've
got everybody connected with their members

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if they didn't get the
picture taken early.

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So we'll get back
together members, right

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at ten o'clock. Or five til ten.
So over here

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in the corner, if you
need to take pictures.

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Members, I think we've finally gotten all
of our pictures taken. And that was really

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wonderful to have everybody here.
So many.

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And congratulations to
you Mr Cortez, I think

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you are the award winner today.
Did you have,

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like, nine schools? That's amazing.
That was

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wonderful. Okay, members, we're gonna move
on to the first item of the agenda, which

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is the approval of the
Consent Agenda, and I

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will be skipping. And
that's on page 28

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iin your Board Agenda book.
And I will be

00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:12.120
skipping items three
and four because those

00:38:12.120 --> 00:38:15.928
will be discussed in
the update on the

00:38:15.953 --> 00:38:19.821
report on the Committee
on Instruction. Those

00:38:19.821 --> 00:38:22.157
were pulled from the Consent Agenda.
So there's

00:38:22.182 --> 00:38:24.250
will have further discussion.
When we get

00:38:24.250 --> 00:38:30.490
to those minutes. We're
on page twenty eight of

00:38:30.515 --> 00:38:36.470
the Board Agenda book.
All right, the Consent

00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:41.940
Agenda is item number one. Procedural
action related to new 19 TAC Chapter 113,

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:47.110
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for
Social Studies, Subchapter C, High School

00:38:47.110 --> 00:38:51.740
113.50, Ethnic Studies Mexican American
Studies, one credit, second reading

00:38:51.740 --> 00:38:55.052
and final adoption. Item
number two, proposed

00:38:55.077 --> 00:38:58.890
amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 114

00:38:58.890 --> 00:39:01.960
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for
Languages Other than English, Subchapter C

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.470
High School 114.53, Advanced
Language for Career Applications,

00:39:07.470 --> 00:39:11.460
one credit. Skipping
down to item five, which

00:39:11.485 --> 00:39:15.190
is now on page 29. Ratification

00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:17.066
of the purchase and
sales of the investment

00:39:17.091 --> 00:39:19.070
portfolio of the Permanent
School Fund for the

00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:25.230
months of December 2018 and January 2019.
Item six. Adoption of an

00:39:25.230 --> 00:39:28.480
annual report on the status
of the Bond Guarantee

00:39:28.505 --> 00:39:31.340
Program. Item seven,
decision on real estate

00:39:31.340 --> 00:39:34.624
investments. Item eight,
review of the Permanent

00:39:34.649 --> 00:39:37.640
School Fund, Real Estate
Policy and Tactical

00:39:37.640 --> 00:39:40.118
Plan. Item nine, Review
of the Permanent School

00:39:40.143 --> 00:39:42.390
Fund Emerging Market
Debt Asset Class. Item

00:39:42.390 --> 00:39:47.780
ten. Presentation on the Permanent School
Fund Private Equity Program Structure. Item

00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:53.721
eleven, permanent School Fund Logo Contest
Contribution. Item twelve, recommendation

00:39:53.721 --> 00:39:57.417
for appointments to the
Boys Ranch School,

00:39:57.442 --> 00:40:01.370
Independent School
District Board of Trustees.

00:40:01.370 --> 00:40:05.440
And there were three more items that were
added to the Consent Agenda, and I'll just

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:12.280
read those titles. Two of them were from
the Permanent School Fund Agenda which

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:18.030
the next item is adoption of review of
19 TAC Chapter 129, Student Attendance,

00:40:18.030 --> 00:40:20.547
Subchapter A, Student
Attendance Allowed, and

00:40:20.572 --> 00:40:23.010
Subchapter B, Student
Attendance Accounting.

00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:28.140
And this is basically just an adoption of
the review itself. So this was added to the

00:40:28.140 --> 00:40:34.990
Consent Agenda. The next item is proposed
amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 109,

00:40:34.990 --> 00:40:39.810
Budgeting, Accounting and Auditing,
Subchapter C, Adoptions by Reference 109.41,

00:40:39.810 --> 00:40:45.610
Financial Accountability System Resource
Guide. Again. First reading and

00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:49.240
filing authorization.
That was, has been put

00:40:49.265 --> 00:40:52.950
on the Consent Agenda.
And the last item that

00:40:52.950 --> 00:40:58.250
was added to the Consent Agenda was from the
Committee on School Initiatives, which is

00:40:58.250 --> 00:41:05.601
the adoption of review of 19 TAC Chapter
157, Hearings and Appeals, Subchapter A,

00:41:05.601 --> 00:41:10.511
General Provisions for Hearings Before the
State Board of Education, and Subchapter D,

00:41:10.511 --> 00:41:17.910
Independent Hearing Examiners. Is there
any discussion on the Consent Agenda? All

00:41:17.910 --> 00:41:24.250
those in favor say aye, all those opposed say
nay. Ayes have it. The motion is adopted

00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:30.730
for the Consent Agenda. Next, we're going
to go ahead and do our testimony. I believe

00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:34.425
we've got three testifiers today.
And you will

00:41:34.450 --> 00:41:38.120
be given three minutes
to have your testimony,

00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:43.590
and thirty seconds before the end of your
three minutes, you will hear a single bell,

00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:45.740
and that will signal
that you're getting down

00:41:45.765 --> 00:41:47.890
to the last thirty seconds.
At the end of your

00:41:47.890 --> 00:41:52.490
three minutes you will hear a double bell
and that means that your testimony needs be

00:41:52.490 --> 00:41:55.324
wrapped up. So if you'll
literally just wrap up

00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.040
your last sentence there,
and then, the board

00:41:58.040 --> 00:42:00.714
will have an opportunity
to ask you any

00:42:00.739 --> 00:42:03.990
clarifying questions on your testimony.
So let's

00:42:03.990 --> 00:42:13.341
go ahead and announce our testifiers.
- Jeannette. LeFevers, followed by Sandra West.

00:42:13.341 --> 00:42:16.034
- Good morning. Nice
to see you again. This

00:42:16.059 --> 00:42:18.910
will be a short and sweet.
I want to thank all

00:42:18.910 --> 00:42:23.260
of you for the work that you have done up
to this point. We really, truly do seem to

00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:31.040
be getting to the end of the issues with IB.
Many of them are scheduled for your next

00:42:31.040 --> 00:42:34.049
meeting. However, there
remains one area that

00:42:34.074 --> 00:42:36.730
I want to make sure
that you're aware of.

00:42:36.730 --> 00:42:43.790
And that is we have not yet addressed the
IB Arts. Other than IB Film. As you well

00:42:43.790 --> 00:42:46.867
know any changes to that
chapter will require

00:42:46.892 --> 00:42:49.610
I believe, at least three meetings.
So we

00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:53.480
are hopeful that that can
be on the next agenda

00:42:53.505 --> 00:42:57.270
and we can finally put
these issues to a rest.

00:42:57.270 --> 00:42:59.541
So those have not been
addressed as far as

00:42:59.566 --> 00:43:04.570
credits and whether or
not they count towards
graduation. Thank you.

00:43:08.500 --> 00:43:15.470
- Any questions for Jeanette? And you
didn't have a handout for that?

00:43:15.540 --> 00:43:18.822
All right. Hearing none. Thank you. Sandra
West, followed by Ronald Smith. Thank you.

00:43:18.846 --> 00:43:22.046
Sandra West, followed by Ronald Smith.

00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:41.570
(microphone cuts off)

00:43:41.594 --> 00:43:42.321
Thank you.

00:43:42.322 --> 00:43:46.076
You think I'd know that
wouldn't you, after

00:43:46.101 --> 00:43:50.000
all these years. Sorry. As
I was saying I'm speaking

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.846
from the yellow sheets there.
When I moved

00:43:51.871 --> 00:43:53.820
from high school and
middle school, I learned

00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:57.756
the value of colors. That's
actually how I analysed

00:43:57.781 --> 00:44:01.010
some of my phD data.
Interestingly enough.

00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:05.150
What I'm speaking on today is, and I want
to thank you for the Friday Open mic that

00:44:05.150 --> 00:44:08.595
you have for for us. I'm
speaking on Science

00:44:08.620 --> 00:44:12.040
STAAR and other policies
that I think impede

00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:16.721
student learning. This
was triggered by my

00:44:16.746 --> 00:44:21.510
viewing of the third
grade reading marathon.

00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:24.843
I had an ah-ha moment.
And then I seemed to

00:44:24.868 --> 00:44:28.480
make some connections
among seemingly disparate

00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.713
phenomena that will only
partially be explained

00:44:31.738 --> 00:44:35.080
today. But perhaps engender
a larger conversation

00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:40.470
later. So this is a story. So I put dates on
it so you can follow it. In fall of 2015,

00:44:40.470 --> 00:44:45.551
I was observing a fifth grade
student, a student teacher, and they

00:44:45.551 --> 00:44:51.510
were teaching series and parallel circuits,
and I was quite surprised. So I asked the

00:44:51.510 --> 00:44:55.220
teacher, who was actually a friend of mine,
and I said, Why are you doing that? And she

00:44:55.220 --> 00:44:59.590
said, Well, it's in the TEKS, and I said, No,
I don't think so. You know, where is the

00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:03.150
evidence? As we say in science. So we pulled
out the TEKS, and sure enough, it was not

00:45:03.150 --> 00:45:05.365
in the TEKS and she said,
Well, that's in the

00:45:05.390 --> 00:45:07.580
STAAR. And I said naively,
Oh, no, you cannot

00:45:07.580 --> 00:45:11.857
test it on STAAR if it's
not in the TEKS. And

00:45:11.882 --> 00:45:15.670
so she pulled out a
fifth grade item, and

00:45:15.670 --> 00:45:20.711
in that item, it said
something about a series

00:45:20.736 --> 00:45:25.430
circuits in the STEM. So if you,

00:45:25.430 --> 00:45:29.891
and I actually have the fifth grade
Science TEKS there, it's 6.5b if you want

00:45:29.891 --> 00:45:34.581
to see the actual language of it, which is
actually just about a complete circuit. So

00:45:34.581 --> 00:45:38.238
in December, I contacted
TEA about this misleading

00:45:38.263 --> 00:45:41.310
STAAR language, which
actually resulted in

00:45:41.310 --> 00:45:43.404
fifth grade science
teachers not only teaching

00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:45.320
about what a complete
circuit is, which is

00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.377
critical for survival,
but series and parallel

00:45:48.402 --> 00:45:51.500
and I was quite surprised
because when I taught

00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:55.880
IPC, that's in IPC TEKS, and I actually
have that listed on there for you if you'd

00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.680
like to compare it. So
when I asked TEA about

00:45:59.705 --> 00:46:03.480
the misleading STAAR
language, they responded

00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.209
in blue there and they
were saying that they

00:46:06.234 --> 00:46:09.180
really were not testing
series and parallel

00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:12.337
circuits, only a complete circuit.
Nevertheless,

00:46:12.362 --> 00:46:15.300
what has resulted from
that term series being

00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:18.656
in a STAAR, STEM, a
STAAR item in the STEM

00:46:18.681 --> 00:46:22.090
is that teachers are
teaching far beyond, in

00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:28.180
this case, four years beyond what an eleven
year old should be learning about complete

00:46:28.180 --> 00:46:31.535
circuits. So that has had an impact.
As we've

00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:34.890
seen in the classroom
and district's and lead

00:46:34.890 --> 00:46:37.193
forward documents and
other instructional

00:46:37.218 --> 00:46:39.770
materials. I'm going to
skip the next section,

00:46:39.770 --> 00:46:42.664
which is about eighth
grade, a similar problem

00:46:42.689 --> 00:46:45.250
in the eighth grade
and then jump over to

00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:50.610
2018. Well, you know, I'm an Aggie and
so I'm a little slow and so finally

00:46:50.610 --> 00:46:57.500
in, you can say that you see if you're an
Aggie. So what I discovered was in the TEA

00:46:57.500 --> 00:47:01.212
performance level descriptors.
And, sure enough,

00:47:01.237 --> 00:47:04.470
in the level three it
has explain the flow

00:47:04.470 --> 00:47:13.220
of energy in series and parallel circuits.
That my bell?
- Yes, Mr. Mercer?

00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:16.804
- Madam Chair. Just a quick moment.
Two items

00:47:16.829 --> 00:47:20.310
of personal privilege.
First, Dr Sandra West

00:47:20.310 --> 00:47:28.980
is my 2019 MVC. That's right, MVS, my
Most Valuable Constituents. And the

00:47:28.980 --> 00:47:30.781
first two of two items,
she brought, she's always

00:47:30.806 --> 00:47:32.690
bringing us some great students.
She's has two young

00:47:32.690 --> 00:47:34.968
men. If you please stand
Mr Wright and Mr.

00:47:34.993 --> 00:47:37.510
Gurut, who are this semester
are finishing their

00:47:37.510 --> 00:47:42.630
student teaching and will be entering Texas
public schools teaching middle school

00:47:42.630 --> 00:47:46.606
science. Welcome to your State
Board of Education. And a second

00:47:46.631 --> 00:47:50.210
personal, have another friend today.
I love a constituient

00:47:50.210 --> 00:47:55.780
to come. They all want to see how the
State Board operates. I'm not sure they had

00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:59.890
trouble sleeping or what, but they want to
come see what we do. But another friend,

00:47:59.890 --> 00:48:02.267
Doctor Miss Lonnie Pope,
a twenty five year

00:48:02.292 --> 00:48:04.810
special ed teacher in
speech pathology, which

00:48:04.810 --> 00:48:06.654
is now called the
Communication Sciences.

00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.630
She's here today. Lonnie
if you please stand.

00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:11.625
And she has five children
but four are public

00:48:11.650 --> 00:48:14.490
school teachers. One in
high school physics.

00:48:14.490 --> 00:48:17.195
And three of followed their
Mom, and all three got

00:48:17.220 --> 00:48:19.900
their masters in speech
pathology or communication

00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:24.695
science disorders. Welcome to the
State Board. Thank you, Madam Chair.

00:48:24.720 --> 00:48:29.220
- Absolutely, do we have any
questions specifically for Dr West?
Yes, Ms. Hardy.

00:48:29.220 --> 00:48:40.510
Thank you. As always, being a favorite
constituent of all of us. Actually. What do

00:48:40.510 --> 00:48:44.577
you think happened if
you, the time period

00:48:44.602 --> 00:48:48.470
that you're talking about
is two years prior

00:48:48.470 --> 00:48:54.780
to, so you gave people heads up, and then
it still showed up again two years later.

00:48:54.780 --> 00:49:00.060
That what I'm understanding?
- Well, actually, if you look on
the blue document, my color

00:49:00.060 --> 00:49:04.970
code for TEA is blue. So if you look on
that blue document, downat the bottom. I

00:49:04.970 --> 00:49:09.196
think you'LL see a time
stamp or something down

00:49:09.221 --> 00:49:13.070
at the bottom of that one.
- I didn't get that one.

00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:16.283
I didn't get one of those.
Got forgotten.

00:49:16.308 --> 00:49:21.180
- So that's a copy of those
performance level descriptors which

00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:27.770
the series and parallel circuits language
has been in there since what? 2012 or 13?

00:49:27.770 --> 00:49:33.880
So it's, you know, it's been there
quite a while, and it's not. It's

00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.381
not so much the idea
of requiring them to

00:49:36.406 --> 00:49:39.060
teach it, which this is
how it's interpreted.

00:49:39.060 --> 00:49:44.660
But just that language vocabulary words of
series and parallel tells everybody, Okay,

00:49:44.660 --> 00:49:46.789
this is going to be on
STAAR, and they need

00:49:46.814 --> 00:49:48.870
to know it if they're
going to move to that

00:49:48.870 --> 00:49:54.570
Level 3 on their scores.
- But the frightening part about
this is that this is just one

00:49:54.570 --> 00:50:01.180
thing that you've come across by chance
because you were in the classroom and what

00:50:01.180 --> 00:50:05.045
else might be on the test that
might be throwing teachers

00:50:05.070 --> 00:50:08.310
off and kids off is the
concerning part. Because

00:50:08.310 --> 00:50:14.500
I don't think it's isolated.
- Well, I think what I'm hoping
is this engenders a larger

00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:19.620
conversation because I think there's many
policies that we have that I see where it

00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:22.436
impedes student learning.
And I have the eighth

00:50:22.461 --> 00:50:24.900
grade example in there
Haven't gotten to

00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:30.918
high school biology yet.
- Thank you.

00:50:30.943 --> 00:50:36.310
So, Monica, you know, maybe
you can explain this to me

00:50:36.310 --> 00:50:41.620
now that you're working in this area, you
know, working on the assessments and which

00:50:41.620 --> 00:50:49.310
I really am glad we've got more of a tie
in with our standards with your group. And

00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:54.167
what I guess I don't
understand on the advanced

00:50:54.192 --> 00:50:58.620
part, why would we put
out information that

00:50:58.620 --> 00:51:01.884
wouldn't be aligned specifically
to the standards

00:51:01.909 --> 00:51:05.010
for that grade that
indicates anything about

00:51:05.010 --> 00:51:12.860
what, you know that, okay, now we want you
to do these advanced standards that really

00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:17.460
aren't, that are not in the TEKS. I guess
I'm confused. I understand why you'd

00:51:17.460 --> 00:51:20.970
want to be sure and have
a testing range where,

00:51:20.995 --> 00:51:24.260
you know, it's below the
grade, at the grade,

00:51:24.260 --> 00:51:26.666
maybe above the grade somewhat.
But then to

00:51:26.691 --> 00:51:29.290
suggest standards that
are not in the standards

00:51:29.290 --> 00:51:31.691
as being, this will,
this will get you up to

00:51:31.716 --> 00:51:33.931
this point. I'm confused about that.
Maybe

00:51:33.931 --> 00:51:36.798
you could explain that.
- So I think we have a

00:51:36.823 --> 00:51:39.411
couple of issues here.
Number one. You're

00:51:39.411 --> 00:51:44.250
not posted to have this discussion, so I'm
not sure that it's really appropriate for

00:51:44.250 --> 00:51:48.850
us to engage in. I mean, you can certainly
ask questions of the testifier, but we're

00:51:48.850 --> 00:51:51.667
certainly not prepared.
And I would say that

00:51:51.692 --> 00:51:54.610
I'm going to borrow some
of Shelly's language.

00:51:54.610 --> 00:51:56.936
We probably know just
enough to be dangerous.

00:51:56.961 --> 00:51:59.010
I think that this is
a complex issue that

00:51:59.010 --> 00:52:05.900
I would not want to misrepresent. I would
wanna have our content directors in the room

00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:08.057
to have that conversation with you.
So that's

00:52:08.082 --> 00:52:10.120
a conversation that the
board would like to

00:52:10.120 --> 00:52:13.371
have. You can certainly
put an item on your

00:52:13.396 --> 00:52:16.770
next agenda, and we can
have that discussion,

00:52:16.770 --> 00:52:18.848
but we're number one,
you're not posted to

00:52:18.873 --> 00:52:21.070
have the discussion. And
number two, we don't

00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:24.553
have the right staff in
the room to be able to

00:52:24.578 --> 00:52:28.110
provide you with the best
possible explanations

00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:31.905
of what are some not
simple matters.

00:52:31.930 --> 00:52:37.650
- Gotcha. Dr. Robinson then Miss Cargill.
- Yeah. I mean,

00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.070
this is another example
of, and I don't know,

00:52:41.095 --> 00:52:44.490
factually if this's the
case or not, but I mean

00:52:44.490 --> 00:52:47.277
another example that maybe
the STAAR is testing

00:52:47.302 --> 00:52:50.180
above grade level, which
is, if that's happening,

00:52:50.180 --> 00:52:53.055
that's a serious problem.
It's a serious problem.

00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:55.700
So I mean, I personally
would like, you know,

00:52:55.700 --> 00:52:57.790
I know the Commissioner
the other day said that

00:52:57.815 --> 00:52:59.750
they looked at it a
couple years ago and it's on

00:52:59.750 --> 00:53:05.881
Um, personally, that's not, that's not
good enough for me, really. I would

00:53:05.881 --> 00:53:08.470
like maybe the next
meeting or sometime, I

00:53:08.495 --> 00:53:11.240
don't know. in the next
couple meetings, have

00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:15.533
another review by staff.
Looking at it, as some

00:53:15.558 --> 00:53:19.460
of these issues is, are
we sure, are we a hundred

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:22.313
percent certain that
we're teaching on grade

00:53:22.338 --> 00:53:25.420
level?
- So I would just say as the
Commissioner

00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:28.295
has said, we feel very
confident in the validity

00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.810
and reliability of
the tests. We're happy

00:53:30.810 --> 00:53:36.940
to go back and look at specific issues that
were raised. Certainly we're trying to do

00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.245
those things. For those
of you who have, were

00:53:40.270 --> 00:53:43.340
not on the board before,
you may or may not

00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.421
know that the curriculum
division did not play

00:53:46.446 --> 00:53:49.370
the same role a few years
ago in a assessment

00:53:49.370 --> 00:53:55.370
that we do now. So we are absolutely in a
position where we want to make sure that

00:53:55.370 --> 00:54:01.720
we are looking at and understanding all of
these issues ourselves because we, prior to

00:54:01.720 --> 00:54:07.880
2017, did not have that primary
responsibility. And so we are working on all

00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.381
of those issues. I think
we just want to make

00:54:11.406 --> 00:54:14.730
sure that we're clear
that they are complex

00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:22.420
issues and there's some things, it is
easy to have some misunderstanding.

00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:26.560
Which is why I don't want to get into the
details because I don't want to add to any

00:54:26.560 --> 00:54:29.522
potential confusion that might exist.

00:54:29.547 --> 00:54:32.420
- Okay, so what we can do members
if we'll just restrict

00:54:32.420 --> 00:54:35.582
our questions to Dr
West specifically about

00:54:35.607 --> 00:54:38.960
this issue about, so that
we understand clearly

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.605
if there's any question
about that so staff

00:54:41.630 --> 00:54:44.310
could go work on that later on.
Miss Cargill?

00:54:44.310 --> 00:54:49.870
- Yeah, I just, and Dr Robinson reminded
everybody, that way did talk about this with

00:54:49.870 --> 00:54:55.260
the Commissioner. And it was actually with
Sandra's help that I brought this issue up

00:54:55.260 --> 00:54:58.428
about the example of the
series and parallel circuits.

00:54:58.453 --> 00:55:01.020
I did send this example
to the Commissioner,

00:55:01.020 --> 00:55:07.680
and I copied Monica and you, Madam Chair. And
so hopefully we can talk about this more

00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:10.335
because I think it's
just some updating that

00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:13.050
needs to happen. But it
is pretty disturbing,

00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:17.060
as you mentioned that companies like Leap
Forward are using these performance level

00:55:17.060 --> 00:55:23.680
descriptors from 2013, which I understand
why, you know, that they're going

00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:25.197
to the level three. Of
course, that you're

00:55:25.222 --> 00:55:26.820
going to jump to level
three because you want

00:55:26.820 --> 00:55:29.754
your kids to master
above and beyond to do

00:55:29.779 --> 00:55:32.960
well on the test. So could you,
did you finish

00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:38.039
your testimony, or could you wrap it up?
You were mid-sentence.

00:55:38.064 --> 00:55:40.340
- Yeah, it's an answer to your

00:55:40.340 --> 00:55:44.089
question. If you look on
that back page there,

00:55:44.114 --> 00:55:47.440
I had made a suggestion
for a possibility

00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.390
for a level three descriptor in this
particular instance. Apply scientific ideas

00:55:52.390 --> 00:55:58.310
to design, test and refine a device that
converts energy from one form to another.

00:55:58.310 --> 00:56:02.077
So that would move students
beyond that minimum

00:56:02.102 --> 00:56:05.530
level of the TEKS if you would.
But it does

00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:08.632
not add more vocabulary
or other concepts to

00:56:08.657 --> 00:56:11.940
them. So this is very
much an application STEM.

00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:14.858
- And I think these are good.
This is pretty clear.

00:56:14.883 --> 00:56:17.440
So maybe, you know, this
kind of helps that to

00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.082
know where to go from there.
Yes, Miss Davis.

00:56:22.107 --> 00:56:25.210
- Thank you. I also want to note

00:56:25.210 --> 00:56:27.770
that the series and
parallel is included in

00:56:27.795 --> 00:56:30.271
the junior physics
curriculum as well. When

00:56:30.271 --> 00:56:33.900
I taught physics, I actually had to go to a
couple of elementary schools and go over

00:56:33.900 --> 00:56:38.619
this exact lesson because we had a lot of
tools and equipment to teach that. But the

00:56:38.619 --> 00:56:41.328
elementary teachers did not.
And so I know

00:56:41.353 --> 00:56:44.100
it is very advanced. In
your opinion, should

00:56:44.100 --> 00:56:50.100
they not be exposed to this vocabulary
at this young of an age? How are they

00:56:50.100 --> 00:56:52.309
testing on this particular item?

00:56:52.334 --> 00:56:56.450
- Well, if you, I don't remember
if I left the assessment

00:56:56.450 --> 00:57:00.641
in there, but the vocabulary
words are introduced

00:57:00.666 --> 00:57:04.580
with the level three,
they're not assessed, being

00:57:04.580 --> 00:57:07.876
assessed on series and parallel.
But that instruction

00:57:07.901 --> 00:57:10.440
is occurring in the
classroom because the

00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.303
vocabulary is in the
level three performance

00:57:14.328 --> 00:57:18.080
descriptors. And so,
as you see, it's being

00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:23.730
taught. I taught it in IPC High School.
I mean, electricians need to know series

00:57:23.730 --> 00:57:27.869
and parallels, not you and me. You know, we
just need to know a complete circuit so we

00:57:27.869 --> 00:57:35.031
don't get electrocuted.
- Dr. Ellis?
- Ms. West, thank you for being here. You know, I

00:57:35.031 --> 00:57:37.810
think a lot of times when we try to raise
issues such as this, we're going to raise

00:57:37.810 --> 00:57:42.670
it to the awareness of the legislators who
are the ones who can work with us. I know

00:57:42.670 --> 00:57:44.208
that this has been a
very hot topic in the

00:57:44.233 --> 00:57:45.890
Legislature. In fact, I
believe Representative

00:57:45.890 --> 00:57:48.416
Bernal has a bill to this
exact point that's, I think, in

00:57:48.441 --> 00:57:50.780
hearing in Public Ed on Tuesday.
Have you

00:57:50.780 --> 00:57:55.880
been working with them also, as again we
have some control over some of these issues,

00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.423
but really it's falling over there.
Have you

00:57:58.448 --> 00:58:00.910
gone down that avenue with
some of the Legislature?

00:58:00.910 --> 00:58:08.080
I was there twelve hours yesterday with a
three hour drive back and forth, actually

00:58:08.080 --> 00:58:11.184
twice, so six hours drive,
but I have not been working

00:58:11.209 --> 00:58:13.780
with Representative
Bernal on that particular

00:58:13.780 --> 00:58:16.389
issue. I do this part
time, you know, as a

00:58:16.414 --> 00:58:19.240
volunteer, etcetera. And
it's hard to keep up,

00:58:19.240 --> 00:58:26.270
I have no staff, so it's hard to keep up with
all of it. But I will go back to Senator

00:58:26.270 --> 00:58:41.340
Bernall on this. Thank you
- Any other questions of Doctor
West. Thank you.

00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:51.530
- Ronald Smith.
- Dr. Ron Little Smith, drove over here
from Junction this morning to testify, and

00:58:51.530 --> 00:58:55.147
I'm thankful that you folks
are hearing testiomony.

00:58:55.172 --> 00:58:57.930
Appreciate it. I'm an
emeritus professor

00:58:57.930 --> 00:59:01.324
of biology from the
University of Alaska in

00:59:01.349 --> 00:59:04.950
Fairbanks. I'm the author
of an Alaska Science

00:59:04.950 --> 00:59:08.668
book called "Interior And Northern
Alaska: A Natural History."

00:59:08.693 --> 00:59:12.150
I'm also the author of the novel
"Undeserved Punishments."

00:59:12.150 --> 00:59:19.281
These are two components of the TPS
publishing company STEM oriented ELAR

00:59:19.281 --> 00:59:26.990
curricula, program's K through eight, that
the panels, the review panel's confirmed

00:59:26.990 --> 00:59:34.170
aligned with the TEK standards at one hundred
percent in all grade levels. The board

00:59:34.170 --> 00:59:41.550
rejected all eighteen TPS curricula. Two at
every grade level K through eight. You were

00:59:41.550 --> 00:59:48.640
given in correct inaccurate data about the
edits and rejected the courses based on

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:52.281
wrong information. The
TPS edits were less than

00:59:52.306 --> 00:59:55.619
those of other publishers
who were actually

00:59:55.619 --> 01:00:02.510
passed. There are only three courses which
had any negative panel results at all. So

01:00:02.510 --> 01:00:09.210
I'm asking why were the other courses not
approved and adopted? The Grade One panelist

01:00:09.210 --> 01:00:13.551
confirmed their delight
in the program. So why

01:00:13.576 --> 01:00:17.800
did grade one could not pass?
Your staff made

01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:23.999
TPS move commas and edits
into errors and corrections,

01:00:24.024 --> 01:00:29.070
making TPS error numbers look high.
No other

01:00:29.070 --> 01:00:32.758
publisher was treated
in this way and I want

01:00:32.783 --> 01:00:36.610
to know why. A letter
from TPS legal

01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:40.399
counsel was sent to
each State Board member.

01:00:40.424 --> 01:00:44.360
And at the last meeting,
one of you hadn't seen

01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:55.580
it apparently. A copy was sent and
TPS was advised that State Board

01:00:55.580 --> 01:00:58.715
of Education Legal was
reviewing the appeal.

01:00:58.740 --> 01:01:01.780
TPS has recently been
advised that there is

01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:11.140
no state appeals process and I'm wondering
why that is the case as well. TPS was told

01:01:11.140 --> 01:01:15.264
that the matter had been
sent back to you the

01:01:15.289 --> 01:01:18.940
State Board for review
and consideration.

01:01:18.940 --> 01:01:21.425
Can I personally receive
a response to these

01:01:21.450 --> 01:01:24.130
questions? And I have this
testimony in writing.

01:01:24.130 --> 01:01:32.220
I can leave a copy with you. Over two years
of work put in by multiple Texas teachers

01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:35.425
like myself. And yet the
word of one panelist

01:01:35.450 --> 01:01:38.770
appears to have thwarted
two excellent programs

01:01:38.770 --> 01:01:42.995
from being on the approved list.
The TPS STEM-oriented

01:01:43.020 --> 01:01:46.770
ELAR curricula would have been

01:01:46.770 --> 01:01:51.656
the only such curricula
available to students

01:01:51.681 --> 01:01:56.010
in Texas. Now, none are available.
I urge

01:01:56.010 --> 01:02:00.314
you to reverse your
decision and fully approved

01:02:00.339 --> 01:02:04.080
the TPS ELAR curricula.
I have my contact

01:02:04.080 --> 01:02:11.800
information on this testimony. Thank you.
- Anybody have any questions for Dr Smith?

01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.675
Yes, Dr Ellis?
- The question may be for staff.

01:02:14.700 --> 01:02:17.310
I know that we're not,
under public comment,

01:02:17.310 --> 01:02:19.409
able to have discussion
or dialogue on specific

01:02:19.434 --> 01:02:21.330
issues. But one thing
we are allowed to do

01:02:21.330 --> 01:02:23.609
during public comment
is direct the testifier

01:02:23.634 --> 01:02:25.740
to appropriate staff
that might be able to

01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:28.264
answer those questions.
Is there an appropriat

01:02:28.289 --> 01:02:30.320
staff member that we
could direct him to

01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.929
get some of these
questions dealt with?

01:02:32.954 --> 01:02:36.190
- Dr Ellis? You can certainly
direct them to us.

01:02:36.190 --> 01:02:39.160
I believe that we've
provided those answers to

01:02:39.185 --> 01:02:41.940
the extent that we can
in writing already

01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:46.930
via email. But you can
certainly direct them

01:02:46.955 --> 01:02:51.810
to me.
- Any other questions?
Thank you, sir.

01:02:51.810 --> 01:02:58.880
Okay, members, that's all for testimony
today, and we're going to go into Committee

01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.758
of the Full Board. I
believe Mr Rowley is up.

01:03:01.783 --> 01:03:05.200
- Members, if you will take
your Committee of the Full

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:09.860
Board minutes that were
provided to you today.

01:03:09.885 --> 01:03:14.520
We'll begin on page two
of that document, it's

01:03:14.520 --> 01:03:24.001
Item three. On your Board Agenda, Page I-10.
It's recommended that the State Board

01:03:24.001 --> 01:03:26.852
of Education postpones
consideration of second

01:03:26.877 --> 01:03:29.400
reading and final adoption
of proposed

01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:34.790
amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 74,
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B,

01:03:34.790 --> 01:03:40.200
Graduation Requirements, Section
74.12, Foundation High School program,

01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:48.380
and Section 74.13, Endorsements,
until the June 2019 meeting.

01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:52.278
- So the motion before us is
to postpone consideration

01:03:52.303 --> 01:03:55.609
and second reading and
final adoption of proposed

01:03:55.609 --> 01:04:01.100
amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 74,
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B

01:04:01.100 --> 01:04:05.810
Graduation Requirement, 74.12,
Foundation High School program, and

01:04:05.810 --> 01:04:11.770
74.13, Endorsements, until
the June 2019 meeting. All

01:04:11.770 --> 01:04:17.860
those in favor say aye,
all those opposed say no.

01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.875
All right, members. Next one.

01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.381
- And this one will be a
little different. It's

01:04:42.406 --> 01:04:44.650
item four, page two of
your Committee of the

01:04:44.650 --> 01:04:47.830
Full Board. But there's
been a correction with

01:04:47.855 --> 01:04:51.280
regard to the to the motion
or the recommendation.

01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.460
So it is recommended that the State Board
of Education approve for second reading and

01:04:56.460 --> 01:05:02.880
final adoption proposed new 19 TAC Chapter
126, Texas Essential Knowledge and

01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.967
Skills for Technology
Applications, Subchapter

01:05:05.992 --> 01:05:08.920
C, High School, Section 126.51

01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:15.090
Foundations of Cybersecurity,
one credit, and Section 126.52

01:05:15.090 --> 01:05:24.640
Cybersecurity Capstone, one credit, and I
guess read the rest of that too, make an affirmative finding

01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:30.920
that immediate adoption of proposed new
19 TAC Chapter 126, Texas Essential

01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.803
Knowledge and Skills for
Technology Applications,

01:05:33.828 --> 01:05:36.340
Subchapter C, High School,
Section 126.51,

01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:42.200
Foundations of Cybersecurity,
one Credit, and Section 126.52

01:05:42.200 --> 01:05:48.260
Cybersecurity Capstone, One Credit, is
necessary and shall have an effective date

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:56.930
of August 1, 2019.
- Any discussion on that? Hearing
none, then this will be a show

01:05:56.930 --> 01:06:04.033
of hands. All those in
favor, raise your hands.

01:06:04.058 --> 01:06:10.380
All those opposed
raise your hands.

01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:17.260
Motion is adopted per a vote of two-thirds
of the members of the board that makes that

01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:20.225
August 1 date applicable.
All right, next item.

01:06:20.250 --> 01:06:23.190
Next item is on the top of
page three of your Committee

01:06:23.190 --> 01:06:26.701
of the Full Board minutes.
It's agenda item five.

01:06:26.726 --> 01:06:29.720
It's on your Board
Agenda book, page I-41.

01:06:29.720 --> 01:06:34.520
It's recommended that the State Board of
Education suspend the board operating

01:06:34.520 --> 01:06:39.880
procedures in accordance with Section
5.2A to allow consideration at first

01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.502
reading and filing
authorization and approve

01:06:42.527 --> 01:06:45.010
for first reading and
filing authorization

01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:50.941
proposed repeal and and new 19 TAC
Chapter 126, Texas Essential Knowledge

01:06:50.941 --> 01:06:57.040
and Skills for Technology Applications,
Subchapter C, High School, Section 126.36,

01:06:57.040 --> 01:07:11.620
Digital Forensics, one credit
- Any discussion on this item?
Yes, Miss Hardy?

01:07:11.620 --> 01:07:16.227
- What are we trying to do with this one?
Trying to what? Postpone it?

01:07:16.252 --> 01:07:20.500
- We substituted. On this one we're not.
- Miss Miss Hardy. This

01:07:20.500 --> 01:07:28.359
item is thie digital forensics course and
based on discussion among board members and

01:07:28.359 --> 01:07:33.990
some testimony you heard about the level
of that course, the Committee that worked

01:07:33.990 --> 01:07:36.180
on the other cybersecurity
courses, they're

01:07:36.205 --> 01:07:38.420
recommending adjustments
to digital learning

01:07:38.420 --> 01:07:41.514
so that that's an appropriate
course to include

01:07:41.539 --> 01:07:44.350
in that pathway. But
because of the the way

01:07:44.350 --> 01:07:47.233
that they restructured
the course, it is set

01:07:47.258 --> 01:07:50.180
up as will repeal the
old and replace it with

01:07:50.180 --> 01:07:54.020
the new as opposed to showing you a bunch of
underlines and strike through. That would

01:07:54.020 --> 01:07:59.280
have gotten a little bit confusing. So this
is first reading.
- Appreciate it. Thank you.

01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.525
- Yeah, that was a good course.
It was just too

01:08:02.550 --> 01:08:05.500
high level. So this
committee worked on it.

01:08:05.500 --> 01:08:11.670
Yeah, absolutely. Any other discussion on
that item? All those in favor say Aye. All

01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:16.240
those opposed say no. Ayes have it.
Motion is adopted.

01:08:16.265 --> 01:08:19.231
- Okay. Next item is Item six. Agenda

01:08:19.231 --> 01:08:24.509
item six, it's on your Board Agenda book,
page I-45. It is recommended that

01:08:24.509 --> 01:08:26.893
the State Board of Education
approve for first

01:08:26.918 --> 01:08:29.029
reading and filing authorization proposed

01:08:29.029 --> 01:08:34.409
revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 110, Texas
Essential Knowledge and Skills for English

01:08:34.409 --> 01:08:40.239
Language Arts and Reading, and 19
TAC Chapter 128 Texas Essential

01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.829
Knowledge and Skills for
Spanish Language Arts

01:08:42.854 --> 01:08:45.309
and Reading and English
As a Second language

01:08:45.309 --> 01:08:50.480
- As amended. Any discussion
on this item? All

01:08:50.505 --> 01:08:55.100
those in favor say aye.
All those opposed

01:08:55.100 --> 01:08:59.536
say nay. Ayes have it.
- Okay, The next item is

01:08:59.561 --> 01:09:04.069
item seven. It's on page
four of your minutes,

01:09:04.069 --> 01:09:09.729
and it's official agenda item number seven.
Border Agenda Page I-95. It's

01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:14.230
recommended that the State Board of Education
approved the Perkins Five Transition plan.

01:09:14.230 --> 01:09:24.849
- Any discussion on that motion? All those
in favor say aye. All those opposed say no.

01:09:24.849 --> 01:09:27.122
Ayes have it.
Motion was adopted.

01:09:27.147 --> 01:09:31.400
Okay, The last item is on the top
of page five of your minutes.

01:09:31.400 --> 01:09:35.212
It's Board Agenda, it's
official agenda Item

01:09:35.237 --> 01:09:39.109
eight. Your minutes,
Item number nine. Board

01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:44.889
Agenda Page I-150. It is recommended that
State Board of Education ratify the report

01:09:44.889 --> 01:09:50.009
of the Commissioner of Education regarding
TEKS and ELPS alignment in instructional

01:09:50.009 --> 01:09:55.719
materials submitted to the instructional
materials quality evaluation pilot.
- Any discussion

01:09:55.719 --> 01:10:04.960
on that item. Hearing none, all those in favor
say aye. All those opposed say no. Ayes

01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:10.659
have it. Motion is adopted.
- Madam Chair, that's the last of the...
- Of the Committe of the Full Board.

01:10:10.659 --> 01:10:14.774
Terrific. All right. Moving on
to the Committee on Instruction.

01:10:14.799 --> 01:10:17.731
And I Believe Miss Melton
Malone, you are up.

01:10:17.731 --> 01:10:21.664
- Thank you, Madam Chair.
In your minutes on the

01:10:21.689 --> 01:10:26.079
Committee on Instruction,
item number one on the first

01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:33.619
page. Proposed amendment to 19 TAC
Chapter 74. This is in your Board Agenda

01:10:33.619 --> 01:10:39.170
on page 2-1. On behalf of the Committee
on Instruction, I move that the State Board

01:10:39.170 --> 01:10:41.973
of Education approve for
first reading and filing

01:10:41.998 --> 01:10:44.440
authorization the
proposed amendment to

01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:50.930
19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements,
Subchapter A, Required Curriculum, 74.6

01:10:50.930 --> 01:10:57.880
College and Career Readiness,
and Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills alignment.

01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.589
- Any discussion on that item?
All those in

01:11:01.614 --> 01:11:05.550
favor say aye, all those
opposed say nay. Ayes

01:11:05.550 --> 01:11:15.829
have it. Motion's adopted. Our next item is
on page two. It's number three. On behalf

01:11:15.829 --> 01:11:17.879
of the Committee on
Instruction, I move that

01:11:17.904 --> 01:11:19.929
the State Board of
Education is to suspend the

01:11:19.929 --> 01:11:25.249
board operating procedures in accordance
with 5.2A to allow consideration at

01:11:25.249 --> 01:11:30.329
first reading and filing authorization and
approve for first reading and

01:11:30.329 --> 01:11:36.690
filing authorization the proposed
amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 111, Texas

01:11:36.690 --> 01:11:39.147
Essential Knowledge and
Skills for Mathematics,

01:11:39.172 --> 01:11:41.400
Subchapter D, other
High School mathematics
courses.

01:11:41.400 --> 01:11:53.020
- Any discussion on that item? Hearing none,
all those in favor say aye. All those

01:11:53.020 --> 01:11:56.540
opposed say nay. Ayes have it.
Motion is adopted.

01:11:56.565 --> 01:11:59.849
- Moving on to page
three in your minutes.

01:11:59.849 --> 01:12:03.062
It's item number four. On
behalf of the Committee

01:12:03.087 --> 01:12:05.890
on Instruction, I move
that the State Board

01:12:05.890 --> 01:12:10.090
of Education suspend the board operating
procedures in accordance with 5.2A

01:12:10.090 --> 01:12:15.850
to allow consideration at first reading
and filing authorization and approve for

01:12:15.850 --> 01:12:21.010
first reading and filing authorzation
proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74

01:12:21.010 --> 01:12:27.579
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B,
Graduation requirements, Section 74.11,

01:12:27.579 --> 01:12:35.360
High school graduation requirements.
- Any discussion on that item? Hearing

01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:39.418
none, then all those in favor say aye.
All those

01:12:39.443 --> 01:12:42.979
opposed say nay. The
ayes have it and that

01:12:42.979 --> 01:12:52.300
motions was adopted.
- All right, We're on item number six,
and the motion is on page four in your minutes.

01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:54.332
On behalf of the Committee
on Instruction, I

01:12:54.357 --> 01:12:56.409
move that the State
Board of Education

01:12:56.409 --> 01:13:03.530
approve Peer Assistance and Leadership,
PALs 1 and 2, and Student Leadership

01:13:03.530 --> 01:13:06.267
for a renewal period
of three years.

01:13:06.292 --> 01:13:10.780
- Any discussion on that item?
Hearing none, all those in favor

01:13:10.780 --> 01:13:15.743
say aye. All those opposed say no.
Ayes have it, and motion's adopted.

01:13:15.768 --> 01:13:17.560
The next one, right under that,

01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.378
on behalf of Committee
on Instruction, I move

01:13:20.403 --> 01:13:22.889
that the State Board
of Education approve

01:13:22.889 --> 01:13:31.239
lead worthy the course for a renewal period
of five years.
- Any discussion on that item.

01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:39.980
All those in favor say aye. All those opposed
say no. Ayes have it. Motion's adopted.

01:13:39.980 --> 01:13:47.900
Item number seven wass on the Consent
Agenda. But we decided that we would like

01:13:47.900 --> 01:13:51.201
to postpone that until the
June meeting. It's on

01:13:51.226 --> 01:13:54.300
the Think Circa, and we
need more information

01:13:54.300 --> 01:13:59.460
from them. We need to see a rubric and
some other information from them. The

01:13:59.460 --> 01:14:05.530
lady that was there was not very informative.
She didn't have very many answers for

01:14:05.530 --> 01:14:11.139
us. So on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
I move that the State Board of Education postpone

01:14:11.139 --> 01:14:18.340
the vote to approve the request from Think
Circa to update Think Circa Texas Edition

01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:24.960
Grade 6, Think Circa Texas Edition Grade
7, and Think Circa Texas Edition Grade 8.

01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:31.630
adopted in November 2018 under Proclamation 2019.
- Any discussion

01:14:31.630 --> 01:14:39.510
on that item?
-  Madam Chair? Postpone to a time certain? To June?
- Yeah, until the June meeting.

01:14:39.510 --> 01:14:45.719
- Yes, go ahead, Ms Melton Malone.
- We were a little bit concerned with
some of the selections

01:14:45.719 --> 01:14:49.151
that they were putting
into their curriculum.

01:14:49.176 --> 01:14:52.360
They were very derogatory
toward girls and

01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:56.950
so we think perhaps, maybe
it'd be a good idea if we

01:14:56.975 --> 01:15:02.050
looked at more of it before
we okayed everything.

01:15:02.050 --> 01:15:09.150
So we're asking to postpone till June.
- Any other discussion? All those in favor

01:15:09.150 --> 01:15:18.610
of postponement say aye. All those opposed
say no. Hearing no opposition, that motion
is adopted.

01:15:18.610 --> 01:15:25.699
And our next one was also on the Consent
Agenda. But we want to, want it

01:15:25.699 --> 01:15:28.369
removed. We had it removed
from Consent Agenda

01:15:28.394 --> 01:15:30.869
for further consideration
by the Full Board.

01:15:30.869 --> 01:15:33.233
On behalf of the Committee
on Instruction, I

01:15:33.258 --> 01:15:35.650
move that the State Board
of Education ratify

01:15:35.650 --> 01:15:43.849
the second set of TXLS Resources as
presented in Attachment A.This is just

01:15:43.849 --> 01:15:51.229
the next set of lesson plans that go with
the Texas Lesson study. And but there

01:15:51.229 --> 01:15:53.868
were some concerns that
we had about the program

01:15:53.893 --> 01:15:56.130
that we want some more
information on and

01:15:56.130 --> 01:15:59.858
Blair's here, I think, if
you need any questions

01:15:59.883 --> 01:16:03.130
answered, but she's
going to be getting us

01:16:03.130 --> 01:16:07.380
some more information. But we did want to
pull it off the Consent Agenda in case

01:16:07.380 --> 01:16:15.329
you all needed to discuss anything.
- Yes, Miss Hardy, then Miss Litte.
- I have a simple question.

01:16:15.329 --> 01:16:18.480
How do we access
Texas Lesson Study.

01:16:18.505 --> 01:16:23.420
- It's on the Texas Gateway, Miss Hardy.
We can certainly

01:16:23.420 --> 01:16:26.456
send, so there was some
information that was

01:16:26.481 --> 01:16:29.289
sent to board members,
I think back end of

01:16:29.289 --> 01:16:35.133
2018. We can send that information
back out to everyone.

01:16:35.158 --> 01:16:37.389
- That would be good.
- Miss Little?
- Well, I had

01:16:37.389 --> 01:16:42.210
the same concern. I didn't feel like I could
support it because I hadn't looked at it.

01:16:42.210 --> 01:16:47.960
And if I can have the link or whatever to
look at that, that may alleviate my

01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:50.878
concern. Also, in looking
at these, I want to

01:16:50.903 --> 01:16:53.860
be sure that these lessons
have the, especially

01:16:53.860 --> 01:16:59.139
the Language Arts ones, have the pedagogy
and the research based reading instruction

01:16:59.139 --> 01:17:04.620
that matches with our TEKS. What I've heard
so much is that teachers are doing artsy

01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:11.260
craftsy lessons and not really tying in with
our TEKS or the research. And I would just

01:17:11.260 --> 01:17:15.260
like to be able to look at these to verify
that that's not the case with these.

01:17:15.260 --> 01:17:23.269
That they're good, solid lesson plans.
- Yes, Miss Perz?
- Part of our discussion yesterday included

01:17:23.269 --> 01:17:29.239
not only the cost of this special project,
which right now I believe, is eight million

01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.520
dollars. But we also talked about how many
special projects are going on at the agency

01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.870
right now, and we believe
they're about eighty five

01:17:35.895 --> 01:17:38.070
And so, while we're talking about the

01:17:38.070 --> 01:17:40.032
cost of each one of
these things, and while

01:17:40.057 --> 01:17:42.039
they may sound great,
we don't actually know

01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:44.795
that they're great. What we
know is the presentation

01:17:44.820 --> 01:17:47.239
that we receive in. Of
course, when the agency

01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:52.249
presents their own information, it sounds
fantastic. So what I would like to see is

01:17:52.249 --> 01:17:54.718
a list of all of these
special projects and

01:17:54.743 --> 01:17:57.130
the cost each one, so
we can evaluate prior

01:17:57.130 --> 01:18:01.019
to ratification of each of these projects,
that they are actually good and that they're

01:18:01.019 --> 01:18:04.869
worth the amount of money we're spending.
It sounds like each project is between eight

01:18:04.869 --> 01:18:09.329
to ten million dollars. You multiply that
times eighty five. We're looking at a billion

01:18:09.329 --> 01:18:11.479
dollars going to special
projects and not to

01:18:11.504 --> 01:18:13.820
classrooms. And so I'd
like to see an evaluation

01:18:13.820 --> 01:18:24.030
of all of that material.
- Mr. Rowley?
I'll speak to the issue that's before

01:18:24.030 --> 01:18:28.048
the board, which is these
lesson plans and the

01:18:28.073 --> 01:18:31.639
processes that went
through, that has been

01:18:31.639 --> 01:18:34.526
gone through to arrive
at them, and hopefully

01:18:34.551 --> 01:18:37.220
Blair can speak to that
as well, certainly

01:18:37.220 --> 01:18:44.830
more eloquently than I can. But I was very
impressed by the level of participation on

01:18:44.830 --> 01:18:48.130
the part of teachers and
experts, the observation

01:18:48.155 --> 01:18:51.100
that takes place with
regard to these lesson

01:18:51.100 --> 01:18:55.438
plans and the means by
which they're implemented.

01:18:55.463 --> 01:18:59.429
I mean, this is to
borrow a a more infamous

01:18:59.429 --> 01:19:06.929
situation, C-scope on steroids. But it
is in a transparent, open environment.

01:19:06.929 --> 01:19:16.420
It's peer reviewed. The observation of the
teacher's teaching tt is videotaped. There

01:19:16.420 --> 01:19:19.554
is a a rubric by which
they're being checked

01:19:19.579 --> 01:19:22.619
to make sure that all
of the components are

01:19:22.619 --> 01:19:25.719
necessary for these to
be quality lesson plans.

01:19:25.744 --> 01:19:28.690
And so I voted in favor of it.
And I feel like

01:19:28.690 --> 01:19:31.543
that whether how much
money's been spent, it's

01:19:31.568 --> 01:19:34.639
already been spent. The
problem is, if we deny, if

01:19:34.639 --> 01:19:37.285
we vote against this
motion today, what happens

01:19:37.310 --> 01:19:39.710
is they have to pull
all those lesson plans

01:19:39.710 --> 01:19:42.052
down, and the teachers
will not be able to

01:19:42.077 --> 01:19:44.449
use them between now and
the end of the year

01:19:44.449 --> 01:19:47.128
and the time and during
which the instruction

01:19:47.153 --> 01:19:49.690
is taking place. And
so I voted in favor of

01:19:49.690 --> 01:19:53.630
it. Granted, I don't know where the money
is well spent or not. That's really not

01:19:53.630 --> 01:19:59.010
my call because its agency funds, not
ours. And so I felt like that we should go

01:19:59.010 --> 01:20:00.686
ahead and allow these
teachers to make the

01:20:00.711 --> 01:20:02.400
determination as to
whether or not they want

01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:04.473
to use these lesson plans.
They can if they

01:20:04.498 --> 01:20:06.499
want to. They don't have
to if they don't want

01:20:06.499 --> 01:20:09.031
to, but it's certainly a
resource that's available

01:20:09.056 --> 01:20:11.309
to them, and I wasn't
ready to pull them down

01:20:11.309 --> 01:20:16.969
off of the Texas Gateway on the basis of maybe
too much money was spent. So that's why

01:20:16.969 --> 01:20:25.960
- Blair just handed you a rubric.
This is the rubric that they use.

01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:29.600
So if you have any
questions about what they

01:20:29.625 --> 01:20:33.239
evaluate the teacher
presenters on, you have

01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:36.107
in your hands the rubric
that will answer some

01:20:36.132 --> 01:20:38.670
of those questions hopefully.
And I agree

01:20:38.670 --> 01:20:46.820
with my colleague from Amarillo, this program
is already up and running. Basically

01:20:46.820 --> 01:20:49.625
what we needed to approve
was just the new set

01:20:49.650 --> 01:20:52.430
of lesson plans. It's not
that we're approving

01:20:52.429 --> 01:20:59.050
the program. We're just approving the new
set of lesson plans, and they are in your

01:20:59.050 --> 01:21:05.170
minutes packet from today. If you want to
look at the new ones, that'll give you kind

01:21:05.170 --> 01:21:09.840
of an idea of some of
the things that they're

01:21:09.865 --> 01:21:14.510
working on right now.
- Madam Chair, if I could

01:21:14.510 --> 01:21:21.670
add that the board did approve, has already
ratified a set of lessons. So this is the

01:21:21.670 --> 01:21:24.050
second time that this
information would come

01:21:24.075 --> 01:21:26.429
to the board. And it's
my understanding that

01:21:26.429 --> 01:21:29.510
it's the Commissioner's
intent that they continue

01:21:29.535 --> 01:21:32.159
to come to the board.
We're thinking it'll

01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.467
probably be at least
twice a year.

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.127
I would also just, for my
purposes, like to get a

01:21:44.219 --> 01:21:47.817
list, the one Georgina
was referring to. If

01:21:47.842 --> 01:21:51.579
he's got other projects
in the pipeline, they

01:21:51.579 --> 01:21:54.315
can email us a list of
what what they consist

01:21:54.340 --> 01:21:56.940
of. I'd like to know. She
mentioned the number

01:21:56.940 --> 01:22:01.910
of eighty five potential special projects
in the pipeline. I'd like to know what they

01:22:01.910 --> 01:22:08.139
are if possible
- So we're certainly happy to get
that information for you. I believe what's

01:22:08.139 --> 01:22:11.959
being referred to you are
Commissioner's Iinitiatives

01:22:11.984 --> 01:22:14.930
that I believe, most
of which, would not

01:22:14.930 --> 01:22:18.146
have a connection to the
State Board's authority.

01:22:18.171 --> 01:22:21.170
Anything that does have
a connection, I think,

01:22:21.170 --> 01:22:27.040
the Commissioner has made every effort to
ensure that you are not only informed, but

01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:29.744
that you have an
opportunity to be involved

01:22:29.769 --> 01:22:32.510
in those processes. And
that's the case with

01:22:32.510 --> 01:22:35.604
these lessons. This
is a project that was

01:22:35.629 --> 01:22:39.139
authorized through a
rider by the Legislature.

01:22:39.139 --> 01:22:43.510
The Commissioner felt that it was important
that this information come before you, even

01:22:43.510 --> 01:22:46.240
though it's under his
authority and not yours.

01:22:46.265 --> 01:22:49.030
That's why you're
seeing some of this.

01:22:49.030 --> 01:22:52.288
Much of the rest of that
list, I believe, would

01:22:52.313 --> 01:22:55.070
not be related to the
board's authority.

01:22:55.070 --> 01:22:59.287
But I'm happy to get what information
exists and pass that on.

01:22:59.312 --> 01:23:00.760
- Thank you, Monica.

01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.739
Again, I just ask because I know yesterday
we had, yesterday or day before yesterday,

01:23:05.739 --> 01:23:10.360
we had the conversation and some of these
monies were coming out of IMA. So if I know

01:23:10.360 --> 01:23:15.820
where some of these, I know it's not this
one, I know it's not this one. But if there

01:23:15.820 --> 01:23:18.943
is eighty five others...
- There are not any others

01:23:18.968 --> 01:23:21.740
that are coming out of the IMA.
Other than what

01:23:21.740 --> 01:23:27.469
you heard about the other day.
- Okay, but you'll provide us a list...
- I will ask for

01:23:27.469 --> 01:23:30.913
a list. I am not the
owner of that list. And

01:23:30.938 --> 01:23:34.280
so I will ask for that
information and make

01:23:34.280 --> 01:23:39.449
sure somebody gets set to you.
- Madam Chair, will you let them
know that we're interested

01:23:39.449 --> 01:23:47.670
in that list? Well, she's not the owner, so
I'm directing my question now to you.

01:23:47.670 --> 01:23:51.558
These things come a lot
quicker if Madam Chair asks.

01:23:51.583 --> 01:23:54.199
- Mr Cortez, I will
pass your request

01:23:54.199 --> 01:24:00.010
along. I certainly hope that by saying, I'm
not the owner, I was implying that we would

01:24:00.010 --> 01:24:04.749
not get you the information. I just wanted
to make sure that you knew that I don't have

01:24:04.749 --> 01:24:08.603
it in my possession, so I will
have to make that request.

01:24:08.628 --> 01:24:10.929
- And members I just
wanna remind

01:24:10.929 --> 01:24:14.039
us that our Texas Long
Range Plan for Public

01:24:14.064 --> 01:24:17.219
Education. That is one
of the recommendations

01:24:17.219 --> 01:24:22.530
that we had that the Commissioner continued
to, the state be able to provide resource

01:24:22.530 --> 01:24:25.586
that are free or very
low cost for educators.

01:24:25.611 --> 01:24:28.510
Because, as you know,
we have so many rural

01:24:28.510 --> 01:24:32.126
districts. And those rural
districts, you know,

01:24:32.151 --> 01:24:35.139
a lot of those have a
teacher who is the

01:24:35.139 --> 01:24:38.269
English department. And
for that person to try

01:24:38.294 --> 01:24:41.199
to develop all the
lesson plans and studies

01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:46.550
that they would like to be able to do for
the various grades and that they might be

01:24:46.550 --> 01:24:48.855
teaching is a pretty,
pretty tough call.

01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.610
And so the fact that the
Commissioner is working

01:24:51.610 --> 01:24:59.030
super hard, I think, on providing free and
low cost resource, is something that is

01:24:59.030 --> 01:25:01.274
in alignment with long
range plan for public

01:25:01.299 --> 01:25:03.469
education. So this is
one of those resources

01:25:03.469 --> 01:25:08.110
and I just want to correct something, just
less there's a misunderstanding. This is

01:25:08.110 --> 01:25:15.449
nothing like C-Scope.
- I just meant it's the mechanism
by which teachers can

01:25:15.449 --> 01:25:23.760
access lesson plans. That's the point. And
done so in a transparent and quality way.

01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:32.840
- Yeah, yeah. This is this is nothing at all.
This whole...
(off-mic crosstalk)

01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:37.245
Yeah. Anyway, this is again,
the agency's attempt

01:25:37.270 --> 01:25:41.380
to, the Commissioner's attempt
to try to provide quality

01:25:41.380 --> 01:25:44.208
resources for teachers that
they don't have to pay to get.

01:25:44.233 --> 01:25:46.989
Any other questions or comments?
Yes, Miss Melton-Malone?

01:25:46.989 --> 01:25:53.030
- I was just going to comment that,
if when I was teaching, if this had

01:25:53.030 --> 01:26:00.389
been available, I would have loved to have
this to help me get things pull together.

01:26:00.389 --> 01:26:03.364
So I think it's very great.
I really do. I have

01:26:03.389 --> 01:26:06.030
seen some of the lessons,
and I think it's

01:26:06.030 --> 01:26:17.025
going to be a very, very beneficial
thing to classroom teachers.
(microphone cuts off)

01:26:17.050 --> 01:26:20.690
All those in favor

01:26:20.690 --> 01:26:24.806
of ratifying the second
set of Texas Lesson

01:26:24.831 --> 01:26:29.110
Study Resources as
presented in Attachment A.

01:26:29.110 --> 01:26:38.579
Okay, all those in favor say aye, all those
opposed say no. The motion is adopted.

01:26:38.579 --> 01:26:42.630
Madam Chair, that's the end of the Committee
on Instruction minutes. Thank you.

01:26:42.655 --> 01:26:43.980
Absolutely.

01:26:43.980 --> 01:26:49.659
And we had no items, all the items on the
Permanent School Fund Committee were moved

01:26:49.659 --> 01:26:54.020
to Consent Calander. But
I wanted Mr Maynard

01:26:54.045 --> 01:26:58.381
to bring up that one you
wanted to highlight for us.

01:26:58.380 --> 01:27:04.699
Well, actually, there's just a few
quick ones I wanted to kind of

01:27:04.699 --> 01:27:09.335
run through. If it's okay,
and right, everything

01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:13.119
was on the on the Consent Agenda.
Board

01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:22.610
Members, we did the emerging market
debt class, and what that is,

01:27:22.610 --> 01:27:25.719
is that that particular
asset class is, are

01:27:25.744 --> 01:27:28.969
essentially bonds issued
by other governments

01:27:28.969 --> 01:27:32.768
other than our own. We
did terminate one of

01:27:32.793 --> 01:27:36.480
our former managers.
If we do have managers

01:27:36.480 --> 01:27:42.329
who are underperforming, we do we do
terminate their contracts, and we

01:27:42.329 --> 01:27:44.769
did that in that particular
asset area. We had

01:27:44.794 --> 01:27:46.949
three managers, and
we're going to reduce

01:27:46.949 --> 01:27:53.929
that to two. The other thing that that
could do for us is that, when we reallocate

01:27:53.929 --> 01:27:58.309
those investments in those other two, that
could possibly give us additional leverage

01:27:58.309 --> 01:28:03.530
in terms of negotiating lower fees. And I
know that we've heard lots of things about

01:28:03.530 --> 01:28:06.300
fee, about fee structures and such.
Secondly,

01:28:06.325 --> 01:28:09.070
is, is that you noticed
on the Consent Agenda

01:28:09.070 --> 01:28:12.095
that there was a notation
in there about the

01:28:12.120 --> 01:28:15.119
real estate policy. As
we begin to diversify

01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:23.570
the portfolio. When we added a real estate,
the board had made it a practice and policy

01:28:23.570 --> 01:28:26.364
that, every time that a
real estate investment

01:28:26.389 --> 01:28:28.920
was made, that they
would come back before

01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:34.730
the committee. That was not consistent with
any other asset classes. For instance, you

01:28:34.730 --> 01:28:41.880
know we don't approve every equity purchase.
We don't approve every bond purchase, but

01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:46.719
we had been doing that with real estate.
And there were several reasons for that.

01:28:46.719 --> 01:28:49.273
The problem is is that
that how that was being

01:28:49.298 --> 01:28:51.719
done was actually an
impediment to the staff

01:28:51.719 --> 01:28:54.117
in terms of timing, you
know, sometimes is

01:28:54.142 --> 01:28:56.739
that, when these these
funds become available,

01:28:56.739 --> 01:29:02.100
that they actually have a fairly tight window
in terms of being able to do that. And so

01:29:02.100 --> 01:29:07.480
we did amend that to essentially delegate
that to the staff with them reporting back,

01:29:07.480 --> 01:29:12.809
which actually makes that more consistent
with the other asset classes. We had

01:29:12.809 --> 01:29:19.340
a big discussion about risk parity and risk
parity is one of those asset classes that

01:29:19.340 --> 01:29:24.320
when you look at it, it doesn't look very
exciting, particularly when we've been in

01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:26.741
the midst of a ten year bull market.
Understand

01:29:26.766 --> 01:29:29.010
that risk parity is
actually not really

01:29:29.010 --> 01:29:34.970
an asset class. It's really a strategy. And
it is essentially another portfolio with a

01:29:34.970 --> 01:29:38.330
mix of of equities and
bonds and commodities

01:29:38.355 --> 01:29:41.690
and other things.
We did have a, we had

01:29:41.690 --> 01:29:48.749
a couple of our managers appear before the
committee. When you when you look at that

01:29:48.749 --> 01:29:51.693
in terms of, since
inception, we're not losing

01:29:51.718 --> 01:29:54.449
money on that unless
you want to talk about

01:29:54.449 --> 01:30:00.079
opportunity cost. Now, the thing about that
is understand that those assets they they

01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.383
perform differently,
generally, in a correction

01:30:03.408 --> 01:30:06.550
or a downturn. That's
why we have them. Those

01:30:06.550 --> 01:30:12.760
are defensive strategies, but the other,
the other conversation is possibly that we

01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:21.239
could perhaps manage that in house, is
that, in essence, that all of those

01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:23.993
assets that are being
managed by those managers

01:30:24.018 --> 01:30:26.690
could possibly be done in house.
And so that's

01:30:26.690 --> 01:30:29.478
a discussion that we're
gonna have in June. The

01:30:29.503 --> 01:30:32.150
state auditor did appear
before the committee

01:30:32.150 --> 01:30:35.402
and gave his report on the
Permanent School Fund.

01:30:35.427 --> 01:30:38.199
I'm proud to say, had
any clean audit. And

01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:49.110
so those are just a few of the items from
our committee. Anything else?

01:30:49.110 --> 01:30:53.704
- Question for Mr Maynard. Do you
think that going forward

01:30:53.729 --> 01:30:57.641
is there a way that
we could, and we want

01:30:57.641 --> 01:31:03.989
to do this responsibly, of course,
increase the distributions from the

01:31:03.989 --> 01:31:07.059
PSF to the IMA?

01:31:07.084 --> 01:31:16.269
- So that's a, well, I think, I think that
is the question. You know, certainly

01:31:16.269 --> 01:31:21.068
that's in terms, I think
our real challenge,

01:31:21.093 --> 01:31:25.761
Mr. Robinson, is that,
is howto had to grow

01:31:25.761 --> 01:31:30.271
the fund. If you increase
distributions today

01:31:30.296 --> 01:31:34.780
that you potentially
compromise distributions

01:31:34.780 --> 01:31:41.250
in the future, so you know that is always
the challenge for any sort of endowment. Is

01:31:41.250 --> 01:31:47.250
that okay? You know, how do you balance the
needs of today with needs of tomorrow? And

01:31:47.250 --> 01:31:52.460
so you have to make distributions today while
at the same time growing the fund. And in

01:31:52.460 --> 01:31:54.285
the course of doing
that, we also not only

01:31:54.310 --> 01:31:56.280
have to grow the fund,
we also have to protect

01:31:56.280 --> 01:32:02.590
the fund against erosion for an inevitable
market downturn, which, you know, we haven't

01:32:02.590 --> 01:32:06.880
had one in the last ten years. But if you
look at the previous ten years, we had to

01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:14.210
really big ones. That significantly eroded
the value of not only our fund, but

01:32:14.210 --> 01:32:17.908
a lot of other ones.
And so, you know, when

01:32:17.933 --> 01:32:21.690
you look at things like

01:32:21.690 --> 01:32:28.449
fixed income, bonds, we look at things like
hedge funds, risk parity and some of those

01:32:28.449 --> 01:32:32.873
things. Everybody has
those in their portfolio.

01:32:32.898 --> 01:32:36.929
The PUFF has that in the portfolio.
TRS has those, ERS,

01:32:36.929 --> 01:32:42.369
they all have those things and you
have to do this just all

01:32:42.369 --> 01:32:45.093
part of the mix and
part of the strategy.

01:32:45.118 --> 01:32:48.400
I think that we'd get a lot
of pressure sometimes.

01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:52.820
When people look at that and say,
well, you know, when you compare that to a

01:32:52.820 --> 01:32:55.265
standard sixty-forty
portfolio, they're really

01:32:55.290 --> 01:32:57.710
underperforming, yeah,
But one of these days

01:32:57.709 --> 01:33:02.380
you're going to be really glad that you had
that there. So that's a long way of saying

01:33:02.380 --> 01:33:12.559
well, you know, maybe, but I think that,
you know, I always kind of go back to some

01:33:12.559 --> 01:33:14.849
of the history. And I
know people kind of get

01:33:14.874 --> 01:33:16.989
weary of me kind of
talking about history.

01:33:16.989 --> 01:33:20.378
But I think it's important
because it provides

01:33:20.403 --> 01:33:23.840
some some context. And I
would remind everybody

01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:28.830
that you know that there were fifty states
in the United States that had a school and

01:33:28.830 --> 01:33:36.489
fund, had a school and trust. You know,
many school and trust exist today? Twenty.

01:33:36.489 --> 01:33:40.780
There's a lesson in that. And that
is, is that the appropriators could

01:33:40.780 --> 01:33:44.243
never be in charge of
the trust fund because

01:33:44.268 --> 01:33:47.860
appropriators are driven
by the immediate.

01:33:47.860 --> 01:33:51.075
They are concerned about
meeting the current

01:33:51.100 --> 01:33:54.290
budget need in the current
budget cycle, and

01:33:54.290 --> 01:33:57.873
as a result of that,
thirty of the fifty have

01:33:57.898 --> 01:34:01.690
been squandered over time.
And so there's always

01:34:01.690 --> 01:34:05.112
going to be pressure on
these funds to cough up

01:34:05.137 --> 01:34:08.320
more money because that's
what appropriators

01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:12.615
do. They're trying to
meet a budget today.

01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:17.209
But sometimes when you
do that, you sacrifice

01:34:17.209 --> 01:34:19.890
things in the future,
and you know you twenty

01:34:19.915 --> 01:34:22.570
years from now it's like,
why did we let that

01:34:22.570 --> 01:34:24.829
happen? Well, because
because the appropriators

01:34:24.854 --> 01:34:26.900
at the time put pressure
on the fund because

01:34:26.900 --> 01:34:30.379
they wanted to meet the
immediate needs. And

01:34:30.404 --> 01:34:33.780
so it's not an easy question.
And sometimes

01:34:33.780 --> 01:34:37.036
the answers that we have
are not very satisfying

01:34:37.061 --> 01:34:40.159
to those in the governor's
office and those in

01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:44.016
the Legislature. But those
are very old questions

01:34:44.041 --> 01:34:47.719
related to the to the
management of endowments.

01:34:47.719 --> 01:34:50.052
Yes, Doctor Robinson.

01:34:50.077 --> 01:34:57.050
- And can you speak to the point? You know
more about this than I do, about the extent

01:34:57.050 --> 01:35:00.690
to which the PSF is the
backing for ISD bonds

01:35:00.715 --> 01:35:04.330
and charter and how that
affects the interest rates

01:35:04.329 --> 01:35:10.829
- Absolutely. And of course, the
question is is that, well, you know, one

01:35:10.829 --> 01:35:13.728
of things we do have to
have in the portfolio is

01:35:13.753 --> 01:35:16.449
we have to have a certain
amount of liquidity

01:35:16.449 --> 01:35:20.055
as relates to our bond rating.
You know what

01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:23.420
is that exactly? Well,
it's hard to really

01:35:23.420 --> 01:35:27.024
pin down, but certainly
the rating agencies like

01:35:27.049 --> 01:35:30.260
Moody's, you know, look
at that, but one of

01:35:30.260 --> 01:35:33.625
the things we have to do
we have to balance the

01:35:33.650 --> 01:35:36.780
portfolio to to meet our
bond rating because

01:35:36.780 --> 01:35:42.249
our bond rating enables us to guarantee the
bonds of local school districts and charter

01:35:42.249 --> 01:35:45.960
schools. Currently, we
are the guarantee on

01:35:45.985 --> 01:35:49.671
about eighty billion
dollars worth of ISD

01:35:49.670 --> 01:35:52.658
and charter school bonds.
We have the capacity

01:35:52.683 --> 01:35:55.519
to do one hundred seventeen
billion by IRS

01:35:55.519 --> 01:36:01.619
rules. So I think we still have have some
capacity, but that, you know, that is one

01:36:01.619 --> 01:36:08.349
of those things is hard to, you talk about
distributions, what is hard to quantify is

01:36:08.349 --> 01:36:11.828
are savings. But if we
save school districts

01:36:11.853 --> 01:36:15.539
money, it's like giving
'em money, kind of. And

01:36:15.539 --> 01:36:19.570
and what that does is that, you know, we're
saving school districts about two hundred

01:36:19.570 --> 01:36:26.189
million dollars a year in interest costs,
which enables them to put that money into

01:36:26.189 --> 01:36:30.483
the project rather than
paying off the financiers.

01:36:30.508 --> 01:36:34.020
It's my understanding
that there are some

01:36:34.020 --> 01:36:37.479
people in state government
that think that

01:36:37.504 --> 01:36:41.179
perhaps that that's
making building too easy,

01:36:41.179 --> 01:36:43.161
and I understand that
in terms of bonds and

01:36:43.186 --> 01:36:45.189
things like that, there
are a few bad actors

01:36:45.189 --> 01:36:47.370
out there. We read about
them in the newspaper

01:36:47.395 --> 01:36:49.690
that, by and large, that
I think school districts

01:36:49.690 --> 01:36:53.370
are being very responsible,
particularly rural

01:36:53.395 --> 01:36:56.659
school districts. And
I deeply resent the

01:36:56.659 --> 01:37:00.414
notion in the statements
made by certain individuals

01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:03.460
up the street, that
the bond guarantee

01:37:03.460 --> 01:37:06.160
program has has made our
school district irresponsible.

01:37:06.185 --> 01:37:08.610
I don't think that's
the case at all.

01:37:09.485 --> 01:37:11.485
- Mr. Mercer?

01:37:12.610 --> 01:37:14.917
It's a quick tie on. Mr
Maynard, great comments.

01:37:14.942 --> 01:37:17.459
Thank you so much. At the
time, the word appropriate,

01:37:17.459 --> 01:37:20.516
and you mentioned,
precisely, the thirty states

01:37:20.541 --> 01:37:23.190
the appropriators who are
more of a short term

01:37:23.190 --> 01:37:25.345
focus. Instead of, we are
in a generational long

01:37:25.370 --> 01:37:27.369
term focus, how they,
think you used the word

01:37:27.369 --> 01:37:32.530
a lot, squandered the funds, which means
now they had no funds for their children.

01:37:32.530 --> 01:37:35.025
They chose money. I
remember that word because

01:37:35.050 --> 01:37:37.360
we've often times
bemoaned or lamented with

01:37:37.360 --> 01:37:39.205
across the street's
saying, You don't give us

01:37:39.230 --> 01:37:40.969
credit, The State Board
of Education. In my

01:37:40.969 --> 01:37:44.249
time, we've given already
twelve billion dollars

01:37:44.274 --> 01:37:47.329
of tax free money for
education tools for our

01:37:47.329 --> 01:37:51.479
kids. Mr. Maynard knows that. And when I
asked them, why you don't you ever give us

01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:53.626
credit. And Mr Maynard,
you're gonna like this.

01:37:53.651 --> 01:37:55.639
They say, Well, yeah,
but we're the ones who

01:37:55.639 --> 01:38:01.822
appropriate the money. How about that.
The appropriators.

01:38:01.847 --> 01:38:05.340
Have a good day, sir. Thank you.

01:38:05.340 --> 01:38:09.277
- And just for, to be clear, I
mean, I think it's always

01:38:09.302 --> 01:38:13.070
incumbent upon us as the
board being the fiduciaries

01:38:13.070 --> 01:38:15.814
of the fund, on the
investment side, the major

01:38:15.839 --> 01:38:18.499
investment side, to
always look at, you know,

01:38:18.499 --> 01:38:21.729
how are we distributing
and are we looking at

01:38:21.754 --> 01:38:24.889
all of the things that
we need to be looking

01:38:24.889 --> 01:38:28.512
at and maybe improving
our processes, etcetera,

01:38:28.537 --> 01:38:31.909
that I think are pretty,
have a lot of value

01:38:31.909 --> 01:38:35.113
to them. So one of the
things that's been

01:38:35.138 --> 01:38:38.699
identified is, as an
example, that our student

01:38:38.699 --> 01:38:45.679
growth, while it's been pretty phenomenal
for many years now, the rate of the growth

01:38:45.679 --> 01:38:53.150
increase has sloped down now for a few
years. So there may be an opportunity for

01:38:53.150 --> 01:38:56.355
us to release more funds
for today's children,

01:38:56.380 --> 01:38:59.219
as an example, and
still keep through the

01:38:59.219 --> 01:39:02.686
value of providing the
same value today and

01:39:02.711 --> 01:39:06.389
tomorrow. By looking at
that additional factor

01:39:06.389 --> 01:39:09.772
of slowing growth rate
as to how that impacts.

01:39:09.797 --> 01:39:12.939
And so I think, you
know, looking at levers

01:39:12.939 --> 01:39:16.751
like that that we can
pull because this is all

01:39:16.776 --> 01:39:20.320
about making sure we
are not disadvantaging

01:39:20.320 --> 01:39:23.129
any children, whether
today or tomorrow. And

01:39:23.154 --> 01:39:26.000
so I think for us to
kind of continually look

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.242
at our practice about the
way that we we figure

01:39:29.267 --> 01:39:32.079
these things, I think
is always something

01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:34.486
that the board is up for
and would would want

01:39:34.511 --> 01:39:36.789
to do. So that is
something that we will be

01:39:36.789 --> 01:39:41.844
looking at. I think going
forward that factoring
in that growth slowdown.

01:39:41.869 --> 01:39:46.280
Yes, Miss Hardy.

01:39:46.280 --> 01:39:54.159
- This might be echoing Mrs Miller, but one
of the things that we've stressed, and she

01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:59.939
was the Chairman when I came on in 2002,
and that is that we want as much money

01:39:59.939 --> 01:40:04.836
as possible to get into
the schools from the from

01:40:04.861 --> 01:40:09.439
the allotment. And so
whatever that percentage

01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:12.221
is, we've always gone to
the furthest extent to

01:40:12.246 --> 01:40:14.829
make sure that it would
give the most amount

01:40:14.829 --> 01:40:16.561
of money. That would
be, that would be my

01:40:16.586 --> 01:40:18.540
desire and, I think, the
desire of everybody on

01:40:18.540 --> 01:40:22.408
this board to do that.
But it's been what we

01:40:22.433 --> 01:40:26.190
worked on from from the
time I've been here.

01:40:26.190 --> 01:40:32.630
- I think also it's it's very important to
recognize that over the last decade what

01:40:32.630 --> 01:40:35.770
we have distributed,
we've distributed about,

01:40:35.795 --> 01:40:38.980
from the Permanent School
Fund that the board

01:40:38.980 --> 01:40:42.444
manages, about three
point...was it seven nine?

01:40:42.469 --> 01:40:45.619
Did they tell us the
other day in Holland's

01:40:45.619 --> 01:40:51.060
office? Three point seven nine percent, just
from the SBOE portion over the last ten

01:40:51.060 --> 01:40:59.989
years, and the earnings off of the fund have
been, like, six point seven seven percent.

01:40:59.989 --> 01:41:02.260
You know, I sent you all
a notice about what

01:41:02.285 --> 01:41:04.380
we've done over the last decade.
Depending

01:41:04.380 --> 01:41:08.300
on when you're looking at a June statement
or if you're looking in August statement,

01:41:08.300 --> 01:41:10.594
I mean varies depending
on when your your fiscal,

01:41:10.619 --> 01:41:12.659
when your year ends,
or when you're looking

01:41:12.659 --> 01:41:16.097
at it over ten years.
But in that general

01:41:16.122 --> 01:41:19.780
range. And so what we've
distributed has been

01:41:19.780 --> 01:41:23.545
everything that we've
sent over minus needing

01:41:23.570 --> 01:41:26.989
the fund to continue to grow to

01:41:26.989 --> 01:41:30.050
provide the same value of
assets by inflation and

01:41:30.075 --> 01:41:32.989
student population growth.
So we've distributed

01:41:32.989 --> 01:41:35.877
everything else. So for
averages, three point

01:41:35.902 --> 01:41:38.639
seven seven percent,
and the fund has grown

01:41:38.639 --> 01:41:42.677
six point, um, four four.
So I don't remember

01:41:42.702 --> 01:41:46.540
exactly what the number
is now, off the top

01:41:46.540 --> 01:41:49.569
of my head, but we've
distributed what we have

01:41:49.594 --> 01:41:52.469
been able to do minus
the student population

01:41:52.469 --> 01:41:57.863
growth and the inflation rate.
- Madam Chair?
- Yes, Mr. Maynard.

01:41:57.888 --> 01:42:02.670
I may, just to, just as a follow up.
And I

01:42:02.670 --> 01:42:05.333
would just echo what, uh,
member Hardy mentioned

01:42:05.358 --> 01:42:07.561
is that, you know, we
are the State Board

01:42:07.561 --> 01:42:11.035
of Education, and our
sole focus is education.

01:42:11.060 --> 01:42:14.139
Which, by the way, is
the reason that the

01:42:14.139 --> 01:42:16.722
framers of the current
constitution placed the

01:42:16.747 --> 01:42:19.360
fund in the care of the
State Board of Education.

01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:23.019
The State Board of Education in 1876
was markedly different than what it is

01:42:23.019 --> 01:42:25.802
today. But at the end of
the day, it says that

01:42:25.827 --> 01:42:28.349
this is not about, you
know, nothing about

01:42:28.349 --> 01:42:34.110
turf or egos or our future political
ambitions. The only thing that we want to

01:42:34.110 --> 01:42:39.360
do is we want to grow the fund. But we also
want to distribute as much money as we

01:42:39.360 --> 01:42:42.345
possibly can without
compromising future earnings

01:42:42.370 --> 01:42:45.150
and future distributions.
And that's are, that's

01:42:45.150 --> 01:42:50.579
what we want to do. If we can find a
way, if we can find a way to do that

01:42:50.579 --> 01:42:53.916
that is prudent, that we
think that could make

01:42:53.941 --> 01:42:57.040
work, we will do that.
We will certainly do

01:42:57.040 --> 01:42:59.777
that. And if there's a
wrinkle that we haven't

01:42:59.802 --> 01:43:02.340
considered, and we will
consider it, and if

01:43:02.340 --> 01:43:07.724
there's a way to do it, we will.

01:43:07.749 --> 01:43:12.989
- Any other comments or questions
about that? All right?

01:43:12.989 --> 01:43:15.087
And I believe the Committee
on School Initiatives

01:43:15.112 --> 01:43:16.849
didn't have anything either for us.
But I

01:43:16.849 --> 01:43:21.659
think you have some updates.
- Yeah, no, we don't. But I do,
or we don't have an action

01:43:21.659 --> 01:43:23.712
item. But I would like
to point out that the

01:43:23.737 --> 01:43:25.719
charter school interviews
to which you were

01:43:25.719 --> 01:43:32.209
all invited will be May 20, 21, and 22.
Possibly. There are

01:43:32.209 --> 01:43:34.267
ten candidates for charter
applications that

01:43:34.292 --> 01:43:36.280
are still in the running,
but they're about

01:43:36.280 --> 01:43:39.359
to go through another review.
So we don't know how

01:43:39.384 --> 01:43:42.130
many will be put forward
by the Commissioner

01:43:42.130 --> 01:43:45.624
for our veto vote. But I
would encourage those

01:43:45.649 --> 01:43:48.820
of you that can to come
to the interviews.

01:43:48.820 --> 01:43:52.629
They're very, very informative.
I know Mr Cortez

01:43:52.654 --> 01:43:56.050
is typically there. You
can watch online if

01:43:56.050 --> 01:44:02.179
you meet to. I know Dr. Ellis is famous for
doing that, and but it really does help

01:44:02.179 --> 01:44:07.019
to be there, and it's very encouraging to
meet the candidates face to face. So I wanted

01:44:07.019 --> 01:44:09.204
to give you an update about that.
One last

01:44:09.229 --> 01:44:11.541
thing that staff gave
us, they're doing these

01:44:11.541 --> 01:44:18.719
really cool dashboard documents that are in
color, which is helpful, and so these are

01:44:18.719 --> 01:44:20.990
the ten schools that are
still in the running

01:44:21.015 --> 01:44:23.360
and course, these will
be narrowed down. Maybe,

01:44:23.360 --> 01:44:26.007
possibly, I don't know,
but it's kind of cool

01:44:26.032 --> 01:44:28.539
to see the impact area.
So there's a little

01:44:28.539 --> 01:44:31.503
map and you can come
look at mine or any of

01:44:31.528 --> 01:44:34.400
the Committee on School
Initiative members.

01:44:34.400 --> 01:44:38.550
I would have assume still have these. It
talks about enrollment projections. So

01:44:38.550 --> 01:44:40.819
a lot of the data that
we will need at the,

01:44:40.844 --> 01:44:43.139
if you choose to come
to the interviewer, on

01:44:43.139 --> 01:44:46.896
these little colorful
sheets, which I think
is pretty cool.

01:44:46.921 --> 01:44:50.739
- (inaudible speech off-mic)
- Yeah, we don't know if it'll

01:44:50.739 --> 01:44:54.459
be all three, they reserved three days for
interviews, but we don't know if it'll be

01:44:54.459 --> 01:44:57.359
one, two or three of those days. Based on,
- Is it here in Austin?

01:44:57.384 --> 01:44:58.890
- It's here in this room.

01:44:58.915 --> 01:45:04.083
- Madam Chair? Could we
be sent that information?
By staff?

01:45:04.959 --> 01:45:07.429
- I think so, yeah. Debbie,
could you ask Heather

01:45:07.454 --> 01:45:09.750
to send this out. But
remember, you know, this

01:45:09.750 --> 01:45:12.383
could be whittled down. I
don't know, but this is just
still whose

01:45:12.408 --> 01:45:15.159
- That sounds like helpful information to me.

01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:20.871
Yes. I like the colors.
- Anything else? Yes, Mr. Cortez?

01:45:20.896 --> 01:45:24.190
And just on the Charter
interviews, if you can't make

01:45:24.190 --> 01:45:26.720
make it and you are
listening and some of

01:45:26.745 --> 01:45:29.309
us are here, text us your
questions and we can

01:45:29.309 --> 01:45:31.935
one of us, whoever's
here, will be happy to

01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:34.800
ask. I know I've had
members text me questions.

01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:37.266
Andi I've asked because
they're listening

01:45:37.291 --> 01:45:39.909
from from at home or at
work or wherever they

01:45:39.909 --> 01:45:43.613
are. That way it'll speed
up the process when

01:45:43.638 --> 01:45:47.400
we actually take action.
- Just one more thing.

01:45:47.400 --> 01:45:54.360
You did get a copy of the charter amendments.
Mr Cortez had requested that. And I think

01:45:54.360 --> 01:45:57.430
we'll be getting these, I
think, at every meeting.

01:45:57.455 --> 01:46:00.139
And so there are, a
document that was in your

01:46:00.139 --> 01:46:02.702
box. I think Heather
put them in there on

01:46:02.727 --> 01:46:05.449
Wednesday. And so, just
to keep track of kind

01:46:05.449 --> 01:46:13.139
of growth and expansion and all that sort
of thing with charters.
- (inaudible speech off-mic)

01:46:13.139 --> 01:46:15.696
Following up on Mr. Cortez's
point, when I did participate,

01:46:15.721 --> 01:46:17.869
there's there's an hour and
a half limit that they

01:46:17.869 --> 01:46:20.605
keep that and they keep
a very strict timeline

01:46:20.630 --> 01:46:23.340
to that. And after the
the Charter gives their

01:46:23.340 --> 01:46:26.585
presentation and then the
governance part of the

01:46:26.610 --> 01:46:29.499
staff asks their question
and the financial

01:46:29.499 --> 01:46:33.420
part and the legal part. It oftentime ran
out to very little time for the state board

01:46:33.420 --> 01:46:35.105
members to ask the questions.
We've actually

01:46:35.130 --> 01:46:36.790
asked them to increase
that from an hour and

01:46:36.790 --> 01:46:40.309
a half to two hours so that we at the end
of the road would actually have more times

01:46:40.309 --> 01:46:44.820
for questions if needed. And staff is
considering how many they're gonna have,

01:46:44.820 --> 01:46:47.248
what days will fit in and
if they can possibly

01:46:47.273 --> 01:46:49.469
do that also.
Yeah, that's a good

01:46:49.469 --> 01:46:54.769
call. You know, staff has got very targeted
because they've got groups looking at these

01:46:54.769 --> 01:46:57.126
things in a very targeted
way, especially the

01:46:57.151 --> 01:46:59.380
financial area. And we
don't want to finish

01:46:59.380 --> 01:47:01.337
an interview when they
didn't get their questions

01:47:01.362 --> 01:47:02.980
answered. And we didn't
get our questions

01:47:02.980 --> 01:47:07.805
either, so I think you
know, that's very that's

01:47:07.830 --> 01:47:12.429
a good call. That's great.
Any other? Oh yes.

01:47:12.429 --> 01:47:14.132
Miss Perez. Sorry.

01:47:14.157 --> 01:47:19.240
- In addition to receiving these via
hard copy, can I get them, not only

01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:22.630
digitally, but if you
could email me the link

01:47:22.655 --> 01:47:25.800
of where this is posted
online, so that in

01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:28.826
addition to the very
minimal impact statement

01:47:28.851 --> 01:47:32.050
that is of no value to
districts and communities

01:47:32.050 --> 01:47:35.083
where these expansions
go, that they at least

01:47:35.108 --> 01:47:38.050
have some kind of advance
notice to the very

01:47:38.050 --> 01:47:45.407
minimal public input that's allowed.
- Any other on

01:47:45.432 --> 01:47:52.340
that issue. Okay, great.
Thank you, Mrs. Cargill.

01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:56.719
And just in, kind of, wrapping
up the agenda for today,

01:47:56.719 --> 01:47:59.469
I wanted to announce the
membership of the ad

01:47:59.494 --> 01:48:02.219
hoc committee. This
is, just to be clear,

01:48:02.219 --> 01:48:07.139
this is an advisory committee only. There
is no decision making that will be made by

01:48:07.139 --> 01:48:10.214
these members who are
just assigned homework.

01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:13.690
Basically, that's what we're
giving them, homework.

01:48:13.690 --> 01:48:20.139
To work with the Commissioner who's reached
out to the Board of Educationto try to

01:48:20.139 --> 01:48:25.130
get our processes working together again.
At the end of the day, we're hoping that, if

01:48:25.130 --> 01:48:33.389
any decision making that needs to be coming
out of those meetings, that the board

01:48:33.389 --> 01:48:36.414
would take up that at
that point and we would

01:48:36.439 --> 01:48:39.439
go forward. But again,
this would be helpful

01:48:39.439 --> 01:48:41.874
having this advisory
committee assigned this bit

01:48:41.899 --> 01:48:44.110
of homework between now
and the next meeting

01:48:44.110 --> 01:48:50.090
to work alongside the Commissioner's folks.
And I wanted to announce the membership of

01:48:50.090 --> 01:48:53.517
the advisory committee.
And it is Marty Rowley,

01:48:53.542 --> 01:48:56.729
who will be the Chair.
Pam Little, Pat Hardy

01:48:56.729 --> 01:49:00.687
Marisa Perez-Diaz, and
Barbara Cargill. And we

01:49:00.712 --> 01:49:03.266
want to think you for
taking on that extra bit of

01:49:03.292 --> 01:49:06.006
homework between April and
June meetings. Thank you

01:49:06.030 --> 01:49:09.292
very much. Mr. Rowley, did
you want to say anything?

01:49:09.318 --> 01:49:13.281
- Yeah, just mention that we
had kind of a preliminary

01:49:13.306 --> 01:49:16.753
meeting, yesterday, even
though we weren't yet

01:49:16.779 --> 01:49:20.756
formed. So we'll be working
with TEA staff, and also,

01:49:20.781 --> 01:49:24.585
talking with various other
interested stakeholders,

01:49:24.610 --> 01:49:30.399
and we'll provide a report
to this board, an advisory

01:49:30.424 --> 01:49:35.845
report only at our June meeting
- Thank you for

01:49:34.171 --> 01:49:38.160
taking on that role to head
up that ad hoc committee,

01:49:36.184 --> 01:49:41.881
Mr. Rowley, we really appreciate it.
I'd like

01:49:41.909 --> 01:49:45.730
to inform members about
the upcoming Teacher

01:49:45.755 --> 01:49:49.551
Retirement System nominations.
Those of you who've been

01:49:49.550 --> 01:49:52.485
on the board, we do this
every few years, and

01:49:52.510 --> 01:49:55.420
there are some open spots
that will be coming

01:49:55.420 --> 01:50:00.521
up, and I believe there's
a handout for all the

01:50:00.546 --> 01:50:05.090
members. And the way
this works is that we

01:50:05.090 --> 01:50:07.733
nominate to the Teacher
Retirement System of

01:50:07.758 --> 01:50:10.199
Texas, and then the
Governor appoints from

01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:16.969
our nominations. So what I'm asking you to
do is to really thoughtfully and carefully

01:50:16.969 --> 01:50:21.433
look at the qualifications
and the background

01:50:21.458 --> 01:50:26.189
that enables folks to serve
on such an important

01:50:26.189 --> 01:50:30.108
role on the as a trustee
of the Teacher Retirement

01:50:30.133 --> 01:50:33.489
System of Texas. And so
what I asked Debbie to

01:50:33.489 --> 01:50:35.726
do was to go and actually
just look at the

01:50:35.751 --> 01:50:38.119
backgrounds of current
trustees, just to give

01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:40.809
you a feel for the kind
of background that a

01:50:40.834 --> 01:50:43.320
lot of the folks who've
been serving have.

01:50:43.320 --> 01:50:46.820
And so you'd want a
multiplicity of background,

01:50:46.845 --> 01:50:50.320
but obviously, this is
quite an important role,

01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:56.449
and so we want to be thoughtful about who you
nominate, and those nominations are due,

01:50:56.449 --> 01:51:00.147
let's see, that's not on the front.
Maybe we, what?

01:51:00.172 --> 01:51:04.059
When should we want, we want
them by the June meeting?

01:51:04.059 --> 01:51:06.771
Yeah, I think we want we
want to get these in, by

01:51:06.796 --> 01:51:09.320
the June meeting, because
we'll be discussing,

01:51:09.320 --> 01:51:12.101
it'll be an agenda item
at the June meeting.

01:51:12.126 --> 01:51:15.439
So let's put, let's see,
when iis June meeting. Let's

01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.888
put a date on here. What was that?
Mid-May?

01:51:18.913 --> 01:51:22.650
Okay, so let's just say,
why don't you write on

01:51:22.650 --> 01:51:26.737
the front of that page
that these are due, and

01:51:26.762 --> 01:51:30.650
then we'll have it in our updates.
Yeah, the

01:51:30.650 --> 01:51:34.206
weekly updates that we
get from Debbie, she'll

01:51:34.231 --> 01:51:37.989
remind us. Let's just do
it, maybe the week, what

01:51:37.989 --> 01:51:47.349
is that Friday of May 13 week. What
is that? 17? Okay, May 17.

01:51:47.349 --> 01:51:49.546
And that'll be plenty of
time for her to assemble

01:51:49.571 --> 01:51:51.479
the papers and get ready.
So make sure that

01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:54.093
they send in resumes that
you get full background

01:51:54.118 --> 01:51:56.550
so that your nominee,
because we vote on these.

01:51:56.550 --> 01:52:01.641
Or we look at these. And
typically what we do

01:52:01.666 --> 01:52:06.400
is, at least recently,
we have sent all of

01:52:06.400 --> 01:52:08.382
them over and then let
the Governor decide.

01:52:08.407 --> 01:52:10.409
But the more information
obviously, that he,

01:52:10.409 --> 01:52:14.642
that the Governor's office
has on the nominees,

01:52:14.667 --> 01:52:18.699
their resumes, etcetera,
the more likely that

01:52:18.699 --> 01:52:23.706
they would be considered
- (inaudible speech off-mic)

01:52:23.731 --> 01:52:28.250
- You submit it to Debbie
on and then we will be...
- (inaudible speech off-mic)

01:52:28.250 --> 01:52:31.322
- Yes, exactly. If you
want to nominate somebody,

01:52:31.347 --> 01:52:34.209
make sure, you know, give
them the best chance

01:52:34.209 --> 01:52:36.660
of being chosen by the
Governor by giving good

01:52:36.685 --> 01:52:39.320
background. Yes, Miss Cargill?
And then Dr. Ellis

01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:43.468
- How can we find out what
the job responsibilities

01:52:43.493 --> 01:52:46.260
are? Time, commitment
and all that.

01:52:46.260 --> 01:52:48.021
- I can try to get that
information for you.

01:52:48.046 --> 01:52:49.659
- We've got to sell
it on the people.

01:52:49.659 --> 01:52:52.983
- Well, that's a good point.
You know, like, I

01:52:53.008 --> 01:52:56.519
don't even know often they meet.
That is a really

01:52:56.519 --> 01:53:04.769
good point. So maybe we can just, you know,
give them some idea.
- (inaudible speech off-mic)

01:53:04.769 --> 01:53:05.982
Doctor Ellis?

01:53:06.007 --> 01:53:09.620
Can Staff clarify? Okay, there's two
that come from nominations from us. I know

01:53:09.619 --> 01:53:11.819
one of them is currently
Christopher Mosque

01:53:11.844 --> 01:53:14.170
because he's from Lufkin.
But who is the other

01:53:14.170 --> 01:53:17.157
one that's coming up
that we will actually be
replacing.

01:53:17.182 --> 01:53:20.209
- David Corpus. His term ends at the

01:53:20.209 --> 01:53:25.959
end of August, and we have an online form,
a nomination form that we'll send you that

01:53:25.959 --> 01:53:32.869
your applicant can fill out and attach his
or her resume to it. And you see a copy of

01:53:32.869 --> 01:53:37.980
that in your packet. Just so you know the
sort of information that will be collected.

01:53:37.980 --> 01:53:45.079
Again, that'd be May 17 when that is
due to Debbie. Your nominee. And I

01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:50.559
I want to announce that, congratulations to
Ken Mercer, who recently retired. The Texas

01:53:50.559 --> 01:53:53.828
House on Tuesday passed
a resolution in his

01:53:53.853 --> 01:53:57.320
honor and six senators
spoke from the floor to

01:53:57.320 --> 01:54:01.081
honor him that day.
Congratulations.

01:54:01.106 --> 01:54:02.960
Blessed, overwhelmed and
on my own terms was

01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:06.608
Thank you, I was blessed, overwhelmed, and
in my own term, I was double blessed. I

01:54:06.633 --> 01:54:10.169
was shocked. Senators, Republicans and
Democrats came, and it was supposed to be

01:54:10.169 --> 01:54:13.084
a, you walk by the dais
and you wave and keep on

01:54:13.109 --> 01:54:15.820
walking. And you know
the call it the Queen's

01:54:15.820 --> 01:54:18.230
Wave. You know what I mean?
And it wasn't that, I was

01:54:18.255 --> 01:54:20.729
shocked, overwhelmed, and
again, double-blessed by that.

01:54:20.729 --> 01:54:31.369
-How long have you served
on the board of education?

01:54:31.369 --> 01:54:37.539
At the end of this term, what would it be?
- They mentioned my financial services,

01:54:37.539 --> 01:54:39.976
which is thirty four years
with USA which Army,

01:54:40.001 --> 01:54:42.209
Air Force, Navy, Marines.
And then my forty

01:54:42.209 --> 01:54:47.584
years in IT. And then it'll be
fourteen years when I finish in 2020.

01:54:47.609 --> 01:54:49.999
- This term. Yeah, absolutely.

01:54:49.999 --> 01:54:55.820
Well, thank you for your service, Mr Mercer.
We're happy to serve with you. Also wanted

01:54:55.820 --> 01:55:02.510
to bring up kind of a legislative update
because we got noticed, and I think Dr Ellis

01:55:02.510 --> 01:55:04.093
is ready with that information.

01:55:04.118 --> 01:55:07.209
- I just want to give a little
bit of update. First of all,

01:55:07.209 --> 01:55:09.091
thank the board chair
for all the work that

01:55:09.116 --> 01:55:11.059
she's done on this
legislation that's working

01:55:11.059 --> 01:55:14.070
towards the PSF. She's
done Yeoman's work to

01:55:14.095 --> 01:55:16.880
make sure that we stay
on top of all that.

01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:21.139
I think everything's on the front burner
right now, but there's some things

01:55:21.139 --> 01:55:23.683
that are really on the front burner.
Some legislation

01:55:23.708 --> 01:55:25.709
that is pertinent to
us and our colleagues

01:55:25.709 --> 01:55:27.705
at the School LandBboard
that we comanage the

01:55:27.730 --> 01:55:29.570
Permanent School Fund with.
So a couple that

01:55:29.570 --> 01:55:33.990
I would point out that it sounds like we'll
be heard this coming up week. Number

01:55:33.990 --> 01:55:41.180
one is Senate Bill 608. And that is
a Sunset legislation for the School

01:55:41.180 --> 01:55:44.021
Land Board, and that's
pertinent to us because

01:55:44.046 --> 01:55:46.559
part of the recommendations
that came out

01:55:46.559 --> 01:55:49.834
of Sunset was that board
would move from three

01:55:49.859 --> 01:55:52.900
to five members and
those two extra members

01:55:52.900 --> 01:55:55.243
would actually be appointed
by the governor and

01:55:55.268 --> 01:55:57.639
attorney general. But
from a list that comes

01:55:57.639 --> 01:56:02.420
from the State Board of Education. A list of
members. So that that's one of the things

01:56:02.420 --> 01:56:09.519
that's pertinent in Senate Bill 608.
The other one that I think, important

01:56:09.519 --> 01:56:15.360
also, and that's critical, is Senate
Bill 1659 by Senator Watson, and I think

01:56:15.360 --> 01:56:18.160
that it's a bill that
really works hard towards

01:56:18.185 --> 01:56:20.610
improving the governance
structure of the

01:56:20.610 --> 01:56:24.367
entire PSF. It looks at
the School Land Board and

01:56:24.392 --> 01:56:27.749
the State Board of
Education side, and there's,

01:56:27.749 --> 01:56:30.258
that's, I think, a
pretty critical piece of

01:56:30.283 --> 01:56:32.939
legislation. I would point
out one other thing

01:56:32.939 --> 01:56:36.167
that happened yesterday,
I guess it was, on the

01:56:36.192 --> 01:56:39.059
House side, on House
Joint Resolution 151.

01:56:39.059 --> 01:56:45.260
The legislation is looking to increase the

01:56:45.260 --> 01:56:48.348
amount that can be sent
directly to the available

01:56:48.373 --> 01:56:51.189
school fund from three
hundred million a year

01:56:51.189 --> 01:56:56.679
to six hundred million a year, and currently
that is from the School Land Board has

01:56:56.679 --> 01:56:58.897
the opportunity to do that
because they have the

01:56:58.922 --> 01:57:00.889
revenue that's coming
in from the royalties

01:57:00.889 --> 01:57:03.737
and this is an avenue to
allow them to do that.

01:57:03.762 --> 01:57:06.229
As I mentioned some
of these other bills,

01:57:06.229 --> 01:57:08.417
there's lots of different
legislation out there

01:57:08.442 --> 01:57:10.650
from Senator Watson that
Representative Ken King

01:57:10.650 --> 01:57:13.076
is also co-authoring, or
carrying on the House side.

01:57:13.101 --> 01:57:15.273
Senator Taylor has a bill.
Representative Murphy

01:57:15.273 --> 01:57:22.489
has a bill in. Something is going to
happen in the revenue stream that currently

01:57:22.489 --> 01:57:25.060
is at school and board
and some of these pieces

01:57:25.085 --> 01:57:27.309
of legislation could
theoretically end up

01:57:27.309 --> 01:57:33.639
on our side of the fund. If that happened,
there would currently be no avenue for that

01:57:33.639 --> 01:57:37.199
direct contribution to
the ASF to continue.

01:57:37.224 --> 01:57:40.840
So what we asked in the
testimony, to HJR151

01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:46.699
was that the state Board of Education
would also have the ability to give directly

01:57:46.699 --> 01:57:49.935
to the ASF if, by chance,
that revenue stream

01:57:49.960 --> 01:57:53.030
from oil and gas revenues
did end up on our

01:57:53.030 --> 01:57:55.726
side of the equation,
that we would have an

01:57:55.751 --> 01:57:58.360
avenue to continue that
distribution that's

01:57:58.360 --> 01:58:03.010
already being made by General Land Office.
So that was what we consider to them. They

01:58:03.010 --> 01:58:04.686
did not make any committee
substitution to

01:58:04.711 --> 01:58:06.400
that point in time, but
there's still a long

01:58:06.400 --> 01:58:09.184
way for those bills to
go through the process.

01:58:09.209 --> 01:58:11.790
So those are a couple
of the bills that are

01:58:11.790 --> 01:58:14.973
being, like I said on the front
of the front burner right now.

01:58:14.998 --> 01:58:16.489
- So I want to make sure that

01:58:16.489 --> 01:58:19.402
all the members did see
the legislative update

01:58:19.427 --> 01:58:22.130
that I gave you with
the opinion piece that

01:58:22.130 --> 01:58:26.659
was in the Houston Chronicle that I sent in
addition to the fact sheet that I sent to

01:58:26.659 --> 01:58:29.813
everyone because those
are good talking points

01:58:29.838 --> 01:58:32.900
and things that we, you
know, want to be able

01:58:32.900 --> 01:58:35.615
to talk to our legislators about.
You know, I

01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:38.270
think there's just a lot
of misunderstanding

01:58:38.270 --> 01:58:43.400
and confusion between what School
Land board does, what the state board

01:58:43.400 --> 01:58:49.050
does, even what our role is, how we look at
things that you know, how we even come to

01:58:49.050 --> 01:58:51.793
decisions and that sort of thing.
And we want to

01:58:51.818 --> 01:58:54.369
be clear is we possibly can.
And so hopefully

01:58:54.369 --> 01:58:57.176
the talking points that are
the one page or something

01:58:57.201 --> 01:58:59.619
that you can easily send
onto your legislative

01:58:59.619 --> 01:59:04.900
delegation and other constituents that you
have that would, you know, work alongside

01:59:04.900 --> 01:59:07.458
you in advocating for
the role that the board

01:59:07.483 --> 01:59:09.849
is done for one hundred
fifty three years.

01:59:09.849 --> 01:59:17.909
So I think you know that that role is an
important role,I know, to oll of our members

01:59:17.909 --> 01:59:21.792
and we very much need
engagement at this point,

01:59:21.817 --> 01:59:25.190
moving forward on this
because the rubber

01:59:25.190 --> 01:59:28.385
is meeting the road at this moment.
And so we

01:59:28.410 --> 01:59:31.510
need to be making sure
our delegation knows,

01:59:31.510 --> 01:59:35.679
knows about our work, knows what we've
done, knows the fiduciary job we've done.

01:59:35.679 --> 01:59:40.189
We've been good stewards of this fund and
and I think that's provable by facts, not

01:59:40.189 --> 01:59:42.745
because it's based on any opinions.
So I tried to

01:59:42.770 --> 01:59:45.249
give you some of those
facts in the facts sheet.

01:59:45.249 --> 01:59:51.429
So if you need anything else or you know,
please let Debbie know, sorry, let me know

01:59:51.429 --> 02:00:00.870
if you need anything else that I can send
you. That would be great. What about it?

02:00:00.870 --> 02:00:13.620
We talked about branding a little bit, by the way. Did
y'all get a PSF water bottle or no?
- (inaudible speech off-microphone)

02:00:13.620 --> 02:00:24.789
We'll see what we can do. Okay, Okay. Yeah.
- (inaudible speech off-microphone) $150?
- I think Colin's got 'em, so we'll see

02:00:24.789 --> 02:00:26.687
we can get you one.

02:00:26.712 --> 02:00:32.380
- Any other. Any other discussion? Do we
have any any announcements or anything

02:00:32.380 --> 02:00:36.280
that people want to talk about their personal
lives. We love personal announcements and

02:00:36.280 --> 02:00:40.606
excitement. Exciting things going on.
Nothing exciting?

02:00:40.631 --> 02:00:44.159
Oh, yes, Miss Perez-Diaz and then Mr.
Rowley.

02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:51.949
- So just wanted to share with the group
that I will be starting my PhD studies

02:00:51.949 --> 02:01:06.169
in the fall. (microphone cuts off)
So I'll be studying of educational leadership.
Thank you.

02:01:06.169 --> 02:01:07.872
- And Mr. Rowley?

02:01:07.897 --> 02:01:12.980
- Well, if you happen to be in Dallas, in the
Dallas area next weekend, my son Michael

02:01:12.979 --> 02:01:17.909
has a documentary film that's going to be
premiering at the Dallas Film Institute. And

02:01:17.909 --> 02:01:26.010
so that will be Friday night. It is about
Palestinian, a Palestinian parkour team,

02:01:26.010 --> 02:01:29.375
which is a group of
young men who do the

02:01:29.400 --> 02:01:33.150
parkour, you know, jump
and...in Israel, Yeah,

02:01:33.150 --> 02:01:37.190
it's their way of
responding to the situation

02:01:37.215 --> 02:01:41.230
in which they find
themselves in the occupied

02:01:41.230 --> 02:01:44.554
territories.
- (inaudible speech off-microphone)
- Yeah, jumping

02:01:44.579 --> 02:01:47.719
over walls. Hurdle. Hurdle is
the name of the film. So there
you go.

02:01:47.719 --> 02:01:50.180
- (inaudible speech
off-microphone)

02:01:50.205 --> 02:01:53.744
- It should be PBS,
actually, is looking at it.

02:01:53.769 --> 02:01:56.840
And others. So there's
a possibility that

02:01:56.840 --> 02:02:02.318
it'll be out at some point,
but I'll let you know.

02:02:02.343 --> 02:02:06.400
- On May 1, my
scholarship foundation

02:02:06.400 --> 02:02:09.817
anticipates giving away
half a million dollars

02:02:09.842 --> 02:02:13.380
in scholarships to students
in our rural schools

02:02:13.380 --> 02:02:17.197
in El Paso County, and
our students who are,

02:02:17.222 --> 02:02:21.269
what the state considers
at risk for graduating

02:02:21.269 --> 02:02:23.725
on time, and we took, we
have worked with them for

02:02:23.750 --> 02:02:25.989
six months. We take them
through a competitive

02:02:25.989 --> 02:02:29.465
college portfolio
process, and we help them

02:02:29.490 --> 02:02:33.019
prepare for college,
career, or military service.

02:02:33.019 --> 02:02:41.229
And we have one hundred and fifteen students
this year that we plan on, not only giving

02:02:41.229 --> 02:02:46.369
several scholarships to, but also helping
them transition into their next step

02:02:46.369 --> 02:02:50.496
in life after
graduating high school.

02:02:50.521 --> 02:02:56.579
- Yes, Doctor Ellis?
- Since our good friend Miss West

02:02:56.579 --> 02:02:58.595
kind of kind of picked fun
a little bit about our

02:02:58.620 --> 02:03:00.449
A and M Aggies today,
and in deference to our

02:03:00.449 --> 02:03:03.851
new member, Miss Little,
who is a diehard Aggie

02:03:03.876 --> 02:03:07.040
also, and in also deference
to Miss Cargill,

02:03:07.040 --> 02:03:09.669
who has now has family
members, a daughter

02:03:09.694 --> 02:03:12.360
in law, daughter in law,
who's now an Aggie,

02:03:12.360 --> 02:03:15.019
my third child of three
will be receiving his Aggie

02:03:15.044 --> 02:03:18.929
ring next week, so we're all
excited about that also.

02:03:19.029 --> 02:03:26.452
(microphone turns off)

02:03:27.677 --> 02:03:34.369
- That's right. The big game.
- Lady Bears, Lady Bears

02:03:34.469 --> 02:03:41.982
play the Final Four tonight. Lady
Bears play in the Final Four tonight.

02:03:42.007 --> 02:03:46.920
(microphone turns off)

02:03:46.944 --> 02:03:49.341
- I'm having trouble being
excited for any of you.

02:03:49.365 --> 02:03:51.365
(crosstalk off-microphone)

02:03:51.389 --> 02:03:53.389
- This is Texas.

02:03:53.413 --> 02:03:57.366
- I have to brag, too. I have to brag, too.
My daughter from

02:03:57.391 --> 02:04:01.513
Stanford Law just came back from
studying, at her quarter break,

02:04:01.530 --> 02:04:06.110
that she studied in Israel and got the meet
the Israeli Supreme Court, mayors, and

02:04:06.110 --> 02:04:10.489
everything else, and that's pretty neat. I
brag on Baylor and Texas Tech, and for those

02:04:10.489 --> 02:04:13.441
who are interested with
my retired, my civilian

02:04:13.466 --> 02:04:16.209
job, I'll be experiencing
my lifelong dream,

02:04:16.209 --> 02:04:19.406
which is to open a a
Country Western, Ballroom

02:04:19.431 --> 02:04:22.739
Dance, and Ballet Dance studio.
Yes, I'm joking.

02:04:22.739 --> 02:04:45.030
- I was thinking, Wow, that is awesome.
(inaudible crosstalk)
Exactly, Exactly. Exactly. That's right. That's right.

02:04:45.030 --> 02:04:50.156
We can't unsee that.
Thank you. Exactly.

02:04:50.181 --> 02:05:02.649
- You have to admit though,
it's better than the dad jokes.

02:05:02.649 --> 02:05:04.762
Just so members will know,
on Tuesday, I'm going

02:05:04.787 --> 02:05:06.659
to get the delightful
pleasure of having my

02:05:06.659 --> 02:05:09.089
second knee operation.
So if I don't answer

02:05:09.114 --> 02:05:11.739
your, if you send a note,
an email or whatever,

02:05:11.739 --> 02:05:16.880
you know, I'm not gonna get it for a little
bit. Or if you get back a strange reply,

02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:20.238
you might know why. So,
anyway, I just I will

02:05:20.263 --> 02:05:23.670
try to stay off my phone
and off the computer.

02:05:23.670 --> 02:05:29.719
Just to make sure.
- Madam Chairman, it's just
a good thing. You're not a horse.

02:05:29.719 --> 02:05:36.209
- I would been put out of my misery quite
a long time ago.
- (inaudible cross talk)

02:05:36.209 --> 02:05:41.894
- Should give me a leg up, yeah.
Thank you, Mr. Rowley.

02:05:41.919 --> 02:05:46.360
Alright, members,
appreciate your hard work

02:05:46.360 --> 02:05:49.072
again this week. You know,
always love serving

02:05:49.097 --> 02:05:51.610
with each one of you.
And, you know, I told

02:05:51.610 --> 02:05:56.429
this to so many people. I'm just so proud to
be part of this group and just so honored

02:05:56.429 --> 02:06:02.059
to be the chair for however a short time
I've got left. But I really, really enjoyed

02:06:02.059 --> 02:06:06.110
it. And I love working with you every week.
I say, Okay, yes. We could do this again.

02:06:06.110 --> 02:06:10.489
It's just great. So blessings to all
of you and we'll see you in June.