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(gavel banging)

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<v ->We wanna welcome everyone</v>

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to our State Board of Education meeting here

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for January 2020.

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And this is always our most exciting day of the week

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because we have all of y'all with us today.

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It's so good to see everyone here.

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We're gonna begin the meeting

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with our student performance

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and I am gonna call on Donna Bahorich

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to introduce our group.

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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It's my distinct honor and pleasure

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to introduce our student performance today

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and it's the chamber orchestra

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from Spring Branch ISD.

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It's the varsity string orchestra

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at Memorial Middle School

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under the director, Megan Saavedra

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and Bethany Prindle.

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The chamber orchestra's comprised

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of the most advanced players in the program.

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21 of the 32 students in the orchestra

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are here performing for you today.

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They will perform the "Korean Folk Song Variants"

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by Elliot Del Borgo.

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Thank you for inviting.

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We really appreciate you coming

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and performing for us today.

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We're really excited you're here.

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("Korean Folk Song Variants" by Elliot Del Borgo)

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(audience applauding)

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<v ->Again, thank you for coming</v>

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and I'd like to just present this certificate.

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And if Megan Saavedra and Bethany Prindle

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would come forward,

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I'd like to give you this little recognition

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for coming today.

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<v ->Thank you so much.</v>

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Sure.

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Thank you so much.

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(audience applauding)

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(audience speaking indistinctly)

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<v ->And I am now going to call on Ms. Barbara Cargill</v>

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for the invocation.

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<v ->Okay, good morning.</v>
<v ->Good morning.</v>

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<v ->We'll have our invocation.</v>

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And I chose a Bible verse

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that is very near and dear to my heart

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and I'm sure it is to many of you.

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And so I'd like to start by reading this.

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And I'm gonna speak a little bit loud

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since we have activity going on.

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It's Proverbs 3:5 and 6, which is:

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Trust in the Lord with all your heart

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and lean not on your own understanding;

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in all your ways acknowledge him,

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and he shall direct your paths.

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Proverbs 3:5 and 6.

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On the State Board of Education we're very into verbs.

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And so the verbs here are

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trust, lean and acknowledge.

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And so I think we all know what trust means

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but the verb that kinda threw me

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and the phrase that threw me is,

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"Lean not on your own understanding."

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And so I thought, "What does that really mean?"

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And when we think about it

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it's just another way of saying

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that we need to live by faith.

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And that's easy to say but it's hard to do.

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So we know that in the Bible that Daniel

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was leaning not on his own understanding

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when he was led to the pit

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to spend the night with hungry lions.

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And we know that Abraham

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was not leaning on his own understanding

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when he was walking up that mountain

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to offer a sacrifice to God.

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And to apply it to us

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we can't lean on our own understanding

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when a loved one is suddenly taken from us.

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And we can't lean on our own understanding

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when there is violence in our schools or community.

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It doesn't make sense.

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We can't understand that.

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And the list could go on and on.

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And so by trusting in God

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and relying on our understanding

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and acknowledging him,

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it means that we have to pursue

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God's will for our life.

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And we have to do things God's way

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instead of our way.

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Because we won't ever understand.

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And so by living in faith and by trusting in him

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we don't have to lean on our understanding

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because we have the faith

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that he's gonna work out good in every situation

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even if we can't see it ourselves.

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So let's pray.

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So Heavenly Father,

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we know that you love us.

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And that you know us better

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than we even know ourselves.

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Help us to fully be the person

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that you intend us to be

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and that you made us to be.

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And we ask that you would stamp

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Proverbs 3:5 and 6 on our hearts

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and in our souls and minds

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so that we can live it every day.

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Help us to lean, today, not on our understanding

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but on your understanding

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as we make important decisions

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that will affect every child in our state.

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Father, please direct our paths

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in wisdom and understanding.

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And we pray in your name.

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Amen.
<v ->Amen.</v>

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<v ->So if you'll rise for the pledges.</v>

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The flags are this direction.

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So we'll start with the pledge

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to the United States Flag.

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<v Everyone>I pledge allegiance to the Flag</v>

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of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one Nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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<v ->And now the pledge to the Texas Flag.</v>

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<v Everyone>Honor the Texas Flag;</v>

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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas,

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one state under God,

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one and indivisible.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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<v ->Thank you Ms. Cargill.</v>

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We will next call on Ms. Debbie Ratcliffe

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for the roll call.

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<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Cortez.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Perez-Diaz.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Allen.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Mercer.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Bahorich.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Dr. Robinson.</v>
<v ->Present.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Cargill.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Maynard.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Hardy.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Little.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Davis.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Melton-Malone.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Rowley.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Dr. Ellis.</v>
<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->All right, thank you Debbie.</v>

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Next we'll move to the resolutions and presentations.

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And our first award will be presented to the

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Milken National Educator Award Recipient.

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And I'm gonna call on Ms. Gina Perez.

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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I wanna say first welcome

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to all of our esteemed CTSO representatives

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and student organizations.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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We have a hefty lift this morning

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of proclamations and student recipients

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and their leadership organizations.

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So let's get right to it.

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The first one that we're going to present this morning is

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the Texan Milken Coordinator.

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If Ms. Gabriela Duran-Lara

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would please join me here at the podium with Dr. Ellis

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for the presentation.

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<v ->Good morning, my name is Dr. Gabriela Duran-Lara</v>

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and I am proud to be here.

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Good morning board.

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Today, we are here to present the 2019 Milken Award

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for our 2019 recipient.

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But first I would like to share with you

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a little bit more about the Milken Award.

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The Milken Award for the last 30 years

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has been known to be the Oscars of teaching.

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It is an initiative of the Milken Family Foundation

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who have rewarded and inspired excellence

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in the world of education

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by honoring the 1% of educators around the country

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with $25,000.

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In addition to district, state

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and national-level recognition.

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In addition, a membership

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at the National Milken Educator Network

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which includes a group of more than 2,700

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top 1% educators, principals and specialists

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dedicated to strengthening education.

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Our 2019 Milken recipient is an educator

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who lives by the motto of whatever it takes

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to ensure that students succeed

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not only in her classroom

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but she prepares them for success beyond

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after they leave her classroom.

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She is a master teacher

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who constantly challenges students to exceed expectations

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and to be lifelong learners

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along with building pride of their native language

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and heritage.

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In her time at J.L. Long Middle School in Dallas ISD

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she has built capacity

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as a dual language instructional leader

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by supporting other secondary dual language teachers

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with program implementation,

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leading profession development

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and in an effort to impact student success.

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And she provides mentorship to new teachers

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among other things,

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she writes dual-language curriculum for Dallas ISD.

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Susan Moreno has established the Long Middle School's

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dual-language committee, which she chairs.

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Today it is my honor to present to you

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our 2019 Milken Educator Award recipient,

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Susan Moreno.

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(audience applauding)

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<v ->Congratulations.</v>

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Come on in here.

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<v ->And now our recipient, Dr., Mrs.?</v>

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<v ->Susan Moreno.</v>
<v ->Susan Moreno from Dallas ISD</v>

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has a few remarks.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Thank you very much Dr. Duran-Lara

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and the State Board of Education

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for inviting me here today to receive

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this very special award.

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And now when I see it, a very breakable award too

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so I'll probably put it up high

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so my kids don't break it.

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When I began to consider becoming an educator

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never would I have thought

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that I would be accepting

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such a prestigious award like this,

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not only from the state

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but let alone from Milken Foundation.

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I became a teacher not because,

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or because I felt the need to share my experience

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of being a biracial, bi-cultural and bilingual person.

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Growing up, education was a very important topic

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in my household, being taught the value of education

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and the doors that it would open to my future.

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This pushed me to explore my need to teach others.

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I never knew I wanted to be a teacher.

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But there were all these hidden signs throughout my life

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that led me to a moment in elementary school

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in Bentonville, Arkansas, where I grew up.

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I learned about the passion teach others

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when my mom came to my school

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to teach my classmates how to sing:

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(sings in a foreign language).

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And my students feeling,

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my friends and my classmates feeling very

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they're very excited and they were like,

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"Wow, you know a second language."

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It wasn't very common in Arkansas at that time

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to have a bilingual person around

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besides, you know, it was me.

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In middle school, I studied abroad in sixth grade

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where I got the privilege to study in Peru for a year

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where I got to live with my family.

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I traveled, I studied in a second language.

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Later on, also in middle school

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I also developed my social skills

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by visiting nursing homes and talking to elders

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about their life experiences.

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Later on in high school

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I was recommended by my counselors

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and AP Spanish teacher to a mother

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who wanted to hire a student

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to teach her four-year-old child

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to learn Spanish.

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And I was hired by her

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and I taught her daughter for many weeks.

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Later on in college,

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I worked as a student worker position

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at the Latino office at the University of Arkansas

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that gave me the experience to lead and unify

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multiple latino student organizations

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to work together for our common goal,

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which was promoting connections

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between our different cultures

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through our shared language, Spanish.

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Before I became a teacher

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I was initially on the path of

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going into the medical field

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when a personal experience lit a spark and ignited

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a flame that was within me:

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a never-ending and burning desire to teach.

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I realized that I wanted to help kids to understand,

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how to learn, to help them build relationships

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and to trust themselves

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and also foster a sense of curiosity

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on wanting to learn more.

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I love teaching,

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from the day that I started.

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Mostly because of its uncertainties

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because of the challenges that it does provide us

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and the challenges our students face.

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Just like my Frida Kahlo puzzle

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that I have yet to finish at home

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all the pieces are different

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and in different ways they are also the same.

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Just like our students.

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I love teaching for those aha moments.

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That moment when clarity, when the student says,

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"I get it, I understand.

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"I want to learn more."

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Those are the moments that I go for.

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Those are the moments that I teach for.

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And also because of being a world language

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and dual language teacher

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this has given me all of the moments and more.

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My students are proud of being

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a bi-literate, a bilingual and a bi-cultural student.

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I wanna take the moment to thank my supportive family

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who is also here with me today.

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My mom, who with her never-ending life lessons

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and today life lesson of

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learning to slow down when I talk

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and take a deep breath.

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With my sons and my husband for being super supportive

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of me going back to college,

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finishing and starting my teaching career,

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thank you very much for being there

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and helping me grade my papers when I needed help.

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Thank you to very much for my colleagues at work

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who are not here with me today

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but I do have some who shared this moment with me today.

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Thank you very much for coming.

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I would also to thank all my teachers of the past,

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Sugar Creek Elementary, Apple Glen Elementary,

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Washington Junior High, Bentonville High School

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and the University of Arkansas MAT Program

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to help me prepare and get me to where I am today.

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A huge thank you to Texas

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for letting me come here,

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move from Arkansas to Texas

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to be able to teach here

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and teach in Dallas ISD at J.L. Long Middle School.

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I would like to thank Danielle Petters

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who is the principal who gave me the opportunity to teach

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not only Spanish but dual language

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and it was the initiative program at our school

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that she let me lead six years ago.

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Thank you to our current principle Ms. Barnett

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and Mr. Cardenas for their constant support of our program

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and its growing initiative.

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And I would also like to thank Belinda Moran

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who is our bilingual specialist

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for helping secondary dual language

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succeed in Dallas ISD.

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And especially to all my preciosos

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who I call them my precious students

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who have walked in and out of my classroom

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over the last six years.

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I wanna thank them as well for,

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for inspiring me to be the teacher that I am today.

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This award is mostly dedicated to them

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and their inspirations of moving me forward

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and them moving themselves.

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And last, but definitely not least,

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I wanna say a huge gracias, thank you

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to the Milken Foundation

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for this prestigious award of $25,000

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and the recognition that goes with it.

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It all still feels very surreal,

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I'm still shaking right now.

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You have given me an even greater voice

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to speak up for language acquisition and dual language.

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Because being bilingual or even multi-lingual

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would create open mindedness in our students and our world

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will promote a more global citizen.

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I can now set goals that I would've never imagined

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goals that will spread from students to schools

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to districts and across the state.

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Thank you again for this great opportunity

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and special honor.

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(speaks in a foreign language)

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(audience applauding)

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<v ->Come on in.</v>

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<v ->Did we take off all of the fingerprints?</v>

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Thank you very much.

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Yeah, my mom is here.
<v ->Congratulations.</v>

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<v ->Thank you very much.</v>

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<v ->Next we have the resolutions for</v>

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the Presidential Awards for Excellence

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in Mathematics and Science Teaching.

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There are three individuals

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that we'll be calling up next.

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I'm sorry, three resolutions

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and we have them for the 2019 finalists,

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the 2018 awardees and 2017 awardees.

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I'm going to call you all up in order if,

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or you're already coming up, thank you.

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(audience laughs)

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Amy Edmondson and Markaela van Putten

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that is with member Donna Bahorich.

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Ms. Bridget Matamoros with member Sue Melton-Malone.

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Brent Voorhees with member Aicha Davis.

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Ms. Kay Fincher with member Marty Rowley.

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And Terry Snow with member Pat Hardy.

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The Presidential Awards for Excellence

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in Mathematics and Science Teaching

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are the highest honors

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bestowed by the United States Government

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specifically for K-12 mathematics and science teaching.

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The awards were established by Congress in 1983.

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Each President since has recognized up to 108

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exemplary teachers nationally each year.

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The National Science Foundation administrators

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on behalf of the White House

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of Science and Technology Policy.

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These awardees serve as models for their colleagues,

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inspiration to their communities

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and leaders in the improvement

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of mathematics and science education.

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(people giggling)

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(people giggling)

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(audience applauding)

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We're gonna do a little bit more ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm going to read the resolution now.

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Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence

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in Mathematics and Science Teaching program

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identifies outstanding mathematics

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and science teachers in each state

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and the four US jurisdictions

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and whereas through state selection committees

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three mathematics finalists and three science finalists

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were selected as Texas finalists.

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And whereas these teachers have become candidates

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for the Presidential Awards

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for Excellence in Mathematics and Science Teaching,

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now therefore it be resolved

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that the Texas State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations to:

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Amy Edmondson, Willow Wood Junior High School,

00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.730
Tomball Independent School District, Tomball, Texas;

00:24:56.730 --> 00:24:59.940
Bridget Matamoros, John H. Guyer High School

00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:03.190
Denton Independent School District, Denton, Texas;

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Brent Voorhees, Skyline High School,

00:25:05.280 --> 00:25:08.990
Dallas Independent School District in Dallas, Texas;

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for being named state finalists

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in the secondary mathematics category

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for the 2019 Presidential Award.

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And be it further resolved that the

00:25:17.360 --> 00:25:18.710
Texas State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations to:

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Kay Fincher, Amarillo High School,

00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:27.540
Amarillo Independent School District in Amarillo, Texas;

00:25:27.540 --> 00:25:29.230
Terry Snow of Aledo High School,

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of Aledo Independent School District in Aledo, Texas;

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Markaela van Putten of Tomball High School

00:25:34.620 --> 00:25:37.490
in Tomball Independent School District in Tomball, Texas;

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for being named state finalists

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in the secondary science category

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for the 2019 Presidential award.

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And be it further resolved that this resolution

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be presented to the aforementioned teachers

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for being identified as state and national finalists

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for the 2019 Presidential Awards for Excellence

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in Mathematics and Science Teaching program

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and that a copy be included in the permanent records

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of the State Board of Education.

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Witness our signatures the 31st day of January, 2020,

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Austin Texas.

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Dr. Keven Ellis, Chair,

00:26:11.510 --> 00:26:14.400
and myself, Georgina Perez, Secretary.

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Congratulations.

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(audience applauding)

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Not you guys.

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They're gone.

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They're supposed to be all here together.

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The scripts don't always follow the paper.

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All right.

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Now we're going to call on the 2017 National Awardees

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and their SBOE members to the circle.

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Wanda "Jean" Streepey, member Pam Little

00:26:42.670 --> 00:26:46.410
and Dolores "Lollie" Garay, member Donna Bahorich.

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Since the past awards began in 1983

00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:52.570
more than 4,400 teachers have been recognized

00:26:52.570 --> 00:26:54.080
for their contributions

00:26:54.080 --> 00:26:56.870
to mathematics and science education.

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Presidential awardees receive

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a citation signed by the President of the United States,

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a trip to Washington D.C.

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to attend a series of recognition events,

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and professional development opportunities

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and a $10,000 award from the National Science Foundation.

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Historically this board has recognized our Texas nominees.

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But beginning this year

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we will also be recognizing the Texans

00:27:20.550 --> 00:27:22.940
who won the national award.

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The award alternates between elementary

00:27:25.390 --> 00:27:28.300
and secondary educators each year.

00:27:28.300 --> 00:27:31.950
We're now pleased to recognize the Presidential Awards

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for Excellence in Mathematics and Science Teaching

00:27:34.690 --> 00:27:38.460
Secondary National Awardees from 2017.

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(audience applauding)

00:27:47.660 --> 00:27:52.050
The 2017 Texas PAEMST awardee for secondary mathematics

00:27:52.050 --> 00:27:54.210
is Wanda "Jean" Streepey.

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Ms. Streepey has been an educator for 13 years.

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She currently teaches seventh grade accelerated mathematics

00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.500
and serves on the instructional leadership team

00:28:03.500 --> 00:28:05.500
at Highland Park Middle School.

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:06.500
Previously she taught at

00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:10.520
McCulloch Intermediate School for six years.

00:28:10.520 --> 00:28:13.700
Ms. Streepey served as a Team Lead and a Critical Friend

00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:15.830
for the US Department of Education's

00:28:15.830 --> 00:28:19.260
Teach to Lead Summits on Innovation and STEAM.

00:28:19.260 --> 00:28:21.680
In 2016, she was the Secondary Teacher of the Year

00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.290
for the Texas Region 10,

00:28:23.290 --> 00:28:25.490
which represents 80 school districts

00:28:25.490 --> 00:28:28.360
and over 50,000 teachers in the Dallas Area.

00:28:30.671 --> 00:28:33.671
(audience applauds)

00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.560
The 2017 PAEMST awardee for secondary science

00:28:41.560 --> 00:28:44.440
is Dolores "Lollie" Garay.

00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.630
Ms. Garay has been an educator for 48 years,

00:28:47.630 --> 00:28:49.320
starting her career as a Pre-K teacher

00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:52.920
and eventually spending 30 years at Redd School,

00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.140
where she was Lead Science Teacher,

00:28:55.140 --> 00:28:57.200
Science Projects Coordinator.

00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.310
And currently, she works with

00:28:58.310 --> 00:28:59.500
the Baylor College of Medicine,

00:28:59.500 --> 00:29:01.220
Center for Educational Outreach

00:29:02.749 --> 00:29:06.210
as an instructor in the School of Health Professions.

00:29:06.210 --> 00:29:08.720
There, she writes science curriculum,

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.490
plans and conducts large-scale

00:29:10.490 --> 00:29:12.550
teacher professional development programs,

00:29:12.550 --> 00:29:17.190
and mentors K-12 students in after-school STEM clubs.

00:29:18.338 --> 00:29:21.505
(audience applauding)

00:29:25.040 --> 00:29:26.390
And now for the resolution.

00:29:30.670 --> 00:29:32.670
Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence in

00:29:32.670 --> 00:29:34.310
Mathematics and Science Teaching program

00:29:34.310 --> 00:29:37.190
identifies outstanding mathematics and science teachers

00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:40.180
in each state and the four US jurisdictions; and

00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:42.300
whereas the national selection committees,

00:29:42.300 --> 00:29:44.820
one mathematics finalist and one science finalist

00:29:44.820 --> 00:29:47.390
were selected to represent Texas; and

00:29:47.390 --> 00:29:50.660
whereas these teachers have become Texas national awardees

00:29:50.660 --> 00:29:52.980
for the Presidential Awards for Excellence

00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:55.390
in Mathematics and Science Teaching;

00:29:55.390 --> 00:29:57.160
now, therefore, it be resolved,

00:29:58.050 --> 00:29:59.590
that the Texas State Board of Education

00:29:59.590 --> 00:30:01.800
does hereby extend its congratulations to

00:30:01.800 --> 00:30:05.120
Wanda "Jean" Streepey, Highland Park Middle School,

00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:08.150
Highland Park Independent School District in Dallas, Texas

00:30:08.150 --> 00:30:10.720
for being named the Texas National Awardee

00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.820
in the secondary mathematics category

00:30:12.820 --> 00:30:15.690
and the 2017 Presidential Award;

00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:17.190
and be it further resolved,

00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:19.220
that the Texas State Board of Education

00:30:19.220 --> 00:30:21.180
does hereby extend its congratulations to

00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:25.140
Dolores "Lollie" Garay of Redd School in Houston, Texas

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.000
for being named the Texas National Awardee

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.310
in the secondary science category

00:30:30.310 --> 00:30:32.820
for the 2017 Presidential Award;

00:30:32.820 --> 00:30:33.890
and be it further resolved,

00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:35.390
that this resolution be presented

00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:38.100
to the aforementioned teachers

00:30:38.100 --> 00:30:41.660
for being identified as state and national awardees

00:30:41.660 --> 00:30:44.910
for the 2017 Presidential Awards for Excellence

00:30:44.910 --> 00:30:47.570
in Mathematics and Science Teaching program,

00:30:47.570 --> 00:30:50.270
and that a copy be included in the permanent records

00:30:50.270 --> 00:30:52.270
of the Texas State Board of Education.

00:30:52.270 --> 00:30:55.580
Witness our signatures here in Austin, Texas.

00:30:55.580 --> 00:30:58.190
Dr. Keven Ellis, Chair, and myself,

00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:00.070
Georgina Perez your secretary.

00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:01.186
Congratulations.

00:31:01.186 --> 00:31:04.353
(audience applauding)

00:31:14.470 --> 00:31:17.890
Next we'll call up our 2018 PAEMST National Award winners

00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:19.780
and their SBOE members.

00:31:19.780 --> 00:31:24.210
Ms. Angelica Nino, member Marisa Perez-Diaz

00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:27.150
and Brenda Williams, member Sue Melton-Malone.

00:31:33.590 --> 00:31:37.240
The 2018 Texas PAEMST awardee for elementary mathematics

00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.420
is Angelica Nino.

00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.530
Ms. Nino is a bilingual educator of 19 years

00:31:41.530 --> 00:31:44.530
and a third-grade master bilingual teacher

00:31:44.530 --> 00:31:46.540
at Lorenzo De Zavala Elementary School

00:31:46.540 --> 00:31:49.170
for the past three years.

00:31:49.170 --> 00:31:51.430
She previously taught at Turlington Elementary

00:31:51.430 --> 00:31:52.530
for seven years

00:31:52.530 --> 00:31:54.710
and at Holleman Elementary for nine years.

00:31:54.710 --> 00:31:56.850
As a master teacher, her responsibilities include

00:31:56.850 --> 00:31:59.870
working with the students having the greatest needs,

00:31:59.870 --> 00:32:02.240
providing them extended time,

00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:03.670
tutoring other grade levels,

00:32:03.670 --> 00:32:05.660
and mentoring other teachers.

00:32:05.660 --> 00:32:07.340
Ms. Nino currently teaches at

00:32:07.340 --> 00:32:10.520
Herman T. Jones Elementary School in Waller ISD

00:32:10.520 --> 00:32:13.770
where she is a third grade bilingual teacher.

00:32:15.604 --> 00:32:18.771
(audience applauding)

00:32:22.580 --> 00:32:26.280
The 2018 Texas PAEMST awardee for elementary science

00:32:26.280 --> 00:32:27.940
is Brenda Williams.

00:32:27.940 --> 00:32:30.440
Ms. Williams has been an educator for 20 years

00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.120
and spent the last year teaching fourth and fifth grade STEM

00:32:34.120 --> 00:32:36.320
at Argyle Intermediate School.

00:32:36.320 --> 00:32:38.690
Previously, she taught fifth grade science

00:32:38.690 --> 00:32:41.500
for seven years at Argyle Intermediate.

00:32:41.500 --> 00:32:44.300
She has also taught in DeSoto and Lewisville

00:32:44.300 --> 00:32:45.830
Independent School Districts.

00:32:45.830 --> 00:32:48.740
Ms. Williams has facilitated professional development

00:32:48.740 --> 00:32:52.110
at the Texas Regional Collaborative for science teachers

00:32:52.110 --> 00:32:53.820
at the University of North Texas

00:32:53.820 --> 00:32:55.660
and was the keynote speaker

00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:59.780
for the statewide 2015 TRC annual meeting.

00:32:59.780 --> 00:33:00.613
She was named

00:33:00.613 --> 00:33:02.560
Argyle Independent School District Teacher of the Year,

00:33:02.560 --> 00:33:03.770
a two-time finalist for

00:33:03.770 --> 00:33:06.290
the HEB Excellence in Education Award,

00:33:06.290 --> 00:33:08.500
a recipient of the Ernest and Sarah Butler Awards

00:33:08.500 --> 00:33:10.560
for Excellence in Science Teaching,

00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:12.300
a Texas PTA Lifetime Member,

00:33:12.300 --> 00:33:15.470
and was recognized by the Texas Senate

00:33:15.470 --> 00:33:18.120
for excellence in science teaching.

00:33:18.120 --> 00:33:19.282
Congratulations.

00:33:19.282 --> 00:33:22.449
(audience applauding)

00:33:23.600 --> 00:33:24.950
And now for the resolution.

00:33:25.870 --> 00:33:28.250
Whereas the Presidential Awards for Excellence

00:33:28.250 --> 00:33:30.080
in Mathematics and Science Teaching program

00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:33.000
identifies outstanding mathematics and science teachers

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.870
in each state and the four US jurisdictions;

00:33:35.870 --> 00:33:39.000
and whereas through national selection committees,

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.390
one science finalist and one mathematics finalist

00:33:42.390 --> 00:33:44.810
were selected to represent Texas;

00:33:44.810 --> 00:33:46.150
whereas these teachers have become

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:48.440
Texas national awardees for their

00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.010
Presidential Awards for Excellence

00:33:50.010 --> 00:33:52.230
in Mathematics and Science Teaching;

00:33:52.230 --> 00:33:53.860
therefore, be it resolved,

00:33:53.860 --> 00:33:55.230
the Texas State Board of Education

00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:58.790
does hereby extend its congratulations to Ms. Angelica Nino,

00:33:58.790 --> 00:34:00.970
of Lorenzo De Zavala Elementary School

00:34:00.970 --> 00:34:02.820
in San Antonio Independent School District,

00:34:02.820 --> 00:34:04.680
in San Antonio, Texas

00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.830
for being named the Texas National Awardee

00:34:06.830 --> 00:34:08.560
in the elementary mathematics category

00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:11.650
for the 2018 Presidential Award;

00:34:11.650 --> 00:34:12.690
and be it further resolved,

00:34:12.690 --> 00:34:14.110
that the Texas State Board of Education

00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:16.140
does hereby extend its congratulations

00:34:16.140 --> 00:34:18.630
to Brenda Williams, Argyle Intermediate School

00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:22.620
of the Argyle Independent School District in Argyle, Texas

00:34:22.620 --> 00:34:24.870
for being named the Texas National Awardee

00:34:24.870 --> 00:34:26.520
in the elementary science category

00:34:26.520 --> 00:34:29.060
for the 2018 Presidential Award.

00:34:30.130 --> 00:34:31.100
Be it also resolved,

00:34:31.100 --> 00:34:33.060
that this resolution be presented

00:34:33.060 --> 00:34:34.670
to the aforementioned teachers

00:34:34.670 --> 00:34:38.160
for being identified as state and national awardees

00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:40.690
for the 2018 Presidential Awards for Excellence

00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:43.050
in Mathematics and Science Teaching program,

00:34:43.050 --> 00:34:45.570
and that a copy be included in the permanent records

00:34:45.570 --> 00:34:47.860
of the Texas State Board of Education.

00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:52.580
Witness our signatures this 31st day of January, 2020.

00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:54.810
Dr. Keven Ellis, Chair and myself,

00:34:54.810 --> 00:34:56.770
Georgina Perez your secretary.

00:34:56.770 --> 00:34:57.946
Congratulations.

00:34:57.946 --> 00:35:01.113
(audience applauding)

00:35:13.257 --> 00:35:15.500
Much like our Milken Award this morning

00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:17.650
I have been asked to take a breath

00:35:17.650 --> 00:35:18.700
and read slower.

00:35:19.575 --> 00:35:20.841
(audience laughing)

00:35:20.841 --> 00:35:22.540
<v ->And while you're taking a quick breath</v>

00:35:22.540 --> 00:35:24.630
I am gonna call on Ms. Martinez for just one second.

00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:25.540
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Just a quick announcement as we finish this up.

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.100
We wanted to make sure that you all were aware

00:35:31.100 --> 00:35:35.750
that we are in the process of nominating educators

00:35:35.750 --> 00:35:38.740
for this particular award this spring.

00:35:38.740 --> 00:35:41.790
And so we thought that it might be helpful

00:35:41.790 --> 00:35:43.790
if we provided you with some information.

00:35:43.790 --> 00:35:45.310
I know many of you have newsletters

00:35:45.310 --> 00:35:49.090
that you send out to constituents in your districts.

00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.910
And so we've provided you with a blue folder

00:35:51.910 --> 00:35:53.300
that will be in your boxes

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:56.090
that includes information on how to nominate,

00:35:56.090 --> 00:35:58.770
information about the application process.

00:35:58.770 --> 00:36:00.830
And then staff has also put together

00:36:00.830 --> 00:36:03.160
a document that will show you

00:36:03.160 --> 00:36:05.880
how many nominations we've received to date

00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.280
from each of your districts.

00:36:08.490 --> 00:36:10.930
As it is a very rigorous process

00:36:10.930 --> 00:36:13.350
and a small percentage of nominees

00:36:13.350 --> 00:36:15.870
will actually complete the application process.

00:36:15.870 --> 00:36:18.660
But we thought it might be helpful for you to know

00:36:18.660 --> 00:36:20.880
in the event that you'd like to recruit

00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.610
and encourage these great math and science teachers

00:36:23.610 --> 00:36:26.620
in your districts to consider applying

00:36:26.620 --> 00:36:28.890
or administrators to consider nominating.

00:36:36.220 --> 00:36:38.070
<v ->Next we will have a resolution honoring</v>

00:36:38.070 --> 00:36:40.380
the 2019 recipients of the

00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:44.370
Employers for Education Excellence Awards.

00:36:44.370 --> 00:36:47.720
I'm gonna call on the employer and their member.

00:36:47.720 --> 00:36:50.090
Toyota of Boerne, member Ken Mercer.

00:36:51.010 --> 00:36:54.600
Haynes and Boone Law Firm, member Pam Little.

00:36:54.600 --> 00:36:57.420
Southwest Airlines, Dallas Fire and Rescue,

00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:58.840
member, Aicha Davis.

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.300
Thomson Reuters, Accenture, member Pam Hardy.

00:37:06.020 --> 00:37:07.510
Pat Hardy, did I say Pam?

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.233
Did I?

00:37:11.233 --> 00:37:14.180
My apologies, Ms. Pat Hardy.

00:37:18.770 --> 00:37:20.160
Pricewaterhouse Coopers,

00:37:21.490 --> 00:37:24.490
members Pam Little and Aicha Davis.

00:37:24.490 --> 00:37:25.940
Please join us in the circle.

00:37:33.620 --> 00:37:36.740
We have seven employers who today will receive

00:37:36.740 --> 00:37:39.980
the 2019 Employers for Education Excellence Award

00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:43.710
for their support of parents and Texas schools.

00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:47.030
Created in 2007 by legislation

00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:50.040
the award recognizes three levels of support,

00:37:50.040 --> 00:37:52.260
Gold, Silver and Bronze.

00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:54.900
Three employers this year earned the Gold Award,

00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:58.130
two employers earned the Silver Award

00:37:58.130 --> 00:38:00.890
and two earned the Bronze Award.

00:38:00.890 --> 00:38:02.960
Awardees, when I read about your support

00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.270
of our public schools

00:38:04.270 --> 00:38:06.420
please step forward for your photographs.

00:38:13.550 --> 00:38:15.680
And now the resolution.

00:38:15.680 --> 00:38:17.030
Whereas parents and employers

00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:20.550
play a key role in supporting public schools;

00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:22.100
and whereas mentoring children

00:38:22.100 --> 00:38:25.260
can have a lifelong impact on students' lives;

00:38:25.260 --> 00:38:27.630
whereas the Texas Legislature recognized

00:38:27.630 --> 00:38:31.110
this important school-parent-business partnership

00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:33.120
when it directed the Texas State Board of Education

00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:36.350
to create the Employers for Education Excellence Award

00:38:36.350 --> 00:38:37.930
in 2007;

00:38:37.930 --> 00:38:41.150
and whereas Toyota of Boerne Texas,

00:38:41.150 --> 00:38:43.550
the Haynes and Boone law firm,

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:45.750
and Southwest Airlines are recipients of

00:38:45.750 --> 00:38:50.720
the 2019 Employers for Education Excellence Gold level award

00:38:50.720 --> 00:38:52.700
for their extensive involvement

00:38:52.700 --> 00:38:55.260
with their communities' schools.

00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:57.480
Whereas Toyota of Boerne supports

00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.080
the Boerne Independent School District

00:38:59.080 --> 00:39:01.140
by providing auto parts and vehicles

00:39:01.140 --> 00:39:04.780
to the district's automotive program;

00:39:04.780 --> 00:39:07.850
science, technology, engineering, and math classes;

00:39:07.850 --> 00:39:10.050
and FFA chapter and its employees

00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:13.830
have donated 300 hours of volunteer service.

00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:18.070
And whereas the Haynes and Boone law firm

00:39:18.070 --> 00:39:20.440
collaborates with Dallas ISD's

00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.620
L.G. Pinkston High School's law practicum,

00:39:23.620 --> 00:39:26.040
engages with students from middle school to college

00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:29.050
to increase the diversity of the legal provision,

00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:31.620
and supports a flexible environment

00:39:31.620 --> 00:39:34.860
that allows parents to participate in school activities.

00:39:37.570 --> 00:39:40.610
And whereas Southwest Airlines

00:39:40.610 --> 00:39:44.960
partners with North Dallas High School's P-Tech program,

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.010
sponsors an Adopt-A-Pilot program

00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:49.960
that brings aviators into the classrooms,

00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.410
offers employees the "freedom to flex" work hours

00:39:53.410 --> 00:39:55.410
so they can attend school events;

00:39:55.410 --> 00:39:59.290
and donates round-trip tickets to non-profit organizations

00:39:59.290 --> 00:40:01.980
for every 40 hours of volunteer time.

00:40:05.560 --> 00:40:09.190
And whereas the Dallas Fire-Rescue Department and Accenture

00:40:09.190 --> 00:40:12.450
are recipients of the silver level award

00:40:12.450 --> 00:40:14.360
for their student mentoring programs

00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.290
and volunteer activities.

00:40:16.290 --> 00:40:19.360
And whereas the Dallas Fire and Rescue Department

00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.930
works with Dallas ISD's P-Tech program,

00:40:21.930 --> 00:40:22.770
mentors students

00:40:22.770 --> 00:40:25.810
and sponsors a Fire-Rescue Explorers Troop

00:40:25.810 --> 00:40:28.200
in which student learn basic knowledge

00:40:28.200 --> 00:40:29.500
about the fire service,

00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:32.030
including emergency medical services.

00:40:35.220 --> 00:40:37.680
And whereas Accenture partners with

00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:41.177
Dallas ISD's P-Tech program at work with

00:40:41.177 --> 00:40:43.720
Seagoville, is this how you say this?

00:40:43.720 --> 00:40:46.620
Seagoville High School and works with

00:40:46.620 --> 00:40:49.910
Bridges from School to Work program

00:40:49.910 --> 00:40:52.800
to help prepare young people with disabilities

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:53.820
for employment.

00:40:54.670 --> 00:40:57.720
And whereas Pricewaterhouse Coopers and Thomson Reuters

00:40:57.720 --> 00:41:00.510
are recognized as bronze award recipients

00:41:00.510 --> 00:41:05.230
for their family-and-school friendly volunteer policies.

00:41:05.230 --> 00:41:07.250
Whereas Pricewaterhouse Coopers assists with

00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:09.140
career development and mentoring activities

00:41:09.140 --> 00:41:11.680
in the James Madison High School P-Tech program

00:41:11.680 --> 00:41:15.200
in Dallas ISD and makes discretionary volunteer time

00:41:15.200 --> 00:41:17.400
to employees, which can be used

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.730
to support school activities.

00:41:19.730 --> 00:41:23.200
And whereas Thomson Reuters is a signature partner

00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:25.640
with Dallas ISD's P-Tech program

00:41:25.640 --> 00:41:28.500
where it actively engages in mentorship activities

00:41:28.500 --> 00:41:30.410
and provides grants to schools

00:41:30.410 --> 00:41:32.610
and other non-profit organizations

00:41:32.610 --> 00:41:36.900
when employees donate 20 or more hours of their time.

00:41:37.850 --> 00:41:39.930
And whereas school districts and charter schools

00:41:39.930 --> 00:41:42.070
that encourage parental and community involvement

00:41:42.070 --> 00:41:44.220
are vital components of this program;

00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:46.050
now therefore, it be resolved

00:41:47.180 --> 00:41:48.870
that the Texas State Board of Education

00:41:48.870 --> 00:41:51.410
urges Texas businesses to look upon these

00:41:51.410 --> 00:41:55.110
seven Employers for Education Excellence award recipients

00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.670
as role models for civic engagement;

00:41:57.670 --> 00:41:59.670
and be it further resolved

00:41:59.670 --> 00:42:02.120
that the Texas State Board of Education today awards

00:42:02.120 --> 00:42:06.010
Toyota of Boerne, Haynes and Boone, Southwest Airlines,

00:42:06.010 --> 00:42:08.550
Dallas Fire-Rescue Department, Accenture,

00:42:08.550 --> 00:42:11.270
Pricewaterhouse Coopers, and the Thomson Reuters

00:42:11.270 --> 00:42:15.440
with the 2019 Employers for Excellence Education Award

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.500
for their generous and continuing support

00:42:18.500 --> 00:42:21.130
of Texas students and teachers.

00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:25.780
Witness our signatures this 31st day of January, 2020,

00:42:25.780 --> 00:42:27.510
in Austin, Texas.

00:42:27.510 --> 00:42:29.280
Chair, Dr. Keven Ellis;

00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.100
Secretary, Georgina Perez.

00:42:31.100 --> 00:42:32.485
Congratulations.

00:42:32.485 --> 00:42:35.652
(audience applauding)

00:42:37.093 --> 00:42:41.010
(people speaking indistinctly)

00:44:09.910 --> 00:44:11.210
You wanna keep going?

00:44:19.570 --> 00:44:21.180
Today we are also celebrating

00:44:21.180 --> 00:44:24.310
more than 1.4 million Texas public school students

00:44:24.310 --> 00:44:27.980
who are enrolled in career and technical courses this year.

00:44:27.980 --> 00:44:30.300
Sometimes you hear people say that it's a shame

00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:33.110
that no one takes vocational courses anymore.

00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:36.070
Well, evidenced by the numerous students

00:44:36.070 --> 00:44:38.730
and their state leadership and their sponsors

00:44:38.730 --> 00:44:42.330
please realize, that's not true in Texas.

00:44:42.330 --> 00:44:44.300
More than 200 career and technical courses

00:44:44.300 --> 00:44:46.800
are available to students across this state.

00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.580
The courses include topics ranging from:

00:44:49.580 --> 00:44:52.860
equine science to graphic design to pipe fitting.

00:44:52.860 --> 00:44:55.410
We have more students enrolled in CTE classes

00:44:55.410 --> 00:44:58.360
then some states have total students.

00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.270
Not only do these courses teach a topic

00:45:00.270 --> 00:45:03.440
they also teach a lot of leadership skills.

00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:05.630
Today we are pleased to have student leaders

00:45:05.630 --> 00:45:09.140
and sponsors from eight CTE organizations

00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:10.210
here with us today.

00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:13.750
First I want to introduce Sarah Montgomery

00:45:13.750 --> 00:45:16.170
of the Not Your Ordinary School

00:45:16.170 --> 00:45:19.450
and Dawson Killen of the Crandall FFA Chapter

00:45:19.450 --> 00:45:21.720
to join me here at the podium.

00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:22.553
Sarah,

00:45:24.140 --> 00:45:25.370
good morning Sarah,

00:45:25.370 --> 00:45:26.310
is the President of the

00:45:26.310 --> 00:45:29.990
Texas Association of Future Educators.

00:45:29.990 --> 00:45:31.930
And Dawson is the state vice President

00:45:31.930 --> 00:45:34.700
for the Area V FFA Association.

00:45:34.700 --> 00:45:37.830
And our student leaders are going to read

00:45:37.830 --> 00:45:39.870
the last resolution of the day.

00:45:44.928 --> 00:45:48.178
(Ms. Perez whispering)

00:45:53.220 --> 00:45:57.960
<v ->Whereas February 1 through 29, 2020, has been designated</v>

00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.430
National Career and Technical Education Month;

00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.760
<v ->And whereas about 1,424,391 Texas secondary students</v>

00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:10.100
are enrolled in one or more

00:46:10.100 --> 00:46:13.620
career and technical education, CTE, courses

00:46:13.620 --> 00:46:16.720
in 1,200 school districts and charter schools

00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:18.660
throughout the State; and

00:46:18.660 --> 00:46:22.130
<v ->Whereas career and technical education offers students</v>

00:46:22.130 --> 00:46:25.710
the opportunity to gain the academic, technical

00:46:25.710 --> 00:46:28.430
and employability skills necessary

00:46:28.430 --> 00:46:30.540
for true career readiness.

00:46:30.540 --> 00:46:32.200
<v ->And whereas students</v>

00:46:32.200 --> 00:46:34.520
in career and technical education programs

00:46:34.520 --> 00:46:37.760
participate in authentic, meaningful experiences

00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.520
which improve the quality of their education

00:46:40.520 --> 00:46:43.810
by offering opportunities to apply academic knowledge

00:46:43.810 --> 00:46:47.150
and skills from across the curriculum; and

00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:49.840
<v ->Whereas career and technical education</v>

00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.650
is a vital and integral part

00:46:51.650 --> 00:46:53.850
of the Foundation High School Program,

00:46:53.850 --> 00:46:57.250
offering students pathways to earn recognized endorsements,

00:46:57.250 --> 00:46:58.790
performance acknowledgements

00:46:58.790 --> 00:47:01.740
and industry-validated credentials; and

00:47:01.740 --> 00:47:04.030
<v ->Whereas Texas is proud to support</v>

00:47:04.030 --> 00:47:06.990
nine CTE student organizations:

00:47:06.990 --> 00:47:09.070
Business Professionals of America;

00:47:09.070 --> 00:47:11.630
the Texas Association of DECA;

00:47:11.630 --> 00:47:13.230
Educators Rising;

00:47:13.230 --> 00:47:15.380
Future Business Leaders of America;

00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:18.540
Family, Career and Community Leaders of America;

00:47:18.540 --> 00:47:20.930
the Texas FFA Association;

00:47:20.930 --> 00:47:23.360
Health Occupations Students of America;

00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:28.360
SkillsUSA; and Texas Technology Student Association; and

00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:31.690
<v ->Whereas career and technical education programs</v>

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:34.190
prepare students for fulfilling careers

00:47:34.190 --> 00:47:36.790
by offering integrated programs of study

00:47:36.790 --> 00:47:40.290
that link secondary and post-secondary education

00:47:40.290 --> 00:47:44.050
and significantly contribute to college readiness; and

00:47:44.050 --> 00:47:47.190
<v ->Whereas ensuring the employers have access to</v>

00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:49.970
a qualified workforce is a crucial step

00:47:49.970 --> 00:47:51.600
in ensuring productivity

00:47:51.600 --> 00:47:53.900
among the business and industry communities

00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:57.050
as well as continued American economic growth

00:47:57.050 --> 00:48:01.260
and global competitiveness; now, therefore,

00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:04.180
<v ->Be it resolved, that the State Board of Education,</v>

00:48:04.180 --> 00:48:07.960
which has been designated by the Texas Legislature

00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:11.180
as the State Board for Career and Technical Education,

00:48:11.180 --> 00:48:15.020
does hereby proclaim February 1st through 29th, 2020

00:48:15.020 --> 00:48:18.010
as Career and Technical Education Month in Texas,

00:48:18.010 --> 00:48:20.110
and does hereby urge all Texans

00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:22.800
to become familiar with the outstanding curriculum

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.300
delivered by exceptional

00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:26.570
career and technical education teachers

00:48:26.570 --> 00:48:28.650
in communities across the state,

00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:31.010
and to support and participate in these programs

00:48:31.010 --> 00:48:34.010
to enhance individual skills and productivity.

00:48:35.530 --> 00:48:36.363
Thank you.

00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:40.687
(audience applauding)

00:49:20.530 --> 00:49:21.960
<v ->Representing DECA,</v>

00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.360
Sikyra Castle.

00:49:24.604 --> 00:49:25.730
How do I say the last name?
<v ->Bou-Saada.</v>

00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:27.760
<v ->Chris Bou-Saada.</v>

00:49:31.324 --> 00:49:34.491
(audience applauding)

00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:42.113
All right.

00:49:42.113 --> 00:49:45.650
Representing the Texas Technology Student Associations,

00:49:45.650 --> 00:49:47.520
President Mary Katherine Smith

00:49:47.520 --> 00:49:50.030
and Vice President Sam Jacobs.

00:49:50.947 --> 00:49:54.114
(audience applauding)

00:50:01.230 --> 00:50:03.400
Representing the Business Professionals of America,

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:04.750
Dion Simmons, State President,

00:50:04.750 --> 00:50:07.860
and Emily Ramzinski, State Historian.

00:50:08.989 --> 00:50:12.156
(audience applauding)

00:50:21.290 --> 00:50:25.090
Representing the Texas Association of Future Educators

00:50:25.090 --> 00:50:27.660
Denisse Cabrera and Hannah Pardee.

00:50:28.768 --> 00:50:31.935
(audience applauding)

00:50:40.650 --> 00:50:44.970
Representing the FBLA, Corbin Lubianski

00:50:44.970 --> 00:50:47.560
and Alice Liang?

00:50:47.560 --> 00:50:48.531
<v ->Yeah.</v>

00:50:48.531 --> 00:50:49.923
(audience laughs)

00:50:49.923 --> 00:50:53.403
<v ->How do I say it?</v>
<v ->Just like that.</v>

00:50:55.357 --> 00:50:58.524
(audience applauding)

00:51:04.720 --> 00:51:06.960
<v ->Representing FFCLA,</v>

00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.290
Elizabeth Halfmann and Bellamy Wooten.

00:51:11.466 --> 00:51:14.633
(audience applauding)

00:51:22.610 --> 00:51:24.650
And representing HOSA,

00:51:24.650 --> 00:51:27.624
Brandon Clark and Brianna Martinez.

00:51:27.624 --> 00:51:30.791
(audience applauding)

00:53:46.970 --> 00:53:47.990
<v ->All right members,</v>

00:53:47.990 --> 00:53:50.220
we do need to adopt the resolutions

00:53:50.220 --> 00:53:52.370
as presented today.

00:53:52.370 --> 00:53:54.720
Is there any objection to adopting

00:53:54.720 --> 00:53:56.770
all the resolutions as presented?

00:53:57.910 --> 00:53:59.700
Hearing none, so adopted.

00:54:16.795 --> 00:54:19.878
<v Board Member>We can take a break?</v>

00:54:30.700 --> 00:54:32.610
<v ->We're gonna take a quick two or three minute break</v>

00:54:32.610 --> 00:54:34.760
as we make the transition to the next part.

00:54:43.481 --> 00:54:45.820
All right members we're gonna come back to order.

00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:46.720
I've been asked,

00:54:46.720 --> 00:54:49.190
there are still a few amendments we're working on

00:54:49.190 --> 00:54:51.840
that will be part of the committee of the full board.

00:54:52.930 --> 00:54:57.800
So what we are going to do is skip for now,

00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.600
or move past the Committee of the Full Board items

00:55:01.600 --> 00:55:04.450
and move on to item number 10,

00:55:04.450 --> 00:55:06.930
which is on the Committee on Instruction.

00:55:06.930 --> 00:55:09.050
And we will get back to the Committee of the Full Board

00:55:09.050 --> 00:55:12.470
after we do each of our other committees.

00:55:12.470 --> 00:55:13.680
<v Board Member>Chairman,</v>

00:55:13.680 --> 00:55:15.660
I think you have the consent agenda,

00:55:15.660 --> 00:55:17.140
<v ->Oh, I'm sorry.</v>
<v ->First.</v>

00:55:17.140 --> 00:55:18.330
<v ->Thank you.</v>
<v ->Yes sir.</v>

00:55:18.330 --> 00:55:19.163
<v ->Jumped ahead.</v>

00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:21.820
So actually we're on item number two

00:55:21.820 --> 00:55:24.020
which is the approval of the consent agenda.

00:55:25.150 --> 00:55:29.770
Members you have the consent agenda in your packet.

00:55:29.770 --> 00:55:31.780
Are there are any requests to remove

00:55:31.780 --> 00:55:34.430
any of the items from the consent agenda?

00:55:38.750 --> 00:55:41.658
Is there any objection to approving

00:55:41.658 --> 00:55:44.780
the consent agenda as presented?

00:55:46.100 --> 00:55:48.070
Hearing none, the consent is adopted.

00:55:50.620 --> 00:55:52.930
So now we will move to item number 10

00:55:52.930 --> 00:55:54.670
on the Committee of Instruction.

00:55:54.670 --> 00:55:56.720
And I will call on Ms. Sue Melton-Malone.

00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:00.870
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chair.</v>

00:56:00.870 --> 00:56:02.500
If you will get your minutes

00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:04.350
from the Committee on Instruction.

00:56:05.860 --> 00:56:08.760
Page one is our first action item.

00:56:09.630 --> 00:56:13.530
It is the proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74

00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:16.430
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter C,

00:56:16.430 --> 00:56:20.490
Other Provisions, 74.26, Award of Credit.

00:56:20.490 --> 00:56:22.690
And it's second reading and filing adoption.

00:56:23.600 --> 00:56:26.300
Mr. Chair I move on behalf of the Committee on Instruction

00:56:26.300 --> 00:56:28.360
that the State Board of Education

00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.820
approve for second reading and filing adoption

00:56:30.820 --> 00:56:34.390
the proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74

00:56:34.390 --> 00:56:37.280
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter C,

00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:41.830
Other Provisions, 74.26, Award of Credit

00:56:41.830 --> 00:56:43.590
and make an affirmative finding

00:56:43.590 --> 00:56:46.200
that immediate adoption of proposed amendment

00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:50.340
to 19 TAC Chapter 74, Curriculum Requirements,

00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:52.830
Subchapter C, Other Provisions,

00:56:52.830 --> 00:56:57.180
74.26, Award of Credit is necessary

00:56:57.180 --> 00:57:00.180
and shall have an effective date of 20 days after filing

00:57:00.180 --> 00:57:02.110
as adopted with the Texas Register.

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.330
<v ->For Texas Education Code 7.102 F</v>

00:57:14.330 --> 00:57:15.920
a vote of two-thirds of the members of the board

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.670
is necessary for an earlier effective date.

00:57:19.670 --> 00:57:20.880
Those in--

00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:21.970
Is there any debate?

00:57:25.250 --> 00:57:27.160
Those in favor please raise your hand.

00:57:32.130 --> 00:57:34.920
Those opposed please raise your hand.

00:57:46.262 --> 00:57:48.380
Okay, there are two-thirds in favor

00:57:48.380 --> 00:57:50.280
and the recommendation is adopted.

00:57:51.650 --> 00:57:53.290
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chair.</v>

00:57:53.290 --> 00:57:55.740
On page two, at the top of page.

00:57:57.390 --> 00:58:00.500
Proposed Amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 117,

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:03.100
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Fine Arts,

00:58:03.100 --> 00:58:07.400
Subchapter C, High School, 117.312,

00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.350
Music, Level III One Credit,

00:58:09.350 --> 00:58:13.370
Adopted 2013; 117.313,

00:58:13.370 --> 00:58:17.470
Music, Level IV One Credit, Adopted 2013;

00:58:17.470 --> 00:58:22.470
and 117.314, Music Studies One Credit, Adopted 2013.

00:58:22.650 --> 00:58:26.230
This is for second reading and final adoption.

00:58:26.230 --> 00:58:28.050
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction

00:58:28.050 --> 00:58:29.910
I move that the State Board of Education

00:58:29.910 --> 00:58:32.650
approve for second reading and filing adoption

00:58:32.650 --> 00:58:36.220
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 117,

00:58:36.220 --> 00:58:39.330
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Fine Arts,

00:58:39.330 --> 00:58:44.080
Subchapter C, High School, 117.312,

00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:48.080
Music, Level III One Credit, Adopted 2013;

00:58:48.080 --> 00:58:50.130
117.313,

00:58:50.130 --> 00:58:53.680
Music, Level IV One Credit, Adopted 2013;

00:58:53.680 --> 00:58:58.680
and 117.314, Music Studies One Credit, Adopted 2013.

00:59:00.110 --> 00:59:01.700
And make an affirmative finding

00:59:01.700 --> 00:59:04.220
that immediate adoption of the proposed amendments

00:59:04.220 --> 00:59:07.070
to 19 TAC, Chapter 117,

00:59:07.070 --> 00:59:09.660
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Fine Arts,

00:59:09.660 --> 00:59:13.880
Subchapter C, High School, 117.312,

00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:17.680
Music, Level II One Credit, Adopted 2013;

00:59:17.680 --> 00:59:21.670
117.313, Music, Level I One C--

00:59:21.670 --> 00:59:25.610
Music, Level IV One Credit, Adopted 2013;

00:59:25.610 --> 00:59:30.610
and 117.314, Music Studies One Credit, Adopted 2013

00:59:31.060 --> 00:59:33.400
is necessary and shall have an effective date

00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.100
of August 1st, 2020.

00:59:39.580 --> 00:59:43.000
<v ->Per TEC 7.102 F a vote of two-thirds</v>

00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.400
of the members of the board is necessary

00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:45.920
for an early effective date.

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.620
Is there any debate on the motion?

00:59:50.234 --> 00:59:52.684
All right, those in favor please raise your hand.

01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.800
Those opposed please raise your hand.

01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:15.430
There are two-thirds in favor

01:00:15.430 --> 01:00:17.300
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:22.070
<v ->All right, number three, also on page two.</v>

01:00:22.070 --> 01:00:26.340
This is the proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 110.

01:00:26.340 --> 01:00:28.110
I'm just gonna go ahead and read the motion.

01:00:28.110 --> 01:00:30.310
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction

01:00:30.310 --> 01:00:33.120
I move that the State Board of Education

01:00:33.120 --> 01:00:35.080
suspend the board operating rules

01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:38.080
in accordance with section 5.2 A

01:00:38.080 --> 01:00:40.350
and allow consideration at first reading

01:00:40.350 --> 01:00:42.200
and filing authorization

01:00:42.200 --> 01:00:44.980
and approve for first reading and filing authorization

01:00:44.980 --> 01:00:48.790
the proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 110,

01:00:48.790 --> 01:00:50.560
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:52.660
for English Language Arts and Reading,

01:00:52.660 --> 01:00:55.873
Subchapter C, High School, sections 110.30

01:00:58.995 --> 01:01:01.440
through 110.34,

01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.920
and Subchapter D, Other High School English Language Arts

01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:09.920
and Reading Courses, section 110.85, and Chapter 128,

01:01:10.030 --> 01:01:11.840
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.210
for Spanish Language Arts and Reading

01:01:14.210 --> 01:01:16.070
and English as a Second Language,

01:01:16.070 --> 01:01:20.680
Subchapter C, High School, sections 128.30

01:01:20.680 --> 01:01:22.650
through 128.32.

01:01:27.002 --> 01:01:29.330
<v ->Okay members, also per TEC 7.102 F</v>

01:01:31.470 --> 01:01:33.110
a vote of two-thirds of the members of the board

01:01:33.110 --> 01:01:34.810
is necessary to suspend the rules.

01:01:35.970 --> 01:01:37.670
Is there any debate on the motion?

01:01:40.322 --> 01:01:41.155
I'm hearing none.

01:01:41.155 --> 01:01:43.010
Those in favor please raise your hand.

01:01:50.180 --> 01:01:52.030
Those opposed please raise your hand.

01:01:56.510 --> 01:01:57.610
There are two-thirds in favor

01:01:57.610 --> 01:01:59.780
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:01:59.780 --> 01:02:01.160
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:04.360
Number four, the motion is on the top of page three.

01:02:06.740 --> 01:02:08.650
This is State Adoption and Distribution

01:02:08.650 --> 01:02:11.110
of Instructional Materials, General Provisions,

01:02:11.110 --> 01:02:14.380
and the State Adoption of Instructional Materials,

01:02:14.380 --> 01:02:16.200
Local Operations.

01:02:16.200 --> 01:02:17.980
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction

01:02:17.980 --> 01:02:19.890
I move that the State Board of Education

01:02:19.890 --> 01:02:23.710
adopt the review of 19 TAC Chapter 66,

01:02:23.710 --> 01:02:26.780
State Adoption and Distribution of Instructional Materials,

01:02:26.780 --> 01:02:29.190
Subchapter A, General Provisions,

01:02:29.190 --> 01:02:32.660
Subchapter B, State Adoption of Instructional Materials,

01:02:32.660 --> 01:02:35.270
and Subchapter C, Local Operations.

01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:47.950
<v ->All right, this one does not require a two-thirds vote.</v>

01:02:47.950 --> 01:02:49.650
Is there any debate on the motion?

01:02:51.830 --> 01:02:54.330
Hearing none, those in favor please say, "Aye."

01:02:54.330 --> 01:02:55.163
<v Members>Aye.</v>

01:02:55.163 --> 01:02:56.330
<v ->Those opposed say, "No."</v>

01:02:57.830 --> 01:02:59.130
There is a majority in favor

01:02:59.130 --> 01:03:00.830
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:03:02.180 --> 01:03:03.740
<v ->On that same page, page three</v>

01:03:03.740 --> 01:03:04.740
I'm gonna skip five,

01:03:04.740 --> 01:03:06.520
I'll come back to it in just a moment,

01:03:06.520 --> 01:03:07.840
but number six is

01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.630
the Proposed Approval of Innovative Courses.

01:03:13.122 --> 01:03:14.730
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction

01:03:14.730 --> 01:03:16.590
I move that the State Board of Education

01:03:16.590 --> 01:03:19.060
approve for a period of five years

01:03:19.060 --> 01:03:20.800
the following innovative courses

01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.660
that do not fall within any of the subject areas

01:03:23.660 --> 01:03:26.690
of the foundation or enrichment curriculum:

01:03:26.690 --> 01:03:29.180
advanced placement seminar;

01:03:29.180 --> 01:03:31.710
advanced placement research;

01:03:31.710 --> 01:03:34.810
gifted talented inter-disciplinary studies;

01:03:34.810 --> 01:03:38.150
mentor seminar I-4;

01:03:38.150 --> 01:03:40.470
logic one and logic two.

01:03:43.770 --> 01:03:46.360
<v ->All right, this one is also not a two-thirds majority.</v>

01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:50.000
So is there any further debate on this item?

01:03:51.710 --> 01:03:52.543
Hearing none.

01:03:52.543 --> 01:03:54.410
Those in favor please say, "Aye."

01:03:54.410 --> 01:03:55.243
<v Members>Aye.</v>

01:03:55.243 --> 01:03:56.490
<v ->Those opposed please say, "No."</v>

01:03:57.560 --> 01:03:58.790
There is a majority in favor

01:03:58.790 --> 01:04:00.610
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:04:01.810 --> 01:04:03.860
<v ->Now I'd like to move back to number five.</v>

01:04:03.860 --> 01:04:06.110
Just as a point of information for you all,

01:04:06.110 --> 01:04:07.770
this was on our agenda.

01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:09.593
And we,

01:04:10.690 --> 01:04:12.930
had quite a bit of discussion about it.

01:04:12.930 --> 01:04:14.800
There is a company,

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.870
a mathematics company for K through five,

01:04:17.870 --> 01:04:22.870
that has made some changes in their textbooks

01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:25.310
and in their consumables.

01:04:25.310 --> 01:04:28.320
And they did not get approval to do that.

01:04:29.310 --> 01:04:31.190
This has been going on for a while

01:04:31.190 --> 01:04:33.250
and staff has worked with them.

01:04:33.250 --> 01:04:36.780
And they tell us they're going to

01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.090
comply with what we need to have done.

01:04:40.090 --> 01:04:41.110
And they,

01:04:41.110 --> 01:04:42.770
staff has gotten no response

01:04:42.770 --> 01:04:45.160
as far as the actual product.

01:04:45.160 --> 01:04:49.510
So we discussed with Von some different options

01:04:49.510 --> 01:04:51.750
that we, as a board, might take.

01:04:51.750 --> 01:04:54.490
And they are going to put all those options together

01:04:54.490 --> 01:04:56.420
and bring them back to us in April

01:04:56.420 --> 01:04:58.490
through the Committee on Instruction.

01:04:58.490 --> 01:05:00.600
And we will then make a decision

01:05:00.600 --> 01:05:02.050
and bring it before the board

01:05:03.622 --> 01:05:05.800
as to what we,

01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:07.340
as to what we need to do

01:05:07.340 --> 01:05:10.390
in regard to this company being non-compliant

01:05:10.390 --> 01:05:14.840
and has been non-compliant for several years.

01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.020
So this is not something that just came up overnight.

01:05:18.020 --> 01:05:20.670
This is something, an ongoing thing.

01:05:20.670 --> 01:05:23.430
And we, as the Committee on Instruction, felt like

01:05:23.430 --> 01:05:26.200
we would need to be taking some action

01:05:26.200 --> 01:05:29.300
to let them know that

01:05:29.300 --> 01:05:30.740
the rules have to be followed

01:05:30.740 --> 01:05:31.920
and to also set a--

01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.550
We didn't want to not do anything about this

01:05:35.550 --> 01:05:37.110
and set that kind of precedent.

01:05:37.110 --> 01:05:40.410
So we will be coming back to you in April

01:05:40.410 --> 01:05:43.180
with some possibilities of some things

01:05:43.180 --> 01:05:44.830
we might need to do

01:05:44.830 --> 01:05:48.330
in regard to this company and their non-compliance.

01:05:48.330 --> 01:05:49.580
Monica, did I hit it all?

01:05:50.510 --> 01:05:51.790
Okay.

01:05:51.790 --> 01:05:53.270
That's all I have Mr. Chair.

01:05:55.010 --> 01:05:56.670
<v ->Ms. Hardy.</v>

01:05:56.670 --> 01:05:57.650
<v Ms. Hardy>Could you tell</v>

01:05:57.650 --> 01:05:59.300
what was the amount of the fine

01:05:59.300 --> 01:06:02.550
that you could legally levy against them?

01:06:02.550 --> 01:06:03.550
<v Member>$900,000.</v>

01:06:04.850 --> 01:06:07.330
<v ->Mr. Rowley the figure's about $900,000</v>

01:06:08.600 --> 01:06:11.800
for the amount of time that this has been going on.

01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.390
<v ->It's $1,000 a day for every day of non-compliance</v>

01:06:15.390 --> 01:06:17.220
and it's been three years.

01:06:18.310 --> 01:06:22.750
So it's closer to $1,000,000.
<v ->Maybe we can cut a deal.</v>

01:06:23.714 --> 01:06:26.273
<v ->As I said,</v>

01:06:26.273 --> 01:06:29.400
staff, Von is gonna work with them

01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:30.720
and staff is gonna work

01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:34.320
and they're going to come up with the options that

01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:36.580
would be available to us.

01:06:36.580 --> 01:06:39.250
And then we will tentatively make a decision

01:06:39.250 --> 01:06:40.960
in the Committee on Instruction

01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.270
and we will bring that forward to you in April

01:06:43.270 --> 01:06:45.410
so that we can make a board decision

01:06:45.410 --> 01:06:46.770
as to what we need to do

01:06:46.770 --> 01:06:49.100
so that they will know and other companies will know

01:06:49.100 --> 01:06:51.120
that the rules have to be followed.

01:06:52.604 --> 01:06:54.836
(member speaking indistinctly)

01:06:54.836 --> 01:06:56.550
(members laughing)

01:06:56.550 --> 01:06:58.650
<v ->We're gonna have some really good snags.</v>

01:06:59.950 --> 01:07:02.890
<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>
<v ->While we're discussing</v>

01:07:02.890 --> 01:07:05.570
what the potential fines are,

01:07:06.530 --> 01:07:08.970
it should also be noted that

01:07:08.970 --> 01:07:10.990
this has ramifications to our students

01:07:10.990 --> 01:07:12.490
with visual impairment.

01:07:12.490 --> 01:07:17.460
It is focused specifically on braille and large print.

01:07:17.460 --> 01:07:20.250
And so fining results in this

01:07:20.250 --> 01:07:22.050
or not taking action results in that.

01:07:22.050 --> 01:07:25.090
But both options don't lead to

01:07:27.010 --> 01:07:29.300
the necessities of our students

01:07:29.300 --> 01:07:33.580
which is how this came to our attention to begin with.

01:07:33.580 --> 01:07:35.260
And so one of the option,

01:07:35.260 --> 01:07:38.330
or I think the only option that we should consider

01:07:38.330 --> 01:07:41.300
would be, what is in the best interests of our students.

01:07:41.300 --> 01:07:43.380
Because right now, we don't have

01:07:43.380 --> 01:07:45.640
or our classroom teachers and students

01:07:45.640 --> 01:07:47.120
don't have the materials that they need

01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:49.460
as a result of this publisher's

01:07:50.580 --> 01:07:52.500
lack of participation in the process.

01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:55.620
<v ->Mr. Byer can you speak to actually</v>

01:07:55.620 --> 01:07:58.380
where those funds would be returned to?

01:07:58.380 --> 01:08:00.347
<v ->Yeah, so that was a question</v>

01:08:00.347 --> 01:08:02.180
that was coming from committee.

01:08:02.180 --> 01:08:04.910
I'm fairly confident that the funds that are returned

01:08:04.910 --> 01:08:06.817
will go into instructio-- (audio cuts off).

01:08:16.855 --> 01:08:19.396
I'm fairly confident that the funds returned

01:08:19.396 --> 01:08:22.060
will go into the instructional materials fund.

01:08:22.060 --> 01:08:24.140
But we'll have a full,

01:08:26.010 --> 01:08:28.040
a full explanation of that

01:08:28.040 --> 01:08:29.790
when we come back to the committee.

01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:33.620
And then as just a minor point,

01:08:35.480 --> 01:08:38.620
you all have authority under statute to

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:44.470
levy fines and penalties for certain infractions.

01:08:44.470 --> 01:08:45.750
This is not that case.

01:08:45.750 --> 01:08:49.240
This is a case of failure to comply with a contract.

01:08:49.240 --> 01:08:51.490
And so it's not a fine or a penalty

01:08:51.490 --> 01:08:53.050
it is a liquidated damage.

01:08:54.120 --> 01:08:55.230
And,

01:08:55.230 --> 01:08:57.050
I don't know that that matters so much

01:08:57.050 --> 01:08:58.880
for your interpersonal communications

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.990
but just as a point of legality

01:09:01.990 --> 01:09:02.823
it is not a fine,

01:09:02.823 --> 01:09:05.020
it would a liquidity--
<v ->$1,000 a day?</v>

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:06.920
<v ->Correct, you do have a provision</v>

01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.830
that imposes $1,000 liquidated damage per day

01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:13.120
for non-compliance.

01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:16.530
And that's what we'll be exploring for both the

01:09:16.530 --> 01:09:18.010
when you count it

01:09:18.010 --> 01:09:21.700
and its applicability to this particular provision.

01:09:21.700 --> 01:09:25.670
You also have provisions for termination and mediation.

01:09:25.670 --> 01:09:27.350
And there may be some others lurking in there

01:09:27.350 --> 01:09:28.420
that we'll explore.

01:09:29.770 --> 01:09:30.920
<v ->And for clarification 'cause I think</v>

01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:32.490
your microphone may have been going in and out

01:09:32.490 --> 01:09:34.800
the fine would go, as you understand it,

01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:35.930
to instructional material fund?

01:09:35.930 --> 01:09:39.350
<v ->Yes, that's my current belief.</v>

01:09:39.350 --> 01:09:40.830
And I will confirm that

01:09:40.830 --> 01:09:42.986
when we come back to the committee.

01:09:42.986 --> 01:09:44.040
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

01:09:45.660 --> 01:09:48.920
Any other discussion on this matter?

01:09:51.400 --> 01:09:52.233
Okay, seeing none.

01:09:52.233 --> 01:09:54.050
We will move on to Mr. Maynard

01:09:54.050 --> 01:09:56.400
on item number 16, which begins the

01:09:56.400 --> 01:09:57.510
Committee on School Finance

01:09:57.510 --> 01:09:59.010
and the Permanent School Fund.

01:10:00.120 --> 01:10:01.370
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chairman.</v>

01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:04.530
Members if you will find your,

01:10:04.530 --> 01:10:05.760
we're gonna start the,

01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:09.298
of course, you always get two sets of minutes with this.

01:10:09.298 --> 01:10:11.220
We're gonna start with the school finance.

01:10:12.670 --> 01:10:13.503
And so,

01:10:14.660 --> 01:10:17.710
on behalf of the Committee on School Finance

01:10:17.710 --> 01:10:18.640
and Permanent School Fund,

01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.320
this is on page one by the way,

01:10:20.320 --> 01:10:23.760
just about two-thirds of the way down.

01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.290
On behalf of the Committee on School Finance

01:10:26.290 --> 01:10:27.590
and Permanent School Fund,

01:10:29.513 --> 01:10:30.960
I move that the State Board of Education

01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.270
approve for first reading and filing authorization

01:10:33.270 --> 01:10:37.340
the proposed repeal of 19 TAC Chapter 105,

01:10:37.340 --> 01:10:39.450
Foundation School Program, Subchapter B,

01:10:39.450 --> 01:10:41.521
Use of School Funds.

01:10:41.521 --> 01:10:45.438
(member speaking indistinctly)

01:10:47.480 --> 01:10:48.460
And if I can--

01:10:48.460 --> 01:10:50.430
<v ->Yeah, Mr. Maynard is it your intention</v>

01:10:50.430 --> 01:10:52.320
to suspend the board operating procedures

01:10:52.320 --> 01:10:53.890
in accordance with 5.2 A

01:10:53.890 --> 01:10:55.390
to allow consideration at first reading

01:10:55.390 --> 01:10:57.230
of filing authorization?

01:10:57.230 --> 01:11:00.110
<v ->Yes, I guess that did not get put in the minutes.</v>

01:11:00.110 --> 01:11:00.943
Yes.

01:11:00.943 --> 01:11:02.180
<v ->Is there any objection?</v>

01:11:03.490 --> 01:11:04.540
There's no objection.

01:11:06.250 --> 01:11:07.600
<v ->And just so everybody understands is that</v>

01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.780
kind of what this is that

01:11:09.780 --> 01:11:10.860
and some of you remember

01:11:10.860 --> 01:11:13.060
that we've had some discussions on this board

01:11:13.060 --> 01:11:14.630
in relation to,

01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:17.420
that we've had some statute

01:11:17.420 --> 01:11:20.260
and therefore in rule related to

01:11:20.260 --> 01:11:22.660
what was allowable on indirect cost.

01:11:24.030 --> 01:11:25.900
And that, so,

01:11:25.900 --> 01:11:26.780
in other words is that

01:11:26.780 --> 01:11:29.600
a certain percentage of money

01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.620
that is generated by a particular program

01:11:31.620 --> 01:11:35.070
has to be direct, fund that directly

01:11:35.070 --> 01:11:37.700
but a certain percentage of it can be used

01:11:37.700 --> 01:11:40.440
to fund the electric bill

01:11:40.440 --> 01:11:42.320
or the janitor or whatever.

01:11:43.400 --> 01:11:48.180
House Bill 3 made this provision irrelevant

01:11:48.180 --> 01:11:50.860
and therefore we are in the process of repealing it.

01:11:50.860 --> 01:11:52.460
And so it's just a really it's a,

01:11:52.460 --> 01:11:53.370
it's a,

01:11:53.370 --> 01:11:54.920
as a result of House Bill 3

01:11:55.900 --> 01:11:58.060
made that rule irrelevant.

01:11:58.060 --> 01:11:59.270
So that's the,

01:12:00.830 --> 01:12:02.070
the long and short of it.

01:12:04.790 --> 01:12:06.320
<v ->All right members have voted.</v>

01:12:06.320 --> 01:12:09.500
Two-thirds of the members is necessary.

01:12:09.500 --> 01:12:11.450
Okay, we've all ready actually suspended the rules.

01:12:11.450 --> 01:12:13.100
<v ->This is first reading.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.353
So,

01:12:18.156 --> 01:12:19.791
not two-thirds majority?

01:12:19.791 --> 01:12:20.780
<v ->It is still.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:12:20.780 --> 01:12:22.120
<v ->It is still.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:12:22.120 --> 01:12:25.380
So this is still a two-thirds majority vote.

01:12:25.380 --> 01:12:27.630
Is there any further discussion on this item?

01:12:30.370 --> 01:12:31.480
Seeing none.

01:12:31.480 --> 01:12:33.667
Those in favor please raise your hand.

01:12:36.742 --> 01:12:39.840
Those opposed please raise your hand.

01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:44.000
Right, there are two-thirds in favor

01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:45.720
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:12:47.490 --> 01:12:48.560
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.910
If you'll go to your second set of minutes

01:12:50.910 --> 01:12:53.110
and this is the permanent school fund items.

01:12:57.030 --> 01:12:58.370
And on page three,

01:12:59.740 --> 01:13:03.660
on behalf of the Committee on School Finance

01:13:03.660 --> 01:13:04.960
and Permanent School Fund,

01:13:06.460 --> 01:13:07.860
I move that the State Board of Education

01:13:07.860 --> 01:13:10.130
approve for second reading and final adoption

01:13:10.130 --> 01:13:13.310
a proposed amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 33,

01:13:14.160 --> 01:13:15.790
Statement of Investment Objectives,

01:13:15.790 --> 01:13:18.150
Policies, and Guidelines of the Permanent School Fund,

01:13:18.150 --> 01:13:21.590
Subchapter A, State Board of Education Rules, and

01:13:21.590 --> 01:13:23.110
make an affirmative finding that

01:13:23.110 --> 01:13:25.110
immediate adoption of the proposed amendments to

01:13:25.110 --> 01:13:28.890
19 TAC Chapter 33, Statement of Investment Objectives,

01:13:28.890 --> 01:13:31.560
Policies, and Guidelines of the Permanent School Fund,

01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:33.670
Subchapter A, State Board of Education Rules

01:13:33.670 --> 01:13:37.160
is necessary and shall have an effective date of

01:13:37.160 --> 01:13:40.950
20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.

01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:48.750
<v ->A two-thirds vote of this is also required</v>

01:13:48.750 --> 01:13:51.460
to establish an early effective date.

01:13:51.460 --> 01:13:53.660
Is there any further debate on this item?

01:13:56.820 --> 01:13:58.080
Hearing none, those in favor

01:13:58.080 --> 01:13:59.230
please raise your hand.

01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:03.010
Those opposed

01:14:04.750 --> 01:14:05.900
please raise your hand.

01:14:08.830 --> 01:14:09.990
There are two-thirds in favor

01:14:09.990 --> 01:14:12.640
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:13.740
<v ->Mr. Chairman I just,</v>

01:14:15.290 --> 01:14:16.123
members

01:14:17.530 --> 01:14:18.390
we can,

01:14:18.390 --> 01:14:21.470
we can send you some of these talking points via email.

01:14:21.470 --> 01:14:23.690
But I want to update on a few things

01:14:23.690 --> 01:14:25.200
because I know that many of you go out

01:14:25.200 --> 01:14:27.150
and you speak.

01:14:27.150 --> 01:14:30.060
And you talk a little bit about the permanent school fund.

01:14:30.060 --> 01:14:33.350
So here's some updates that are important for you

01:14:33.350 --> 01:14:35.580
and help you on your talking points.

01:14:35.580 --> 01:14:37.770
Currently our part of the permanent school fund

01:14:37.770 --> 01:14:40.410
is now 34.3 billion.

01:14:41.413 --> 01:14:43.860
And the school and board's portion

01:14:43.860 --> 01:14:45.220
is about 12.2 billion.

01:14:45.220 --> 01:14:48.520
And that makes the fund at this point 46.5 billion

01:14:49.530 --> 01:14:50.630
is where we are,

01:14:50.630 --> 01:14:53.500
46.5 billion is the total value

01:14:53.500 --> 01:14:56.700
of the permanent school fund.

01:14:56.700 --> 01:14:58.160
Bond guarantee program, as you know

01:14:58.160 --> 01:14:59.570
that's a very important thing that we do.

01:14:59.570 --> 01:15:03.460
Currently we are guaranteeing about 87,

01:15:03.460 --> 01:15:06.290
$87 billion in bonds.

01:15:07.140 --> 01:15:09.200
85 billion of that is ISD,

01:15:09.200 --> 01:15:11.170
two billion is charter.

01:15:11.170 --> 01:15:13.050
And our limit on that, by the way,

01:15:14.676 --> 01:15:16.740
is 117 billion.

01:15:16.740 --> 01:15:20.090
And so currently we're in the process now of expanding that.

01:15:20.090 --> 01:15:22.260
Actually that process takes some,

01:15:22.260 --> 01:15:23.870
is gonna probably take about a year and a half

01:15:23.870 --> 01:15:25.760
to navigate that,

01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:27.070
to expand that.

01:15:27.070 --> 01:15:28.520
It's been several years since that's happened.

01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:31.030
But we're at that point where we need to do that.

01:15:31.030 --> 01:15:31.863
So,

01:15:31.863 --> 01:15:34.500
the other thing that's worth noting too is is that the,

01:15:35.940 --> 01:15:37.000
that the,

01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:38.810
that the charter school reserve fund

01:15:40.050 --> 01:15:42.780
has grown to about 29 million.

01:15:42.780 --> 01:15:43.790
And I think that when we get to

01:15:43.790 --> 01:15:46.590
somewhere in the neighborhood of 65 million on that,

01:15:46.590 --> 01:15:49.000
now remember that we moved that out of the treasury

01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:52.430
and we put it under the management of the staff

01:15:52.430 --> 01:15:53.380
so we could invest that.

01:15:53.380 --> 01:15:54.580
And as result of that

01:15:54.580 --> 01:15:56.700
we've actually been able to grow that.

01:15:56.700 --> 01:15:57.800
The other provision of that is

01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:59.820
is that once we get to that 65 million

01:15:59.820 --> 01:16:01.910
we're gonna quit collecting that

01:16:01.910 --> 01:16:04.030
because we then, at that point,

01:16:04.030 --> 01:16:06.850
have established that reserve.

01:16:06.850 --> 01:16:09.200
We no longer need to collect that.

01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:11.290
We've taken the position,

01:16:11.290 --> 01:16:12.390
we don't need to be collecting money

01:16:12.390 --> 01:16:14.030
we don't need to collect.

01:16:14.030 --> 01:16:15.890
And once we hit that threshold

01:16:15.890 --> 01:16:17.910
then we will stop collecting that.

01:16:17.910 --> 01:16:19.540
You also recall that the Legislature

01:16:19.540 --> 01:16:20.900
created the liquid fund

01:16:22.215 --> 01:16:26.290
as a solution to what we term the cash drag.

01:16:26.290 --> 01:16:29.240
In September the school and board sent to us

01:16:30.090 --> 01:16:31.620
about $3.9 billion.

01:16:32.631 --> 01:16:34.290
A little less than four billion.

01:16:34.290 --> 01:16:36.890
In December, we received another 145 million.

01:16:38.290 --> 01:16:40.850
Now what that means is is that when they,

01:16:40.850 --> 01:16:42.850
they're limited now in terms of

01:16:42.850 --> 01:16:44.140
how much cash they can hold

01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:45.680
and once they hit that threshold

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.040
they have to send that over to us.

01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:48.860
Now we'll tell you that

01:16:48.860 --> 01:16:51.890
our challenge is is it takes a long time

01:16:51.890 --> 01:16:54.230
to deploy that much cash in the marketplace.

01:16:54.230 --> 01:16:55.430
And phase one of that is

01:16:55.430 --> 01:16:58.910
is a fixed income portfolio, in other words bonds.

01:16:58.910 --> 01:17:00.220
And then once we get phase one done

01:17:00.220 --> 01:17:03.070
we will start working on equities.

01:17:03.070 --> 01:17:04.980
And so we'll be able to grow that.

01:17:04.980 --> 01:17:06.600
So currently,

01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:11.120
what's in that liquid fund is 4.05

01:17:11.120 --> 01:17:12.450
4.05 billion.

01:17:13.440 --> 01:17:15.340
And what we have deployed to date

01:17:15.340 --> 01:17:17.720
is about 1.2 billion.

01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:19.480
It takes time to do this.

01:17:22.790 --> 01:17:26.030
The other provision of that legislation also

01:17:27.010 --> 01:17:29.950
allowed the State Board of Education part of the PSF

01:17:29.950 --> 01:17:31.940
to retain gains in earnings.

01:17:33.280 --> 01:17:34.920
Remember that we have not received

01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:37.370
a distribution for investment

01:17:37.370 --> 01:17:39.750
since about 2005.

01:17:39.750 --> 01:17:42.040
So all of the growth of our part of the fund

01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:43.370
has actually just come from investment

01:17:43.370 --> 01:17:45.500
not from inflows, at all.

01:17:45.500 --> 01:17:49.750
And so to date we have received about $20 million

01:17:49.750 --> 01:17:53.070
as a result of gains on the liquid account.

01:17:53.070 --> 01:17:54.720
And so that is,

01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:58.580
that will actually help us to grow our portion of the fund

01:17:58.580 --> 01:17:59.900
a little bit quicker.

01:18:00.870 --> 01:18:02.270
Just a few little, just,

01:18:02.270 --> 01:18:03.103
just notes.

01:18:04.710 --> 01:18:06.810
You should've received a,

01:18:06.810 --> 01:18:08.180
a packet.

01:18:08.180 --> 01:18:11.050
When you receive your permanent school fund items

01:18:11.050 --> 01:18:13.350
you receive a packet that has the

01:18:13.350 --> 01:18:15.810
third quarter performance report.

01:18:15.810 --> 01:18:18.120
One of our discussions within the committee

01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:20.560
is is that,

01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:21.600
how to

01:18:23.070 --> 01:18:25.350
we are always compared to other funds.

01:18:25.350 --> 01:18:26.950
And typically how they do that is is that

01:18:26.950 --> 01:18:30.060
they look at funds that are of similar size.

01:18:30.060 --> 01:18:31.470
But that doesn't necessarily mean

01:18:31.470 --> 01:18:33.880
that those are funds of similar composition

01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:35.520
or of similar mission.

01:18:37.380 --> 01:18:39.900
That sometimes we get compared to Ivy League funds

01:18:39.900 --> 01:18:42.980
that are 50 or 60% alternative investments

01:18:42.980 --> 01:18:45.190
that are not guaranteeing local school district bonds

01:18:45.190 --> 01:18:48.470
that don't have to maintain a certain level of liquidity

01:18:48.470 --> 01:18:49.650
to guarantee bonds.

01:18:49.650 --> 01:18:52.100
And therefore that

01:18:52.100 --> 01:18:55.350
we're looking for ways to expand that universe maybe.

01:18:55.350 --> 01:18:59.790
And maybe to have a more fair comparison.

01:18:59.790 --> 01:19:02.610
So that is an ongoing discussion.

01:19:02.610 --> 01:19:05.810
The annual report has not been released

01:19:05.810 --> 01:19:07.190
but should be this next week.

01:19:07.190 --> 01:19:08.660
It'll be online.

01:19:08.660 --> 01:19:11.370
Worth noting is is that for the first time on that

01:19:11.370 --> 01:19:13.120
is is that the,

01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:14.120
the earnings of the,

01:19:15.510 --> 01:19:17.560
of the fund are gonna be expressed

01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:19.750
not only gross of fees

01:19:19.750 --> 01:19:21.580
but also net of fees.

01:19:21.580 --> 01:19:24.510
And that's the first time that we're gonna see that.

01:19:24.510 --> 01:19:26.910
And I think that that's really an important part of that.

01:19:26.910 --> 01:19:29.000
One of the things we're really trying to do

01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.140
members, is that we're trying to improve

01:19:31.140 --> 01:19:35.090
the transparency of the fund.

01:19:36.820 --> 01:19:39.560
February 25th is the Senate Finance Committee hearing.

01:19:40.590 --> 01:19:42.320
The Senate Finance Committee is holding the hearing

01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:43.960
concerning investments

01:19:44.900 --> 01:19:46.670
on various public funds.

01:19:46.670 --> 01:19:49.210
Keven Ellis and I will be addressing that.

01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:51.770
Also in the April meeting

01:19:52.881 --> 01:19:54.070
we will hear from the,

01:19:57.084 --> 01:19:58.180
the state auditor's office.

01:19:58.180 --> 01:20:00.230
And so they will have completed their work

01:20:00.230 --> 01:20:01.063
on the state auditor

01:20:01.063 --> 01:20:02.540
from the state auditor.

01:20:02.540 --> 01:20:04.610
And also is is that we have also requested

01:20:04.610 --> 01:20:08.320
a meeting with the School Land Board in April.

01:20:08.320 --> 01:20:11.050
The staff continues to work on that.

01:20:11.050 --> 01:20:13.380
So understand that the,

01:20:13.380 --> 01:20:14.840
the law says is that

01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:17.640
that we have to hold an annual meeting

01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:18.980
with the School Land Board.

01:20:18.980 --> 01:20:20.150
Well,

01:20:20.150 --> 01:20:22.690
when you read the letter of the statute

01:20:22.690 --> 01:20:25.510
it only really addresses, to talk about investments.

01:20:26.580 --> 01:20:29.340
One of the things that I believe is is that

01:20:29.340 --> 01:20:32.160
I think it'll be helpful for the members of this board

01:20:32.160 --> 01:20:33.510
to better understand,

01:20:33.510 --> 01:20:36.160
to have a more complete understanding

01:20:36.160 --> 01:20:37.880
of the total permanent school fund

01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.540
which includes the work of the School Land Board

01:20:40.540 --> 01:20:42.250
which includes all of the sovereign lands

01:20:42.250 --> 01:20:45.430
and all the oil leases and the work that they do.

01:20:45.430 --> 01:20:46.580
I think that would be helpful.

01:20:46.580 --> 01:20:48.710
I think it'd be helpful for

01:20:48.710 --> 01:20:50.240
the members of the School Land Board

01:20:50.240 --> 01:20:52.030
who are now complete by the way,

01:20:52.030 --> 01:20:53.990
now that our members have been seated.

01:20:54.860 --> 01:20:56.870
And to have a better understanding

01:20:56.870 --> 01:20:58.660
of the workings of this board

01:20:58.660 --> 01:21:01.010
and how that actually impacts instruction

01:21:01.010 --> 01:21:04.180
and things like the instructional materials allotment,

01:21:04.180 --> 01:21:05.720
the technology allotment,

01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:07.760
the per capita distribution and things like that.

01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:08.593
And so that's,

01:21:10.220 --> 01:21:11.770
Mr. Chairman that is my report.

01:21:12.610 --> 01:21:13.443
And,

01:21:13.443 --> 01:21:14.610
if there's any questions.

01:21:17.100 --> 01:21:17.933
<v ->Ms. Bahorich.</v>

01:21:19.580 --> 01:21:22.520
<v ->Chairman Maynard, could you go over the</v>

01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:25.150
constitutional amendment that was passed in November

01:21:25.150 --> 01:21:26.170
and the impact of that.

01:21:26.170 --> 01:21:27.560
And how that would work

01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.730
should we receive money directly from mineral revenues

01:21:31.730 --> 01:21:33.000
from the Land Board.

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:33.880
<v ->Ah, great question.</v>

01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:35.170
I'm not prepared to answer that question.

01:21:35.170 --> 01:21:36.850
But let me, just in a,

01:21:36.850 --> 01:21:38.620
give you the Reader's Digest version.

01:21:38.620 --> 01:21:40.169
<v Member>How about we put it in an email</v>

01:21:40.169 --> 01:21:41.658
and circulate it among everyone?

01:21:41.658 --> 01:21:43.489
<v Member>No, this is pretty important.</v>

01:21:43.489 --> 01:21:44.322
<v ->Yeah, so,</v>

01:21:44.322 --> 01:21:47.870
so Prop seven on this last November,

01:21:49.070 --> 01:21:50.030
essentially

01:21:51.810 --> 01:21:52.990
stated

01:21:52.990 --> 01:21:57.970
and Keven correct me if I get off the reservation here,

01:21:57.970 --> 01:22:02.370
that additional distributions can be made from

01:22:02.370 --> 01:22:04.870
from revenues from land.

01:22:06.040 --> 01:22:07.900
And that,

01:22:07.900 --> 01:22:11.220
however, we don't actually have any revenue

01:22:11.220 --> 01:22:13.120
directly from state,

01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:14.670
from sovereign land

01:22:14.670 --> 01:22:16.590
or oil and gas revenues and things like that.

01:22:16.590 --> 01:22:18.000
And so that,

01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.830
if that would ever be the case

01:22:21.250 --> 01:22:23.990
if those revenues would ever come to

01:22:23.990 --> 01:22:25.600
our part of the permanent school fund

01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:28.280
then we would have some latitude

01:22:28.280 --> 01:22:30.550
to make additional distributions

01:22:30.550 --> 01:22:32.380
from that revenue source.

01:22:32.380 --> 01:22:33.950
It doesn't affect us right now

01:22:33.950 --> 01:22:35.600
because we don't actually receive

01:22:36.670 --> 01:22:38.570
those revenues directly at this point.

01:22:43.905 --> 01:22:45.965
<v Member>Mr. Chairman.</v>

01:22:45.965 --> 01:22:48.450
<v ->Ms. Bahorich.</v>
<v ->Which is why I just,</v>

01:22:48.450 --> 01:22:50.050
I wanted to make sure that folks understand

01:22:50.050 --> 01:22:51.280
this was an increased authority

01:22:51.280 --> 01:22:53.450
for the State Board of Education

01:22:54.350 --> 01:22:56.550
to allow us to have an additional pathway

01:22:56.550 --> 01:22:58.810
for distributing money to the schools.

01:22:58.810 --> 01:23:01.050
But it has a specific caveat

01:23:01.050 --> 01:23:04.640
and please correct Von, if I say it incorrectly,

01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.820
is that it has to be from current revenues,

01:23:07.820 --> 01:23:08.653
mineral revenues.

01:23:08.653 --> 01:23:09.520
Is that--

01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:11.487
Am I saying that correctly?

01:23:11.487 --> 01:23:12.320
Or Mr. Chair?

01:23:14.280 --> 01:23:16.820
<v Mr. Ellis>Von, you wanna speak to that?</v>

01:23:16.820 --> 01:23:21.820
<v Von>You're referring to the changes in subsection G?</v>

01:23:22.490 --> 01:23:24.120
<v ->The constitutional amendment.</v>

01:23:24.120 --> 01:23:26.730
<v ->Oh the constitution that--</v>
<v ->Prop seven.</v>

01:23:26.730 --> 01:23:28.510
<v ->Mm?</v>
<v ->Prop seven.</v>

01:23:28.510 --> 01:23:30.850
<v ->Well my book doesn't have it listed by prop.</v>

01:23:32.181 --> 01:23:34.990
(members laughing)

01:23:34.990 --> 01:23:36.360
Under subsection G

01:23:37.318 --> 01:23:39.680
the State board was allowed to

01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:41.030
was included in the provision

01:23:41.030 --> 01:23:43.840
that allowed an additional $300 million,

01:23:45.480 --> 01:23:47.760
or I'm sorry, 600 million.
<v ->600, yeah.</v>

01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:50.060
<v ->Dollar distribution.</v>

01:23:52.890 --> 01:23:53.970
I think there is

01:23:55.250 --> 01:23:58.820
actually some area here for us to explore

01:23:58.820 --> 01:24:01.880
because the language says:

01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:04.140
"The State Board of Education General Land Office

01:24:04.140 --> 01:24:07.100
"or another entity that has responsibility

01:24:07.100 --> 01:24:08.780
"for the management of revenues

01:24:08.780 --> 01:24:11.150
"derived from the permanent school fund land,"

01:24:11.150 --> 01:24:15.620
which is what Mr. Maynard was discussing,

01:24:15.620 --> 01:24:17.407
"or other properties."

01:24:17.407 --> 01:24:18.950
And,

01:24:18.950 --> 01:24:21.210
what you all own is other properties.

01:24:21.210 --> 01:24:23.940
So one could argue that

01:24:23.940 --> 01:24:26.240
that was in addition to your total returns.

01:24:26.240 --> 01:24:27.910
But, I think this is,

01:24:27.910 --> 01:24:29.820
this is something that is yet to be,

01:24:29.820 --> 01:24:33.800
that needs to be further fleshed out as to whether

01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:36.430
this is a power you could use now

01:24:36.430 --> 01:24:39.362
or you would need to have access to land.

01:24:39.362 --> 01:24:43.171
I think, Mr. Maynard?
<v ->Yeah.</v>

01:24:43.171 --> 01:24:45.230
<v ->Yeah, and Von, it's my understanding that,</v>

01:24:45.230 --> 01:24:47.630
yeah, while we do have a real estate portfolio

01:24:47.630 --> 01:24:52.530
is is that we own shares in investment funds

01:24:52.530 --> 01:24:54.380
that are supporting certain properties,

01:24:54.380 --> 01:24:55.720
but, for instance,

01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:57.440
but we don't actually own the land.

01:24:57.440 --> 01:25:00.850
<v ->Well, properties as a legal term</v>

01:25:00.850 --> 01:25:02.720
covers more than just real estate.

01:25:04.350 --> 01:25:07.050
So when it says, "Or other properties,"

01:25:07.050 --> 01:25:09.040
that could include any kind of,

01:25:10.250 --> 01:25:11.660
any kind of thing of value

01:25:11.660 --> 01:25:13.690
that is owned by the PSF.

01:25:15.500 --> 01:25:17.010
<v Mr. Maynard>That's interesting.</v>

01:25:17.010 --> 01:25:18.430
<v ->Ms. Bahorich.</v>

01:25:18.430 --> 01:25:19.720
<v ->So all I was gonna say is</v>

01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:22.430
should the Land Office have decided, for instance,

01:25:22.430 --> 01:25:24.210
to go ahead and send straight to us

01:25:25.290 --> 01:25:29.220
the 100 and, what was it, 140 some million,

01:25:29.220 --> 01:25:31.120
that they just sent over to the liquid fund.

01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:32.990
<v ->145.</v>
<v ->145 million</v>

01:25:32.990 --> 01:25:34.800
that they just sent over to the liquid fund.

01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.040
That would've been a decision at that point

01:25:37.040 --> 01:25:39.360
for the board to decide whether

01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:41.110
that we wanted to take advantage, I think,

01:25:41.110 --> 01:25:42.930
for that additional distribution

01:25:44.260 --> 01:25:47.110
that we would've received from that,

01:25:47.110 --> 01:25:48.450
that year's revenues.

01:25:48.450 --> 01:25:49.520
So anyway,

01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.050
it's just another pathway for us

01:25:51.050 --> 01:25:52.000
what we've not had,

01:25:52.890 --> 01:25:55.280
other than that bi-annual distribution

01:25:55.280 --> 01:25:57.710
that we could get should we receive revenues from

01:25:57.710 --> 01:25:58.810
the School Land Board.

01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:05.730
<v ->All right, any other discussion on this matter?</v>

01:26:07.933 --> 01:26:09.860
Does that conclude your report Mr. Maynard?

01:26:11.010 --> 01:26:12.350
<v ->Yes, Mr. Chairman.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:26:12.350 --> 01:26:13.183
Thank you.

01:26:18.440 --> 01:26:19.390
Okay, on,

01:26:19.390 --> 01:26:21.090
we're gonna move to item number 18

01:26:21.090 --> 01:26:23.410
and members, I have an amendment to offer on this one

01:26:23.410 --> 01:26:25.660
and the parliamentarianism for me

01:26:25.660 --> 01:26:28.000
it'd be proper to hand the gavel to the vice chair

01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:29.670
to preside over this item.

01:26:34.750 --> 01:26:36.100
<v ->Okay, I guess this is the report of the</v>

01:26:36.100 --> 01:26:37.700
Committee on School Initiatives.

01:26:38.750 --> 01:26:39.583
<v Ms. Cargill>All right,</v>

01:26:39.583 --> 01:26:40.810
I'll offer the main mention there.

01:26:40.810 --> 01:26:43.120
<v ->So Ms. Cargill.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:26:43.120 --> 01:26:47.070
So members, in your Committee on School Initiatives handout

01:26:49.060 --> 01:26:52.620
with the motions, I'm on page three.

01:26:52.620 --> 01:26:53.453
So,

01:26:54.894 --> 01:26:56.330
it was moved by the committee

01:26:56.330 --> 01:26:57.790
that the State Board of Education

01:26:57.790 --> 01:27:00.690
approve for second reading and final adoption

01:27:00.690 --> 01:27:03.710
proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 61,

01:27:03.710 --> 01:27:05.970
School Districts, Subchapter A,

01:27:05.970 --> 01:27:09.430
Board of Trustees Relationship as substituted.

01:27:09.430 --> 01:27:11.680
And you have that in attachment A.

01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:13.700
And make an affirmative finding

01:27:13.700 --> 01:27:16.000
that immediate adoption of the proposed amendments

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:19.560
to 19 TAC Chapter 61, School Districts,

01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.550
Subchapter A, Board of Trustees Relationship

01:27:22.550 --> 01:27:25.340
is necessary and shall have an effective date

01:27:25.340 --> 01:27:29.200
of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.

01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:31.450
<v ->Okay, is there any discussion on this item?</v>

01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:35.920
Dr. Ellis.

01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.390
<v ->Yeah, members I do have an amendment I wanna propose.</v>

01:27:38.390 --> 01:27:40.400
And I wanna try to walk you through

01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:41.960
my thought process on this.

01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:46.100
The handout of my amendment is being given by Lenny.

01:27:46.950 --> 01:27:48.540
Now, first of all, I would state

01:27:48.540 --> 01:27:51.800
that I absolutely propose the rule

01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:53.640
as was presented by staff

01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:54.850
except for this one little point.

01:27:54.850 --> 01:27:57.300
So regardless of whether I prevail on this amendment

01:27:57.300 --> 01:27:58.530
or fail on this amendment

01:27:58.530 --> 01:28:01.510
I am still gonna support the main amendment

01:28:01.510 --> 01:28:03.220
because I think there's a lot of good stuff

01:28:03.220 --> 01:28:04.880
that staff has done with this.

01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:06.720
And I believe Drew is here

01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:09.310
and can also speak to some of that also.

01:28:09.310 --> 01:28:10.460
But essentially we all believe

01:28:10.460 --> 01:28:11.910
that there can be an improvement

01:28:11.910 --> 01:28:13.240
in the team-building training.

01:28:13.240 --> 01:28:14.450
And that's what this relates to.

01:28:14.450 --> 01:28:18.050
My motion relates to the team-building section.

01:28:18.050 --> 01:28:20.110
As you all know that there's a lot of

01:28:20.110 --> 01:28:21.400
different type of training

01:28:21.400 --> 01:28:24.160
that the State Board of Education is responsible

01:28:24.160 --> 01:28:27.600
for making sure that board of trustees go through.

01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:29.590
And it's anywhere from

01:28:29.590 --> 01:28:32.280
an introduction to the education code,

01:28:32.280 --> 01:28:36.310
for new trustees to have a meeting with the superintendent,

01:28:36.310 --> 01:28:39.010
to the 10 or so hours of continuing education.

01:28:39.930 --> 01:28:41.800
There's a team-building training.

01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:43.430
There's the accountability training

01:28:43.430 --> 01:28:44.970
which is the 1566.

01:28:44.970 --> 01:28:47.630
And there's new things such as

01:28:47.630 --> 01:28:50.640
human trafficking training that has to take place.

01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:53.080
So my amendment, just for clarification

01:28:53.080 --> 01:28:55.740
refers to the team-building training

01:28:55.740 --> 01:28:56.910
for school boards.

01:28:56.910 --> 01:28:59.810
The team-building training is based on a framework

01:28:59.810 --> 01:29:01.140
for school board development

01:29:01.140 --> 01:29:03.230
that is a State Board of Education document

01:29:03.230 --> 01:29:06.370
that was last revised in 2012.

01:29:06.370 --> 01:29:07.300
But from my understanding

01:29:07.300 --> 01:29:08.700
that was a very light revision

01:29:08.700 --> 01:29:12.140
and probably a lot of this research from the framework

01:29:12.140 --> 01:29:14.900
goes back, probably many decades.

01:29:14.900 --> 01:29:16.570
And I think we all understand

01:29:16.570 --> 01:29:19.710
that there can be some improvement done in team-building

01:29:19.710 --> 01:29:21.900
based upon improving that framework

01:29:21.900 --> 01:29:23.590
for school board governance.

01:29:23.590 --> 01:29:25.000
So to get to the meat of the matter

01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.260
this issue of my amendment revolves around

01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:31.210
whether we have just registered providers

01:29:31.210 --> 01:29:35.050
doing this training versus an authorized provider.

01:29:35.050 --> 01:29:36.090
So for clarification,

01:29:36.090 --> 01:29:38.200
a registered provider is just someone

01:29:38.200 --> 01:29:43.200
who essentially goes to the TEA website,

01:29:43.550 --> 01:29:44.750
fills out the application,

01:29:44.750 --> 01:29:46.990
they do have to show what expertise

01:29:46.990 --> 01:29:48.660
or credentialing they have.

01:29:48.660 --> 01:29:51.550
But essentially it's a sign up process

01:29:51.550 --> 01:29:53.480
to be a registered provider.

01:29:53.480 --> 01:29:55.600
That's where the training is at now.

01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:57.910
What the agency staff is proposing

01:29:57.910 --> 01:30:01.220
is to raise that to being an authorized provider.

01:30:02.210 --> 01:30:06.310
An authorized provider has to either take training

01:30:06.310 --> 01:30:10.130
on the 1566 Accountability Training

01:30:10.130 --> 01:30:12.090
the way it's set up for right now,

01:30:12.090 --> 01:30:13.210
and then pass a test.

01:30:13.210 --> 01:30:15.110
And that was a test that we referred to

01:30:15.110 --> 01:30:17.910
I believe it was on one of the days earlier this week

01:30:17.910 --> 01:30:18.820
that was in the backroom

01:30:18.820 --> 01:30:21.300
that was available for us to look at.

01:30:21.300 --> 01:30:24.110
It was not, I agree, an onerous or burdensome test.

01:30:24.110 --> 01:30:26.370
It was good information.

01:30:26.370 --> 01:30:28.610
But my point is that that is

01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:31.650
a training and test

01:30:31.650 --> 01:30:35.630
on the 1566 part of board training

01:30:35.630 --> 01:30:37.820
which is about accountability.

01:30:37.820 --> 01:30:39.490
And I think the idea is,

01:30:39.490 --> 01:30:42.710
if there is an improvement that needs to be taken

01:30:42.710 --> 01:30:44.490
on the team-building section

01:30:44.490 --> 01:30:46.210
that's based on the framework,

01:30:46.210 --> 01:30:48.094
what staff is looking at is

01:30:48.094 --> 01:30:49.610
we can improve that by making sure

01:30:49.610 --> 01:30:51.660
we have the highest quality trainers

01:30:51.660 --> 01:30:53.460
who's taken this training.

01:30:53.460 --> 01:30:56.060
But my contention is that

01:30:56.060 --> 01:30:58.900
this is not a training and testing on

01:30:58.900 --> 01:31:00.510
teaching team-building.

01:31:00.510 --> 01:31:04.230
This is a training and testing on 1566

01:31:04.230 --> 01:31:05.760
which is the accountability.

01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:08.920
I do fully agree that there is a good bit of overlap

01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:11.450
between what should happen in a team-building training

01:31:11.450 --> 01:31:13.390
and what's going on with accountability.

01:31:13.390 --> 01:31:16.230
Ideally boards are talking about their vision

01:31:16.230 --> 01:31:17.730
which is one of the pillars,

01:31:17.730 --> 01:31:19.130
which would be goal setting.

01:31:19.130 --> 01:31:22.380
Accountability is one of the pillars of the framework,

01:31:22.380 --> 01:31:23.770
they should be talking about that.

01:31:23.770 --> 01:31:26.220
But that's not the only part of the framework

01:31:26.220 --> 01:31:27.460
that we have.

01:31:27.460 --> 01:31:30.320
There are other things such as structure,

01:31:30.320 --> 01:31:32.360
we're talking about board operating procedures

01:31:32.360 --> 01:31:33.470
or board governance.

01:31:33.470 --> 01:31:35.030
And there's also about unity,

01:31:35.030 --> 01:31:36.380
how that they work together

01:31:37.390 --> 01:31:39.430
among each other as board members

01:31:39.430 --> 01:31:41.850
is part of the team-building training

01:31:41.850 --> 01:31:43.260
but would not be necessarily

01:31:43.260 --> 01:31:46.540
part of the training and testing that they would get

01:31:46.540 --> 01:31:48.920
through the accountability training.

01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:51.100
So, as we work through this

01:31:51.100 --> 01:31:52.350
I do also wanna state

01:31:52.350 --> 01:31:55.150
that I am hesitant to do this on a second reading

01:31:55.150 --> 01:31:56.450
on a Friday.

01:31:56.450 --> 01:31:58.610
But let me, I wanna speak a little bit about that.

01:31:58.610 --> 01:32:01.820
We did ask them to go back after first reading.

01:32:01.820 --> 01:32:04.393
When I say, "They," I mean TASB

01:32:04.393 --> 01:32:07.100
who is part of this discussion with that

01:32:07.100 --> 01:32:08.970
to work with agency staff

01:32:08.970 --> 01:32:10.330
and to work on a compromise.

01:32:10.330 --> 01:32:12.640
And many, many times this has come up in the past

01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:15.050
we've instructed them to go back

01:32:15.050 --> 01:32:16.340
and come up with a compromise.

01:32:16.340 --> 01:32:18.870
And most of the time they have tended to do that.

01:32:18.870 --> 01:32:20.700
I think, in this case, they might be

01:32:20.700 --> 01:32:24.150
what is described as irreconcilable differences.

01:32:24.150 --> 01:32:25.810
So when they came back they both said that

01:32:25.810 --> 01:32:27.390
we cannot come to a compromise

01:32:27.390 --> 01:32:30.940
and the agency is still proposing these changes.

01:32:31.950 --> 01:32:33.070
The other reason

01:32:33.070 --> 01:32:34.950
that I'm bringing it forward on a Friday is that

01:32:34.950 --> 01:32:36.080
it did fail in committee

01:32:36.080 --> 01:32:37.460
but it failed on a two-to-two vote.

01:32:37.460 --> 01:32:41.520
One of our members was out for a family emerg,

01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:42.630
or a family situation

01:32:42.630 --> 01:32:43.820
so was not able to be there.

01:32:43.820 --> 01:32:47.290
So it did fail but it failed on a two-to-two vote.

01:32:47.290 --> 01:32:48.180
And then the third reason

01:32:48.180 --> 01:32:50.720
I'm comfortable in bringing this up

01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:52.020
on a second reading on a Friday

01:32:52.020 --> 01:32:53.420
is I'm not proposing something

01:32:53.420 --> 01:32:56.270
that's gonna take us into unchartered territory,

01:32:56.270 --> 01:32:57.720
you know something new.

01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:01.320
My proposal is actually to keep the status quo.

01:33:01.320 --> 01:33:03.520
It's not for a new process or something new

01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:07.130
that's not been vetted or taken out for public comment.

01:33:07.130 --> 01:33:09.240
It's to keep the status quo.

01:33:09.240 --> 01:33:11.030
Now, as we go through this

01:33:11.030 --> 01:33:12.670
I fully believe and I understand

01:33:12.670 --> 01:33:14.900
where the agency's coming from on this that we,

01:33:14.900 --> 01:33:17.740
I believe we need better team-building training.

01:33:17.740 --> 01:33:20.230
But it's my contention that we do that

01:33:20.230 --> 01:33:21.610
by getting together,

01:33:21.610 --> 01:33:24.980
and I'm very willing to be part of a process

01:33:24.980 --> 01:33:27.230
and working with the Chair of School Initiatives

01:33:27.230 --> 01:33:30.020
to let's take a re-look at our framework

01:33:30.020 --> 01:33:32.270
for school board governance.

01:33:32.270 --> 01:33:34.880
If we need to get some stakeholder engagement

01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:35.713
whether it,

01:33:35.713 --> 01:33:37.050
whatever that would look like,

01:33:37.050 --> 01:33:40.680
I'm ready to start that process as soon as Monday.

01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:42.500
I also think it'd be useful down the road

01:33:42.500 --> 01:33:44.590
when we get done with that to look at

01:33:44.590 --> 01:33:46.880
this section of our rules on

01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:49.850
what are our exact expectations

01:33:49.850 --> 01:33:51.030
in team-building training.

01:33:51.030 --> 01:33:53.670
What do we want school boards to accomplish.

01:33:53.670 --> 01:33:55.850
And I think we can be more clear in our rules.

01:33:55.850 --> 01:33:58.640
So I think there could be some changes in our rules

01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:01.740
in the future, in addition to looking at the framework

01:34:01.740 --> 01:34:03.110
of school board governance.

01:34:03.110 --> 01:34:05.790
And then lastly, I've also talked with staff

01:34:05.790 --> 01:34:07.580
and they believe that there is a process

01:34:07.580 --> 01:34:10.950
that we could have an authorized provider training

01:34:10.950 --> 01:34:12.850
but then authorized for team-building,

01:34:14.150 --> 01:34:15.870
a training and a testing to become

01:34:15.870 --> 01:34:18.570
an authorized team-builder trainer not,

01:34:18.570 --> 01:34:21.710
in addition to being the accountability trainer

01:34:21.710 --> 01:34:24.280
that is currently in process.

01:34:24.280 --> 01:34:26.190
I know that Drew Howard is here

01:34:26.190 --> 01:34:28.220
from the agency also.

01:34:28.220 --> 01:34:30.450
He has mentioned to me that he can be a resource

01:34:30.450 --> 01:34:34.460
if the presiding officer would like to call him up

01:34:34.460 --> 01:34:35.850
and to bring that up also.

01:34:35.850 --> 01:34:39.060
So that is my layout of why I'm doing this.

01:34:39.060 --> 01:34:41.750
The amendment is simply to

01:34:41.750 --> 01:34:43.960
go back to how it is currently

01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:45.910
that it'll be provided by a registered provider

01:34:45.910 --> 01:34:48.420
or also an ESC provider.

01:34:48.420 --> 01:34:50.270
<v Vice Chair>Do you wanna make your motion?</v>

01:34:50.270 --> 01:34:52.250
<v ->So my motion would be to</v>

01:34:52.250 --> 01:34:57.250
amend proposed new 61.1 B four F

01:34:57.810 --> 01:34:59.340
to read as follows:

01:34:59.340 --> 01:35:00.950
"The team-building session shall be provided

01:35:00.950 --> 01:35:02.680
"by an ESC or a registered provider

01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:05.470
"as described by subsection C of this section."

01:35:05.470 --> 01:35:06.900
<v ->Is there a second?</v>

01:35:06.900 --> 01:35:07.733
Okay.

01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:10.500
Ms. Perez-Diaz.

01:35:10.500 --> 01:35:11.610
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chair.</v>

01:35:11.610 --> 01:35:14.070
And chairman thank you so much for your explanation.

01:35:14.070 --> 01:35:15.140
I think you did a beautiful job

01:35:15.140 --> 01:35:16.790
of articulating where you stand.

01:35:16.790 --> 01:35:20.520
And all I've got to say that I stand in favor of the motion.

01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:23.020
And I wanted to specifically address

01:35:23.020 --> 01:35:24.240
my position on this.

01:35:25.608 --> 01:35:27.550
I very, very much value the amount of work

01:35:27.550 --> 01:35:32.550
that staff put into making this a pretty thorough document.

01:35:33.170 --> 01:35:35.090
My only concern is,

01:35:35.090 --> 01:35:36.970
I'm looking at this from,

01:35:36.970 --> 01:35:38.850
from an equity perspective.

01:35:38.850 --> 01:35:40.660
And in my district alone

01:35:40.660 --> 01:35:42.870
there's been quite a bit of intervention

01:35:42.870 --> 01:35:45.510
in our school board governance.

01:35:45.510 --> 01:35:47.970
And of concern to me, in particular,

01:35:47.970 --> 01:35:51.670
are the relationships among some of these boards.

01:35:51.670 --> 01:35:53.620
And so I think that, absolutely,

01:35:53.620 --> 01:35:56.150
accountability focus is really, really critical.

01:35:56.150 --> 01:35:57.500
But I think before you can ever get to

01:35:57.500 --> 01:35:59.200
the accountability conversations

01:35:59.200 --> 01:36:01.050
you need to be able to have conversations

01:36:01.050 --> 01:36:02.310
with your colleagues.

01:36:02.310 --> 01:36:07.060
And so, I think that there needs to be a critical focus on

01:36:07.060 --> 01:36:08.690
things like emotional intelligence

01:36:08.690 --> 01:36:10.310
and having crucial conversations.

01:36:10.310 --> 01:36:12.300
And so, I don't necessarily know,

01:36:12.300 --> 01:36:15.880
I actually agree with perhaps a process for

01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:19.290
identifying those (audio cuts out)

01:36:19.290 --> 01:36:21.400
that will focus on team-building.

01:36:21.400 --> 01:36:22.900
But at this,

01:36:22.900 --> 01:36:25.850
at this particular moment I believe that

01:36:25.850 --> 01:36:27.240
we should allow for the flexibility

01:36:27.240 --> 01:36:28.280
for those board members

01:36:28.280 --> 01:36:30.230
that need particular types of training

01:36:30.230 --> 01:36:32.170
to make those decisions locally.

01:36:32.170 --> 01:36:33.030
<v Vice Chair>Okay, thank you.</v>

01:36:33.030 --> 01:36:33.863
Dr. Robinson.

01:36:35.910 --> 01:36:37.570
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:36:37.570 --> 01:36:38.403
Yeah, I've,

01:36:39.790 --> 01:36:42.280
I wanna give some perspective as I'm like Keven,

01:36:42.280 --> 01:36:44.740
I was on a school board for 10 years.

01:36:44.740 --> 01:36:46.630
So I've been through all these

01:36:46.630 --> 01:36:48.940
team-building trainings and things.

01:36:48.940 --> 01:36:50.900
And a member of the TEA staff

01:36:50.900 --> 01:36:53.100
called me this past weekend

01:36:53.100 --> 01:36:55.360
to talk about this issue.

01:36:55.360 --> 01:36:57.740
And I pointed out to him that

01:36:57.740 --> 01:37:01.800
it just seems to me, just on the surface that

01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:04.380
that the TEA in proposing this

01:37:04.380 --> 01:37:06.940
was not trusting the superintendents

01:37:06.940 --> 01:37:11.490
to pick out a quality team-building program

01:37:11.490 --> 01:37:13.070
or team training.

01:37:14.340 --> 01:37:15.173
And that,

01:37:16.310 --> 01:37:18.180
I think that the superintendents

01:37:18.180 --> 01:37:20.480
and each individual district think

01:37:20.480 --> 01:37:22.820
what they want and need are gonna be different.

01:37:22.820 --> 01:37:23.810
And I think that we need

01:37:23.810 --> 01:37:25.810
to trust the superintendents to do that.

01:37:26.860 --> 01:37:28.780
But where this is originally coming from

01:37:28.780 --> 01:37:30.660
is there's a very small percent,

01:37:30.660 --> 01:37:32.660
it's probably, I don't know what it is,

01:37:32.660 --> 01:37:35.520
a couple percent of boards across the state

01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:36.790
have a lot of dysfunction.

01:37:36.790 --> 01:37:39.470
And so it seems like that that's,

01:37:39.470 --> 01:37:42.220
that that's where this is trying to focus

01:37:42.220 --> 01:37:46.290
in trying to make them get better training.

01:37:46.290 --> 01:37:47.670
But really when you,

01:37:47.670 --> 01:37:49.680
if you look at those boards

01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:51.240
that have severe dysfunction,

01:37:53.030 --> 01:37:55.880
that they're not gonna be made better or worse.

01:37:55.880 --> 01:37:57.290
And some of them have already had

01:37:57.290 --> 01:37:59.090
Lone Star Governance training

01:37:59.090 --> 01:38:00.840
and haven't improved at all.

01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.040
So I don't think that this,

01:38:04.040 --> 01:38:05.680
that what the TEA is proposing

01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:08.830
is going to have a real effect

01:38:08.830 --> 01:38:10.510
on that real small percent

01:38:11.420 --> 01:38:12.830
of boards that are dysfunctional.

01:38:12.830 --> 01:38:13.840
And at the same time

01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:15.750
I think that the superintendents

01:38:15.750 --> 01:38:18.580
in each individual district are better,

01:38:18.580 --> 01:38:20.560
in a better position

01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:23.780
and are the professionals to choose the training.

01:38:23.780 --> 01:38:26.460
So I just don't think that there is a need

01:38:27.480 --> 01:38:28.920
to make a change.

01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:32.090
And then also yesterday, we were told,

01:38:32.090 --> 01:38:34.800
we were given a list of about 20 school board members

01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:36.050
that were on a committee.

01:38:36.983 --> 01:38:40.930
And then we were told and I asked for clarification,

01:38:40.930 --> 01:38:44.760
was there unanimous approval of this group

01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:47.220
of school board members for this.

01:38:47.220 --> 01:38:48.410
And he said yes.

01:38:49.750 --> 01:38:52.400
And of those 20, six of them I know personally.

01:38:52.400 --> 01:38:54.070
I found out, since then,

01:38:54.070 --> 01:38:56.270
that that was definitely not the case.

01:38:56.270 --> 01:39:00.550
There was quite bit of people on that list,

01:39:00.550 --> 01:39:04.580
school board members that did not agree with this,

01:39:04.580 --> 01:39:06.040
which, so,

01:39:06.040 --> 01:39:08.910
So that's why I'm speaking in favor of

01:39:08.910 --> 01:39:10.820
Dr. Ellis's amendment.

01:39:10.820 --> 01:39:12.360
<v Vice Chair>Okay, Ms. Bahorich.</v>

01:39:14.090 --> 01:39:15.620
<v ->If there's no objection,</v>

01:39:15.620 --> 01:39:17.430
I would like to hear from staff a little bit more

01:39:17.430 --> 01:39:20.060
'cause we weren't privy to the conversations, Thursday.

01:39:20.060 --> 01:39:22.840
So if we could get a perspective on this

01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:24.550
and the staff's,

01:39:25.470 --> 01:39:27.260
why this recommendation was brought.

01:39:27.260 --> 01:39:28.093
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:39:28.093 --> 01:39:29.780
Any objection to that, members?

01:39:31.540 --> 01:39:33.140
Mr. Cortez.

01:39:33.140 --> 01:39:34.570
<v ->I would also ask that if,</v>

01:39:35.510 --> 01:39:37.660
if TASB's here, I know that they spoke yesterday

01:39:37.660 --> 01:39:38.560
and I missed them.

01:39:39.450 --> 01:39:41.240
I'd like to hear their side of it as well

01:39:41.240 --> 01:39:42.490
if that's at all possible.

01:39:42.490 --> 01:39:43.730
<v ->Okay, let's take it one at a time.</v>

01:39:43.730 --> 01:39:48.380
Any objection to staff giving us some testimony

01:39:48.380 --> 01:39:49.330
in that regard?

01:39:49.330 --> 01:39:50.163
Okay.

01:39:50.163 --> 01:39:55.163
Now any objection to TASB giving some testimony as well?

01:39:55.500 --> 01:39:56.370
Okay, hearing none.

01:39:56.370 --> 01:39:57.550
Then we'll proceed forward.

01:39:57.550 --> 01:39:59.420
So, is it Mr. ??

01:40:04.230 --> 01:40:07.320
And if you would identify yourself, please sir.

01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:08.290
<v ->Dr. Drew Howard.</v>

01:40:09.240 --> 01:40:10.390
If we can, there we go.

01:40:10.390 --> 01:40:12.890
Dr. Drew Howard, Senior Director of

01:40:12.890 --> 01:40:15.550
School Governance and Leadership Support for TEA.

01:40:17.700 --> 01:40:20.720
First of all, I guess the main reason for

01:40:22.270 --> 01:40:24.900
this change is,

01:40:24.900 --> 01:40:26.310
let me back up just a bit.

01:40:26.310 --> 01:40:27.920
The process we have gone through

01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:29.630
is we have worked really hard to try to get

01:40:29.630 --> 01:40:31.220
as much stakeholder engagement,

01:40:31.220 --> 01:40:32.890
involvement as possible.

01:40:32.890 --> 01:40:35.140
Through this process we've engaged

01:40:35.140 --> 01:40:38.010
all of our executive directors from our service centers,

01:40:38.010 --> 01:40:39.600
board members from across the State.

01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:41.300
We did have a board advisory council

01:40:41.300 --> 01:40:45.440
that had around 20, 22-ish members

01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:47.690
that served on that, as well as

01:40:47.690 --> 01:40:50.040
having conversations with other superintendents

01:40:50.040 --> 01:40:51.550
and board members from across the State.

01:40:51.550 --> 01:40:54.840
So the amendments that were brought to the committee

01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:55.673
were a,

01:40:58.060 --> 01:41:01.380
hopefully, the work was done to be reflective

01:41:01.380 --> 01:41:02.550
of the comments and feedback

01:41:02.550 --> 01:41:04.200
that we've heard across the State.

01:41:04.200 --> 01:41:06.880
We did have unanimous consent

01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:10.910
and support for the amendment as presented

01:41:10.910 --> 01:41:13.920
from all 20 executive directors from our service centers.

01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:16.080
I think that's fairly rare

01:41:16.080 --> 01:41:18.870
when you go around the entire State of Texas

01:41:18.870 --> 01:41:22.020
to have all 20 supportive of the rule as proposed.

01:41:22.020 --> 01:41:24.280
We did have a board advisory council.

01:41:24.280 --> 01:41:25.113
It was

01:41:26.650 --> 01:41:28.510
Dr. Robinson I'll say, he was

01:41:28.510 --> 01:41:30.610
tried to make very, very clear

01:41:30.610 --> 01:41:32.280
on several, several occasions

01:41:32.280 --> 01:41:35.700
with several opportunities for conversations

01:41:35.700 --> 01:41:37.220
of that board advisory council

01:41:37.220 --> 01:41:39.930
to make sure that it was a unanimous decision

01:41:39.930 --> 01:41:41.110
amongst all of those members

01:41:41.110 --> 01:41:42.210
to bring that forward.

01:41:43.420 --> 01:41:45.410
There was testifier that was there

01:41:45.410 --> 01:41:47.700
was on that committee that even testified

01:41:47.700 --> 01:41:49.450
to make sure that was clear

01:41:49.450 --> 01:41:52.820
that it was unanimous for all those members

01:41:52.820 --> 01:41:54.020
on that committee.

01:41:56.030 --> 01:41:58.800
The two big rubbing points were this one

01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:02.590
with the authorized provider versus registered provider.

01:42:02.590 --> 01:42:05.360
Right now the registered provider,

01:42:05.360 --> 01:42:06.820
as Dr. Ellis explained,

01:42:06.820 --> 01:42:08.600
in order to become a registered provider

01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:10.920
you go online to our website,

01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:12.600
you complete a form

01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.110
and then you become a registered provider.

01:42:15.110 --> 01:42:16.480
We feel very strongly,

01:42:16.480 --> 01:42:18.450
and it was felt strongly in these committees

01:42:18.450 --> 01:42:19.690
that that's not the threshold

01:42:19.690 --> 01:42:21.130
that we wanna set across the State

01:42:21.130 --> 01:42:23.650
for team-building for our board members.

01:42:23.650 --> 01:42:26.350
Because we want to improve our student outcomes.

01:42:26.350 --> 01:42:29.020
We don't want to put the training

01:42:29.020 --> 01:42:31.120
that is as important as team-building

01:42:31.120 --> 01:42:34.080
into the place where it's

01:42:34.080 --> 01:42:35.920
honestly more convenient for adults

01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:37.530
because it's a registered provider.

01:42:37.530 --> 01:42:39.790
We wanna make sure the training providers

01:42:39.790 --> 01:42:41.460
that are in front of school boards

01:42:41.460 --> 01:42:42.780
actually understand and know

01:42:42.780 --> 01:42:44.880
the components of State accountability.

01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:47.920
They understand the components of team-building.

01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.210
They understand the components of the Open Meetings Act.

01:42:51.210 --> 01:42:53.390
Because of House Bill 3,

01:42:53.390 --> 01:42:55.760
and boards now taking a more active role

01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:58.850
and having to adopt plans that have specific goals

01:42:58.850 --> 01:43:00.220
within those plans.

01:43:01.130 --> 01:43:04.850
There are items that can and cannot be discussed

01:43:04.850 --> 01:43:07.620
in regional meetings versus a local meeting.

01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:09.910
And that's,

01:43:09.910 --> 01:43:12.470
that can put boards in a compromising position

01:43:12.470 --> 01:43:14.520
if they start discussing specifics of goals

01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:17.740
in a regional setting versus a local setting

01:43:17.740 --> 01:43:19.290
within the district boundaries.

01:43:20.752 --> 01:43:22.240
A lot of the registered providers,

01:43:22.240 --> 01:43:24.160
board members, superintendents trust their judgment

01:43:24.160 --> 01:43:26.190
expect them to know what criteria

01:43:26.190 --> 01:43:28.240
the training needs to be set around.

01:43:28.240 --> 01:43:31.230
And they can get our boards in trouble

01:43:31.230 --> 01:43:34.360
if the trainings aren't done accurately

01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:35.310
and posted correctly.

01:43:35.310 --> 01:43:37.800
So that's another reason for the authorized providers.

01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:39.010
They will go through

01:43:39.010 --> 01:43:41.840
the process to become an authorized provider,

01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:44.900
is go through a training course.

01:43:44.900 --> 01:43:48.490
And then there is an exam at the end of that course.

01:43:48.490 --> 01:43:49.830
It's 25-question exam,

01:43:49.830 --> 01:43:53.550
you're able to view some of those questions.

01:43:53.550 --> 01:43:56.630
Our hope is to build out that test bank even further

01:43:56.630 --> 01:43:59.160
to include more and more of the criteria

01:43:59.160 --> 01:44:01.700
of team-building credit as well.

01:44:03.350 --> 01:44:04.400
I don't know if that helped answer

01:44:04.400 --> 01:44:06.743
some of the process we've gone through to do that.

01:44:06.743 --> 01:44:08.190
But ask questions.
<v ->Sure,</v>

01:44:08.190 --> 01:44:10.020
I have a question, Dr. Howard, first though

01:44:10.020 --> 01:44:12.650
and then we'll call on the other members.

01:44:12.650 --> 01:44:16.460
What portion of the training that currently exists

01:44:16.460 --> 01:44:18.330
to become an authorized provider

01:44:18.330 --> 01:44:20.230
deals specifically with team-building.

01:44:21.140 --> 01:44:22.960
<v ->Yeah, so, the</v>

01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.510
the 1566 required training,

01:44:25.510 --> 01:44:28.430
Evaluating and Improving Student Outcomes deals with,

01:44:28.430 --> 01:44:31.340
the new content of that training deals with

01:44:31.340 --> 01:44:34.400
basically the vision and the accountability parts

01:44:34.400 --> 01:44:36.500
of the State board framework.

01:44:36.500 --> 01:44:38.750
So understanding the State accountability system,

01:44:38.750 --> 01:44:41.510
local accountability, as well as

01:44:43.100 --> 01:44:45.410
setting good goals and what are best practices

01:44:45.410 --> 01:44:47.630
and setting goals and monitoring those goals.

01:44:47.630 --> 01:44:50.310
So it's really focused on those two areas.

01:44:50.310 --> 01:44:52.350
<v Vice Chair>So is there no percentage of that then</v>

01:44:52.350 --> 01:44:55.210
that deals specifically with team-building?

01:44:55.210 --> 01:44:56.790
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->That was my question.</v>

01:44:56.790 --> 01:44:59.430
What portion of the current training

01:44:59.430 --> 01:45:00.990
to become an authorized provider

01:45:00.990 --> 01:45:03.670
specifically deals with team-building

01:45:03.670 --> 01:45:05.930
as compared to the other two elements

01:45:05.930 --> 01:45:07.110
you just described.
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:45:07.110 --> 01:45:09.150
So the training to become an authorized provider

01:45:09.150 --> 01:45:09.983
that has changed.

01:45:09.983 --> 01:45:11.520
In the past it was basically

01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:13.300
just understand the accountability system,

01:45:13.300 --> 01:45:16.220
pass the test, you're an authorized provider.

01:45:16.220 --> 01:45:19.900
Now with the content of the 1566 training changing

01:45:19.900 --> 01:45:21.780
as well as adding team-building

01:45:21.780 --> 01:45:23.480
we go through a process through the training

01:45:23.480 --> 01:45:25.170
for the trainers to become familiar

01:45:25.170 --> 01:45:27.370
with the latest research in board development,

01:45:27.370 --> 01:45:28.780
what board members can actually do

01:45:28.780 --> 01:45:30.290
to improve student outcomes.

01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:32.560
The research,

01:45:33.730 --> 01:45:35.620
15, 16 studies that have been done,

01:45:35.620 --> 01:45:38.850
the research comes down to three main areas.

01:45:38.850 --> 01:45:40.690
One is goal setting.

01:45:40.690 --> 01:45:44.340
Two is understanding the values of the community,

01:45:44.340 --> 01:45:46.790
how do we stay within those boundaries of those values.

01:45:46.790 --> 01:45:49.540
And then third is monitoring the process along the way.

01:45:50.390 --> 01:45:52.770
All of that has a precursor though in research.

01:45:52.770 --> 01:45:54.880
And that's working collaboratively together

01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:57.750
as board members with the superintendent.

01:45:57.750 --> 01:46:00.410
And if that is not in place,

01:46:00.410 --> 01:46:03.190
you don't get to the other stuff very easily.

01:46:03.190 --> 01:46:05.190
So the part of the training

01:46:05.190 --> 01:46:07.180
that is expanding into the team-building

01:46:07.180 --> 01:46:09.720
is making sure we understand the research

01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:13.050
and how do we use the State board framework

01:46:13.050 --> 01:46:15.140
to develop a customized training

01:46:15.140 --> 01:46:17.210
for that individual board.

01:46:17.210 --> 01:46:18.660
<v ->Can you give me a percentage</v>

01:46:18.660 --> 01:46:22.900
of that current training that deals with team-building?

01:46:25.320 --> 01:46:27.590
<v ->So how much of, let me make sure I understand you so the--</v>

01:46:27.590 --> 01:46:29.470
<v ->Yeah, my question is--</v>
<v ->How much of the training</v>

01:46:29.470 --> 01:46:31.070
is the team-building part of

01:46:31.070 --> 01:46:32.500
the training they go through?
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:46:32.500 --> 01:46:34.100
Specifically dealing with team-building.

01:46:34.100 --> 01:46:34.933
I understand,

01:46:35.780 --> 01:46:37.290
dealing with outcomes and accountability

01:46:37.290 --> 01:46:38.123
and that type of thing

01:46:38.123 --> 01:46:39.170
you're going to be some

01:46:39.170 --> 01:46:41.360
ramifications of team-building in that.

01:46:41.360 --> 01:46:42.330
But I'm just wondering

01:46:42.330 --> 01:46:44.090
in terms of the material that's covered

01:46:44.090 --> 01:46:46.030
to become an authorized provider,

01:46:46.030 --> 01:46:48.610
what percentage of that deals with team-building.

01:46:48.610 --> 01:46:50.220
<v ->Yeah, so, the plan is</v>

01:46:50.220 --> 01:46:52.100
we don't have it completely fully developed yet

01:46:52.100 --> 01:46:55.470
but the plan is for it to be about 50-50%.

01:46:55.470 --> 01:46:56.700
So half of the training

01:46:56.700 --> 01:46:57.970
to become an authorized provider

01:46:57.970 --> 01:47:00.020
is based on the framework, the team-building,

01:47:00.020 --> 01:47:01.260
the components of making sure

01:47:01.260 --> 01:47:03.480
we're within the legalities of

01:47:03.480 --> 01:47:05.000
the team-building training.

01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.500
And then the other half of the training covers the

01:47:08.850 --> 01:47:10.640
1566 required training

01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:12.590
which is the other one for authorized providers

01:47:12.590 --> 01:47:14.720
on accountability, goal setting,

01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:16.670
and goal monitoring.
<v ->How about</v>

01:47:16.670 --> 01:47:19.430
as it currently exists?
<v ->As it currently exists</v>

01:47:19.430 --> 01:47:21.630
team-building has not been able to be

01:47:21.630 --> 01:47:23.450
or has not been in rule as provided

01:47:23.450 --> 01:47:24.660
by an authorized provider.

01:47:24.660 --> 01:47:27.840
So 100% of it is on,
<v ->The other aspects.</v>

01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:29.440
<v ->Accountability and goal setting.</v>

01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:31.130
<v ->Perfect, okay, thank you very much.</v>

01:47:31.130 --> 01:47:33.360
Dr. Robinson then Ms. Bahorich.

01:47:33.360 --> 01:47:34.330
Sure.

01:47:34.330 --> 01:47:35.179
Well.

01:47:35.179 --> 01:47:39.270
(Ms. Bahorich speaking indistinctly)

01:47:39.270 --> 01:47:40.240
Microphone please.

01:47:42.150 --> 01:47:43.330
How about turning on your microphone

01:47:43.330 --> 01:47:44.570
and repeating that question?

01:47:44.570 --> 01:47:46.860
<v ->I was just saying so,</v>

01:47:46.860 --> 01:47:48.510
this rule would come in effect...

01:47:50.740 --> 01:47:53.540
When?

01:47:53.540 --> 01:47:56.230
<v ->It depends on the percentages of your vote.</v>

01:47:56.230 --> 01:47:57.540
So I believe I'm,

01:47:57.540 --> 01:47:59.400
well Von's not there now but--

01:47:59.400 --> 01:48:00.470
<v ->Well if it's a two-thirds.</v>

01:48:00.470 --> 01:48:02.390
If it's two-thirds vote--
<v ->It's two-thirds it's 20 days</v>

01:48:02.390 --> 01:48:03.880
and then it becomes in effect.

01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:08.390
If not, I believe it is September 1st.

01:48:08.390 --> 01:48:09.223
Am I right on that?

01:48:09.223 --> 01:48:11.510
Okay.
<v ->So the exam,</v>

01:48:11.510 --> 01:48:15.520
that we saw a copy of back there,

01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:18.900
would be what would be given starting 20 days from now?

01:48:19.830 --> 01:48:21.490
<v ->Yeah, so we're currently</v>

01:48:21.490 --> 01:48:25.250
it would be similar but we're working on a test bank

01:48:25.250 --> 01:48:26.940
with more of the team-building questions in.

01:48:26.940 --> 01:48:29.210
There'll be a random 25 questions of,

01:48:29.210 --> 01:48:32.010
our hope is to have a 100-question bank

01:48:32.010 --> 01:48:36.350
that you randomly get 25 questions on the exam.

01:48:36.350 --> 01:48:40.440
<v ->Okay, but you don't have the training set up yet,</v>

01:48:41.460 --> 01:48:42.293
correct?

01:48:43.330 --> 01:48:45.570
<v ->We have not offered the training yet,</v>

01:48:45.570 --> 01:48:46.460
that is correct.

01:48:46.460 --> 01:48:50.260
But we are currently putting all of that together.

01:48:50.260 --> 01:48:52.220
A lot of different components are together

01:48:52.220 --> 01:48:53.850
we just have to mesh it together

01:48:53.850 --> 01:48:54.800
and be ready to go.

01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:56.760
The first training on it is

01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.000
actually scheduled next Tuesday

01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.210
for our current authorized providers

01:49:01.210 --> 01:49:03.640
to update them on all the new material

01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:06.070
that they'll need to move forward.

01:49:06.070 --> 01:49:07.820
<v Vice Chair>Dr. Robinson.</v>

01:49:07.820 --> 01:49:09.650
And then Mr. Ellis.
<v ->I have three questions</v>

01:49:09.650 --> 01:49:12.720
one, the education service centers

01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.310
are they funded by the TEA?

01:49:17.260 --> 01:49:21.240
<v ->Service centers are funded very differently.</v>

01:49:21.240 --> 01:49:22.980
Most of their funding, I believe, comes from

01:49:22.980 --> 01:49:24.610
and don't quote me on all this,

01:49:24.610 --> 01:49:26.060
but I believe comes from

01:49:26.060 --> 01:49:28.030
the actual services they provide to districts

01:49:28.030 --> 01:49:29.160
through contracts that they make

01:49:29.160 --> 01:49:30.610
with local school districts.

01:49:30.610 --> 01:49:31.450
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:49:31.450 --> 01:49:33.262
And is it correct that

01:49:33.262 --> 01:49:36.220
the board Houston ISD received

01:49:36.220 --> 01:49:37.550
Lone Star Governance training

01:49:37.550 --> 01:49:38.990
in the last year or two,

01:49:38.990 --> 01:49:39.840
or year recently?

01:49:40.940 --> 01:49:43.950
<v ->That would be yes.</v>
<v ->And South San ISD board</v>

01:49:43.950 --> 01:49:47.070
have they received Lone Star Governance training?

01:49:47.070 --> 01:49:47.970
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>
<v ->Great.</v>

01:49:47.970 --> 01:49:51.520
So is there evidence that shows that

01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:55.440
Lone Star Governance training improves student outcomes?

01:49:55.440 --> 01:49:57.890
<v ->Yes, sir, I would--</v>
<v ->'Cause I've not seen that</v>

01:49:57.890 --> 01:50:00.910
y'all did not present that to us.

01:50:00.910 --> 01:50:02.690
<v ->You should've had that provided to you.</v>

01:50:02.690 --> 01:50:03.566
But I'll make sure you get it.

01:50:03.566 --> 01:50:06.050
Yes we have some research that was done over,

01:50:06.050 --> 01:50:08.040
from 2018 to 2019.

01:50:08.040 --> 01:50:10.140
Now here's the caveat,

01:50:10.140 --> 01:50:11.890
and I always say it's like going to church camp.

01:50:11.890 --> 01:50:13.120
You go to church camp for a week

01:50:13.120 --> 01:50:13.953
and you come back.

01:50:13.953 --> 01:50:15.490
So you go to the two-day workshop

01:50:15.490 --> 01:50:17.690
you come back and you don't change anything,

01:50:18.830 --> 01:50:20.700
was church camp worth it or not?

01:50:20.700 --> 01:50:21.770
That's the question.

01:50:21.770 --> 01:50:22.880
<v ->Well that's my point,</v>
<v ->What the data--</v>

01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:24.160
<v ->about the boards that are dysfunctional</v>

01:50:24.160 --> 01:50:25.090
that I made earlier

01:50:25.090 --> 01:50:27.190
is that if they're severely dysfunctional

01:50:27.190 --> 01:50:29.100
it doesn't really matter what,

01:50:29.100 --> 01:50:31.280
a lot of times what training they get.

01:50:31.280 --> 01:50:32.690
So.
<v ->Well the</v>

01:50:32.690 --> 01:50:35.800
the difference is the continual engagement with a coach.

01:50:36.900 --> 01:50:39.110
If a board chooses to engage with a coach

01:50:39.110 --> 01:50:40.300
for the two-day workshop

01:50:40.300 --> 01:50:41.330
and then doesn't engage

01:50:41.330 --> 01:50:43.380
and continually move forward with that coach

01:50:43.380 --> 01:50:45.120
and have continual coaching,

01:50:45.120 --> 01:50:46.630
it doesn't make a difference.

01:50:46.630 --> 01:50:48.880
But what we have seen in Lone Star Governance was

01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:50.620
when the boards make the commitment

01:50:50.620 --> 01:50:53.480
to continue to engage with a coach ongoing

01:50:53.480 --> 01:50:55.750
with that support and training

01:50:55.750 --> 01:50:59.340
it makes a significant difference above the State average.

01:50:59.340 --> 01:51:00.173
We saw

01:51:01.300 --> 01:51:03.230
about two, a little over two times

01:51:03.230 --> 01:51:04.840
the increase from the districts

01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:07.120
that continue to engage with a coach

01:51:07.120 --> 01:51:09.720
over the State average and accountability gains.

01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:11.780
<v Vice Chair>Okay.</v>

01:51:11.780 --> 01:51:13.100
Dr. Ellis.
<v ->Dr. Howard,</v>

01:51:13.100 --> 01:51:15.530
this question is specifically feeding off

01:51:15.530 --> 01:51:17.090
of what Ms. Bahorich asked about on

01:51:17.090 --> 01:51:18.390
the dates of implementation.

01:51:18.390 --> 01:51:22.280
And this is a question that I came up with is

01:51:22.280 --> 01:51:24.060
if this is implemented in 20 days,

01:51:25.290 --> 01:51:27.800
when do school boards have to report if

01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:30.970
their members don't complete the required training

01:51:30.970 --> 01:51:31.803
to the public?

01:51:31.803 --> 01:51:33.330
Is that before then,

01:51:33.330 --> 01:51:35.580
an X amount of days before the next election?

01:51:36.590 --> 01:51:39.070
<v ->It's the board meeting prior to their election</v>

01:51:39.070 --> 01:51:41.800
they report the training hours

01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:43.370
of board members in their board minutes.

01:51:43.370 --> 01:51:44.310
<v ->So help me think through this,</v>

01:51:44.310 --> 01:51:46.770
I'm trying to make sure that we don't set up

01:51:46.770 --> 01:51:48.040
some school board members

01:51:48.040 --> 01:51:50.328
to be in a precarious situation.

01:51:50.328 --> 01:51:53.860
If we pass a new rule effective 20 days from today,

01:51:53.860 --> 01:51:56.600
it would have to be implemented by,

01:51:57.490 --> 01:51:59.110
what you just said, before election

01:51:59.110 --> 01:52:01.230
which often time is in May.

01:52:01.230 --> 01:52:03.830
Is that something we haven't thought about?

01:52:03.830 --> 01:52:04.880
<v ->We actually have,</v>

01:52:05.730 --> 01:52:07.840
actually this morning that was brought to our attention.

01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:08.940
So not til this morning

01:52:08.940 --> 01:52:11.910
but we're trying to get legal counsel on

01:52:13.180 --> 01:52:15.040
would it be appropriate to give guidance

01:52:15.040 --> 01:52:18.420
that this would go in to the first time it is reported

01:52:18.420 --> 01:52:20.320
would be before the November election.

01:52:22.320 --> 01:52:25.070
I mean, I can get the new requirements done in a month.

01:52:25.940 --> 01:52:29.230
<v ->So would that, I'm assuming, require</v>

01:52:29.230 --> 01:52:32.020
an amendment to our rule today

01:52:32.020 --> 01:52:33.980
to make sure we don't put those boards

01:52:33.980 --> 01:52:35.840
in that precarious situation?

01:52:37.360 --> 01:52:39.530
<v ->I don't have that answer for you Dr. Ellis.</v>

01:52:39.530 --> 01:52:41.090
<v ->I think, that's something else we have to?</v>

01:52:41.090 --> 01:52:43.180
<v ->All right, and so let me try to clarify that</v>

01:52:43.180 --> 01:52:44.600
so, if

01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:48.210
if we don't make the affirmative finding

01:52:48.210 --> 01:52:51.840
affirmative finding that immediate adoption is required,

01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:55.260
then it goes into effect during the normal course,

01:52:55.260 --> 01:52:56.940
after posting to the Texas Register

01:52:56.940 --> 01:52:58.620
which I'm assuming, September.

01:52:58.620 --> 01:52:59.460
Something like that.

01:52:59.460 --> 01:53:00.760
Is that correct?

01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:03.810
<v ->Yes, I believe and Monica can correct me</v>

01:53:03.810 --> 01:53:05.780
if it's not a two-thirds vote,

01:53:05.780 --> 01:53:08.350
or if you don't specify that it goes in

01:53:08.350 --> 01:53:10.650
in the 20-day period it would be effective

01:53:10.650 --> 01:53:12.820
as of September 1st.
<v ->Okay, so it's effect</v>

01:53:12.820 --> 01:53:14.480
if it's effective September 1st

01:53:14.480 --> 01:53:17.500
then the reporting requirement

01:53:17.500 --> 01:53:20.640
would not be until May of 2021?

01:53:22.060 --> 01:53:23.610
I'm sorry.
<v ->Say that again I'm sorry.</v>

01:53:23.610 --> 01:53:25.120
<v ->Well so then if we don't,</v>

01:53:26.110 --> 01:53:29.700
if we don't take action, take immediate action

01:53:29.700 --> 01:53:31.650
then it goes into effect September 1 then

01:53:31.650 --> 01:53:33.650
so the reporting requirement would be

01:53:33.650 --> 01:53:34.960
before the following May?

01:53:36.160 --> 01:53:37.020
2021?

01:53:38.040 --> 01:53:40.500
If it's the election?
<v ->The reporting requirement is</v>

01:53:40.500 --> 01:53:42.240
the month before your board elections.

01:53:42.240 --> 01:53:43.510
<v ->Okay, so it would--</v>

01:53:43.510 --> 01:53:46.020
<v ->And then, what I was just informed is</v>

01:53:46.020 --> 01:53:48.080
I believe you can set an effective date

01:53:48.080 --> 01:53:50.980
that you want it to go into.
<v ->We can set</v>

01:53:50.980 --> 01:53:53.250
an effective date ourselves?
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

01:53:53.250 --> 01:53:55.980
<v ->Okay, if we were wanting to set an effective date</v>

01:53:55.980 --> 01:53:59.940
that would not put school districts in a

01:53:59.940 --> 01:54:02.030
too much of a time crunch,

01:54:02.030 --> 01:54:06.240
when should that be?

01:54:06.240 --> 01:54:08.290
<v ->I would say if,</v>

01:54:08.290 --> 01:54:09.820
let me think through that but,

01:54:09.820 --> 01:54:11.380
if elections are in May

01:54:11.380 --> 01:54:14.590
and it's the meeting in the prior month

01:54:14.590 --> 01:54:16.850
then if you made an effective date of May 1st

01:54:16.850 --> 01:54:19.480
then the April board meeting

01:54:19.480 --> 01:54:22.240
when board hours are reported,

01:54:23.250 --> 01:54:25.650
it'd be on the prior rule instead of the current rule.

01:54:25.650 --> 01:54:27.991
<v ->And go forward after that?</v>

01:54:27.991 --> 01:54:28.824
Okay.

01:54:28.824 --> 01:54:31.240
That takes another amendment I guess, but.

01:54:31.240 --> 01:54:32.950
Dr. Ellis.
<v ->I may call on Ms. Martinez</v>

01:54:32.950 --> 01:54:34.447
who is not an attorney but plays one

01:54:34.447 --> 01:54:35.791
when our attorney is out of the room.

01:54:35.791 --> 01:54:38.540
(members laughing)

01:54:38.540 --> 01:54:40.820
To the question of, if,

01:54:41.750 --> 01:54:43.760
I wanna sort through this fact,

01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.060
I had talked about if this doesn't

01:54:46.060 --> 01:54:49.380
if my motion prevails, coming immediately back

01:54:49.380 --> 01:54:51.700
and working on reworking this entire process,

01:54:51.700 --> 01:54:53.890
the framework, 61.1.4,

01:54:56.070 --> 01:54:59.400
the new testing, the new requirements and so forth,

01:54:59.400 --> 01:55:01.170
but that rule cannot be opened up

01:55:01.170 --> 01:55:05.510
until after implementation, or after adoption.

01:55:05.510 --> 01:55:07.270
So would that freeze us for a while

01:55:07.270 --> 01:55:08.780
if that gets put off?

01:55:08.780 --> 01:55:10.660
<v ->So it would be,</v>

01:55:10.660 --> 01:55:13.040
it's all tied to the effective date.

01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:15.410
And so any rule that you have,

01:55:15.410 --> 01:55:19.760
so let's say that you adopt this rule 61.1

01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:23.020
and it doesn't become effective until September 1,

01:55:23.020 --> 01:55:25.110
then you can't reopen it

01:55:25.110 --> 01:55:26.570
and make additional amendments

01:55:26.570 --> 01:55:28.860
until after it becomes effective.

01:55:28.860 --> 01:55:31.650
If you have an earlier effective date

01:55:31.650 --> 01:55:33.590
with a different implementation date

01:55:33.590 --> 01:55:35.000
then that's different.

01:55:37.590 --> 01:55:40.320
<v ->We could make it effective in 20 days</v>

01:55:40.320 --> 01:55:42.010
but then amend this motion

01:55:42.010 --> 01:55:44.780
to have a different implementation date

01:55:44.780 --> 01:55:46.360
beyond that, right?

01:55:48.550 --> 01:55:49.910
<v ->Right, so</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:55:50.950 --> 01:55:52.590
<v ->I'm gonna use something I'm much more familiar with</v>

01:55:52.590 --> 01:55:55.530
your essential knowledge and skills

01:55:55.530 --> 01:55:57.520
oftentimes you will identify,

01:55:57.520 --> 01:55:58.800
you'll have an effective date

01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:00.180
so the rule becomes effective,

01:56:00.180 --> 01:56:02.950
it's actually on the books, folks can see it,

01:56:02.950 --> 01:56:06.180
but then you'll identify a different implementation date.

01:56:06.180 --> 01:56:07.210
<v ->Okay, all right.</v>

01:56:07.210 --> 01:56:09.610
So let's take it one at a time though.

01:56:09.610 --> 01:56:12.810
Bear in mind the motion that's on the table currently

01:56:12.810 --> 01:56:16.180
is an amendment to subsection F

01:56:16.180 --> 01:56:17.860
dealing with the registered provider

01:56:17.860 --> 01:56:19.320
as compared to an authorized provider.

01:56:19.320 --> 01:56:20.410
So let's,

01:56:20.410 --> 01:56:22.790
let's restrict our discussion to that.

01:56:22.790 --> 01:56:25.210
Mr. Maynard, and then we'll deal with the other issue.

01:56:26.590 --> 01:56:29.460
<v ->And were we gonna hear from TASB, is that right?</v>

01:56:29.460 --> 01:56:31.610
<v ->We will, as soon as we're done with Dr. Howard.</v>

01:56:31.610 --> 01:56:32.600
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Anything further</v>

01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:33.433
of Dr. Howard?

01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:37.100
Well he can be on standby.
<v ->Yeah, that's right.</v>

01:56:37.100 --> 01:56:38.730
<v ->Okay, so Dr. Howard if you don't mind</v>

01:56:38.730 --> 01:56:41.460
just stay close, stay loose.

01:56:41.460 --> 01:56:43.330
And Mr. Gore.

01:56:43.330 --> 01:56:44.280
I'm assuming, yeah.

01:56:47.450 --> 01:56:50.670
Mr. Gore is the TASB person that we're wanting to have

01:56:51.890 --> 01:56:53.600
provide insight.

01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:54.820
Correct, Mr. Cortez?

01:56:56.666 --> 01:56:58.530
(Mr. Cortez speaking indistinctly)

01:56:58.530 --> 01:56:59.450
I don't know that either.

01:56:59.450 --> 01:57:01.760
<v ->I was absent yesterday.</v>
<v ->Chairman, just before</v>

01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:02.940
before that.

01:57:02.940 --> 01:57:07.860
So staff who works on rule-making did advise that

01:57:07.860 --> 01:57:09.920
if you're thinking about a different date

01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.030
as opposed to having the immediate effective date

01:57:13.030 --> 01:57:15.500
that it would be cleaner for you to identify

01:57:15.500 --> 01:57:17.650
the effective date that you want.

01:57:18.500 --> 01:57:21.160
The other thing that she reminded me

01:57:21.160 --> 01:57:25.390
is that you could have a discussion in April.

01:57:25.390 --> 01:57:29.170
You just can't proceed with action on first reading

01:57:29.170 --> 01:57:30.620
before an effective date.

01:57:30.620 --> 01:57:32.410
But if you wanted to continue discussion

01:57:32.410 --> 01:57:34.020
at your next meeting

01:57:34.020 --> 01:57:36.870
and you have identified a specific effective date,

01:57:36.870 --> 01:57:38.740
you could still do that,

01:57:38.740 --> 01:57:39.970
a later effective date, I should say.

01:57:39.970 --> 01:57:41.160
<v ->Okay, great, okay.</v>

01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:44.040
<v ->Yes sir, do you have--</v>

01:57:44.040 --> 01:57:46.210
<v ->Dr., could I speak on your</v>

01:57:46.210 --> 01:57:47.472
opening up that framework

01:57:47.472 --> 01:57:50.990
to look at how that.

01:57:50.990 --> 01:57:53.080
<v ->Well I'll tell you what, let's do this.</v>

01:57:53.080 --> 01:57:54.770
We're trying to stay,

01:57:54.770 --> 01:57:57.090
I mean, we're not gonna cut you off, of course.

01:57:57.090 --> 01:57:59.310
But, Dr. Gore or Mr. Gore?

01:57:59.310 --> 01:58:01.010
<v ->Dr. Gore.</v>
<v ->Dr. Gore, okay.</v>

01:58:01.010 --> 01:58:02.680
Phil, how about if you

01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:03.513
you go ahead and share

01:58:03.513 --> 01:58:05.430
and then we'll have Dr. Howard speak again

01:58:05.430 --> 01:58:06.275
if he needs to.
<v ->Sure, we can stand</v>

01:58:06.275 --> 01:58:07.580
side-by-side too.
<v ->You sure can.</v>

01:58:07.580 --> 01:58:08.580
Y'all can--
<v ->We've been sitting together.</v>

01:58:08.580 --> 01:58:09.940
<v ->That would be a good picture, in fact,</v>

01:58:09.940 --> 01:58:11.140
the both of you standing up there.

01:58:11.140 --> 01:58:13.620
<v ->So, I'm Dr. Phil Gore with TASB.</v>

01:58:13.620 --> 01:58:16.670
I'm the division director--
<v ->Your mic.</v>

01:58:16.670 --> 01:58:17.503
Light on?

01:58:21.047 --> 01:58:22.620
<v ->I'm Dr. Phil Gore with TASB.</v>

01:58:22.620 --> 01:58:24.304
I'm the division director

01:58:24.304 --> 01:58:26.474
for development services there.

01:58:26.474 --> 01:58:27.384
And,

01:58:27.384 --> 01:58:30.099
thank you for the opportunity to share with you.

01:58:30.099 --> 01:58:32.352
It's hard to know which piece to answer.

01:58:32.352 --> 01:58:36.785
So feel free if you have a specific question of me.

01:58:36.785 --> 01:58:40.133
Obviously, we're going to ask for

01:58:40.133 --> 01:58:45.133
as much local flexibility as you all can stand.

01:58:45.375 --> 01:58:47.470
It's flashing off and on.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

01:58:47.470 --> 01:58:50.223
<v Vice Chair>Yeah, there's a mess up there of some kind.</v>

01:58:50.223 --> 01:58:51.711
<v ->I put my phone away.</v>

01:58:51.711 --> 01:58:54.980
So, we appreciate the local flexibility

01:58:54.980 --> 01:58:57.110
greatly appreciate the sentiment

01:58:57.110 --> 01:58:59.600
of the particular motion here.

01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:01.090
And both items.

01:59:01.090 --> 01:59:02.000
One is,

01:59:03.940 --> 01:59:06.220
allowing boards some latitude

01:59:06.220 --> 01:59:07.870
until you get to a place where

01:59:07.870 --> 01:59:09.630
the State Board of Education framework

01:59:09.630 --> 01:59:11.990
for school board development is updated.

01:59:13.310 --> 01:59:15.710
We support that notion as well

01:59:15.710 --> 01:59:18.770
and hope to be a part of those conversations.

01:59:18.770 --> 01:59:20.970
With all of the discussion and rule-making

01:59:20.970 --> 01:59:23.290
and we've been with the Committee on School Initiatives

01:59:23.290 --> 01:59:24.940
since September on this one,

01:59:24.940 --> 01:59:26.990
so September, November and then yesterday

01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:30.300
we've asked for respect

01:59:30.300 --> 01:59:31.950
and opportunity for school boards

01:59:31.950 --> 01:59:34.340
as much as can be possibly extended,

01:59:34.340 --> 01:59:36.580
as Dr. Robinson intimated

01:59:36.580 --> 01:59:40.830
certainly there are a small percentage of school boards that

01:59:40.830 --> 01:59:43.070
have problems functioning well together.

01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:45.320
And those need to be addressed

01:59:45.320 --> 01:59:47.540
and they do become addressed by the agency.

01:59:48.380 --> 01:59:51.910
However, the vast majority of school boards across Texas

01:59:51.910 --> 01:59:53.460
are quite functional

01:59:53.460 --> 01:59:56.000
and deserve the opportunity and respect

01:59:56.000 --> 01:59:58.160
to seek out training providers,

01:59:58.160 --> 01:59:59.530
the type of training,

01:59:59.530 --> 02:00:00.750
the opportunity for training

02:00:00.750 --> 02:00:03.210
to meet the individual needs they have.

02:00:04.200 --> 02:00:07.290
And then, very curious in this amendment

02:00:07.290 --> 02:00:10.690
there are at least three online learning opportunities

02:00:10.690 --> 02:00:12.450
for school boards today on

02:00:14.243 --> 02:00:17.950
to have their Senate Bill 1566 training online.

02:00:17.950 --> 02:00:20.140
And so that's been an area of concern

02:00:20.140 --> 02:00:23.670
that in this proposal, that would not be allowed.

02:00:23.670 --> 02:00:25.910
I'm not sure why it wouldn't be allowed.

02:00:25.910 --> 02:00:27.840
And I think we have concerns that maybe

02:00:27.840 --> 02:00:30.640
eight or 10% of the trustees in the State have

02:00:31.600 --> 02:00:36.200
personal issues or financial, family issues

02:00:36.200 --> 02:00:37.210
where they're not ab--

02:00:37.210 --> 02:00:38.043
Excuse me.

02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:41.330
They're not able to travel away from their home

02:00:41.330 --> 02:00:43.920
to take part of training outside their district.

02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:47.560
So we're wondering if some accommodation could be made

02:00:47.560 --> 02:00:49.440
in those circumstances as well

02:00:50.430 --> 02:00:53.060
for people who cannot attend the regional training

02:00:53.060 --> 02:00:54.250
or conference training

02:00:54.250 --> 02:00:57.340
to get their Senate Bill 1566 training,

02:00:57.340 --> 02:00:59.290
if they could still do that online but.

02:01:00.400 --> 02:01:03.450
<v ->Okay, so when you're talking about the Senate 1566,</v>

02:01:03.450 --> 02:01:05.800
Senate Bill 1566 training,

02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:07.340
is that include team-building?

02:01:07.340 --> 02:01:08.660
<v ->No.</v>
<v ->It does not.</v>

02:01:08.660 --> 02:01:11.260
<v ->This is separate training required under your rules.</v>

02:01:11.260 --> 02:01:13.250
So team-building is required,

02:01:13.250 --> 02:01:16.290
Senate Bill 1566 training is required.

02:01:16.290 --> 02:01:18.800
The rule as it's currently stated today

02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:22.550
would allow for a board to participate in

02:01:22.550 --> 02:01:26.070
Senate Bill 1566 training in their district

02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:29.510
and count that as team-building training

02:01:29.510 --> 02:01:31.590
if they met also the requirements for

02:01:31.590 --> 02:01:33.220
team-building training.

02:01:33.220 --> 02:01:36.380
So that's where it becomes a little bit confusing.

02:01:36.380 --> 02:01:39.340
It is allowed in some circumstances but

02:01:39.340 --> 02:01:41.900
by statute in particular,

02:01:41.900 --> 02:01:44.250
but then also in your rule

02:01:44.250 --> 02:01:46.510
it is two different trainings that are asked for.

02:01:46.510 --> 02:01:50.570
<v ->So what is the effect of a registered provider</v>

02:01:50.570 --> 02:01:52.890
being allowed to do the team-building training

02:01:52.890 --> 02:01:56.420
as compared to an, what is it, authorized?

02:01:56.420 --> 02:01:57.570
What's the other?
<v ->Sure.</v>

02:01:57.570 --> 02:01:58.670
<v ->Authorized provider.</v>

02:01:58.670 --> 02:02:02.650
<v ->It allows for greater flexibility for the school district.</v>

02:02:02.650 --> 02:02:05.140
There is a limited cadre of folks

02:02:05.140 --> 02:02:07.470
who are authorized providers today.

02:02:07.470 --> 02:02:09.880
There was, TEA had a training of trainers

02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:13.400
and so there's a TEA approach to 1566 training

02:02:13.400 --> 02:02:14.530
that's authorized.

02:02:14.530 --> 02:02:18.990
And the Commissioner also extended TASB's approach to,

02:02:18.990 --> 02:02:23.620
there's process and rule for other people to have approved

02:02:23.620 --> 02:02:25.960
a course of study for 1566.

02:02:25.960 --> 02:02:30.190
So there essentially are only two different versions

02:02:30.190 --> 02:02:33.420
of Senate Bill 1566 training

02:02:33.420 --> 02:02:35.780
that are available to school districts today.

02:02:35.780 --> 02:02:37.950
And that is what it is.

02:02:37.950 --> 02:02:40.670
<v Vice Chair>That's TASB and Lone Star, I guess?</v>

02:02:40.670 --> 02:02:44.040
<v ->Well the training that the agency created</v>

02:02:44.040 --> 02:02:47.560
for Senate Bill 1566, yeah.
<v ->Okay, perfect.</v>

02:02:47.560 --> 02:02:49.070
Questions of Dr. Gore?

02:02:51.460 --> 02:02:52.293
Anyone?

02:02:52.293 --> 02:02:53.126
Mr. Cortez.

02:02:56.780 --> 02:02:59.110
<v ->How many districts do you think,</v>

02:02:59.110 --> 02:03:00.940
or what percentage of districts would be impacted

02:03:00.940 --> 02:03:02.820
by this inability to do this online,

02:03:03.890 --> 02:03:06.190
online training that you were talking about?

02:03:06.190 --> 02:03:07.740
There seems to be, I would imagine

02:03:07.740 --> 02:03:09.070
that's gonna be a bigger problem

02:03:09.070 --> 02:03:11.160
particularly in rural Texas?

02:03:12.610 --> 02:03:13.870
<v ->I think that would be our concern</v>

02:03:13.870 --> 02:03:14.860
that there are areas

02:03:14.860 --> 02:03:17.710
where it's more difficult to travel from and

02:03:17.710 --> 02:03:20.200
people's life situation if they're a rancher,

02:03:20.200 --> 02:03:22.260
a farmer, own a small business,

02:03:22.260 --> 02:03:23.690
hard to get away from.

02:03:23.690 --> 02:03:25.560
We know this Mr. Cortez

02:03:25.560 --> 02:03:28.070
that 7% of the trustees in the State

02:03:28.070 --> 02:03:31.590
have participated in our online version of the training.

02:03:31.590 --> 02:03:34.450
We don't know what percentage of trustees

02:03:34.450 --> 02:03:36.960
have also participated in the other two

02:03:36.960 --> 02:03:38.280
that we know that are available.

02:03:38.280 --> 02:03:39.560
One's through an ESC

02:03:39.560 --> 02:03:41.510
and one's through another organization.

02:03:42.630 --> 02:03:45.820
So at least 7% have participated in that

02:03:45.820 --> 02:03:47.460
in the last couple of years, online.

02:03:48.660 --> 02:03:50.950
<v ->And under this, they would just do away with</v>

02:03:50.950 --> 02:03:52.240
the online opportunity?

02:03:52.240 --> 02:03:53.970
<v ->Yeah, the way this rule is proposed</v>

02:03:53.970 --> 02:03:56.590
they would not have that opportunity at all

02:03:56.590 --> 02:03:58.460
under any circumstances.

02:03:58.460 --> 02:04:00.660
<v Mr. Cortez>Do you think that limits their,</v>

02:04:01.570 --> 02:04:03.410
their ability to be flexible

02:04:03.410 --> 02:04:05.660
and make their own decision at the local level?

02:04:05.660 --> 02:04:06.890
<v ->It does limit that--</v>
<v ->Which is kinda what we want</v>

02:04:06.890 --> 02:04:08.270
we want local boards to be able to--

02:04:08.270 --> 02:04:11.440
<v ->But it also creates a situation for those who</v>

02:04:11.440 --> 02:04:13.950
they simply won't be able to meet the requirement.

02:04:17.220 --> 02:04:19.420
And that's unfortunate.

02:04:19.420 --> 02:04:21.280
They're learning through that

02:04:21.280 --> 02:04:23.050
is also a loss, right.

02:04:23.920 --> 02:04:25.560
It's not simply meeting the requirement

02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:28.570
but what they actually learn.

02:04:28.570 --> 02:04:29.960
And I'm very intrigued that,

02:04:29.960 --> 02:04:31.830
you know online learning is not what it was

02:04:31.830 --> 02:04:33.530
when I was a grad school TEA

02:04:33.530 --> 02:04:34.780
and using blackboard

02:04:34.780 --> 02:04:38.050
and things that were kind of archaic and clumsy.

02:04:38.050 --> 02:04:39.300
Actually we know for a fact

02:04:39.300 --> 02:04:41.590
that many adults as well as children

02:04:41.590 --> 02:04:43.570
learn and retain more information

02:04:43.570 --> 02:04:44.590
when they learn online

02:04:44.590 --> 02:04:46.640
than when they do in a big group setting.

02:04:49.090 --> 02:04:50.880
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

02:04:50.880 --> 02:04:52.760
Mr. Robinson, just as an FYI

02:04:52.760 --> 02:04:53.940
Region One, as an example,

02:04:53.940 --> 02:04:56.740
has about $65 million annual budget.

02:04:58.380 --> 02:05:01.510
A little bit less than 1% is direct state funds.

02:05:02.400 --> 02:05:03.550
Just,

02:05:03.550 --> 02:05:05.370
that's just Region One, I don't know about the others.

02:05:05.370 --> 02:05:07.270
But I assume it's the same or worse.

02:05:08.190 --> 02:05:10.020
<v Vice Chair>Okay, Mr. Maynard.</v>

02:05:10.020 --> 02:05:11.150
<v ->Yeah, and I just,</v>

02:05:13.080 --> 02:05:15.880
I think that we're in some ways, and I'm

02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.180
have not been part of this discussion.

02:05:18.180 --> 02:05:19.660
And not been, again,

02:05:19.660 --> 02:05:22.340
like a lot of the members sitting around this circle,

02:05:22.340 --> 02:05:25.070
have not been privy to these ongoing discussions

02:05:25.070 --> 02:05:25.903
over

02:05:26.982 --> 02:05:28.590
the Committee on School Initiatives.

02:05:28.590 --> 02:05:30.220
And I'm just listening to you

02:05:30.220 --> 02:05:32.270
and I think we're kinda talking past each other

02:05:32.270 --> 02:05:34.520
a little bit.
<v ->Yep.</v>

02:05:34.520 --> 02:05:36.560
<v ->I'm just gonna ask a direct question</v>

02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:39.390
into the two of you:

02:05:39.390 --> 02:05:40.730
where,

02:05:40.730 --> 02:05:41.563
where,

02:05:42.630 --> 02:05:45.550
Dr. Gore do you differ

02:05:45.550 --> 02:05:47.280
with the staff recommendation.

02:05:47.280 --> 02:05:48.590
What exactly,

02:05:48.590 --> 02:05:50.710
what is the rub in this thing?

02:05:50.710 --> 02:05:52.500
What is the contention here?

02:05:53.590 --> 02:05:56.230
<v ->So there were those two separate areas.</v>

02:05:56.230 --> 02:05:57.660
One is the one that,

02:05:59.540 --> 02:06:01.970
Chairman Ellis has made an amendment on,

02:06:01.970 --> 02:06:04.460
this changing the registered provider

02:06:04.460 --> 02:06:06.960
for team-building training to authorized provider.

02:06:07.900 --> 02:06:11.460
That's one issue where we've not found resolution

02:06:11.460 --> 02:06:13.050
prior to this meeting.

02:06:13.050 --> 02:06:14.140
And then other was

02:06:14.140 --> 02:06:17.370
the opportunity for locally-elected school trustees

02:06:17.370 --> 02:06:22.087
to have their Senate Bill 1566 training online.

02:06:22.087 --> 02:06:23.963
Two totally separate issues.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:06:23.963 --> 02:06:25.120
<v ->And just, just,</v>

02:06:25.120 --> 02:06:26.130
I'm sorry to interrupt Mr. Maynard.

02:06:26.130 --> 02:06:28.010
But just to clarify,

02:06:28.010 --> 02:06:28.843
so,

02:06:29.890 --> 02:06:32.380
I think it's fine that we ask the testifiers

02:06:32.380 --> 02:06:34.440
questions about both of those areas right now

02:06:34.440 --> 02:06:36.280
'cause we've got them here.

02:06:36.280 --> 02:06:38.490
But what we'd need to do, I think,

02:06:38.490 --> 02:06:39.900
parliamentary procedure wise

02:06:39.900 --> 02:06:43.580
is deal with Dr. Ellis's proposed amendment.

02:06:43.580 --> 02:06:47.280
Then if there's an issue about the other aspect

02:06:47.280 --> 02:06:48.820
which has to do with online training,

02:06:48.820 --> 02:06:51.470
that would be the subject of a separate motion,

02:06:51.470 --> 02:06:52.940
I think, is that right?
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:06:52.940 --> 02:06:54.130
<v ->Ms. Crews?</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

02:06:54.130 --> 02:06:54.963
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Mr. Chairman.</v>

02:06:54.963 --> 02:06:56.720
<v ->But for now we've opened it up</v>

02:06:56.720 --> 02:06:57.990
because we've got the testifiers here.

02:06:57.990 --> 02:06:59.930
<v ->Right but we need to stay germane</v>

02:06:59.930 --> 02:07:01.170
Madam Parliamentarian.
<v ->Yes we do.</v>

02:07:01.170 --> 02:07:02.150
<v ->All right.</v>
<v ->Well, but,</v>

02:07:02.150 --> 02:07:03.230
but with the testifiers

02:07:03.230 --> 02:07:05.974
we're allowing questions on both aspects.

02:07:05.974 --> 02:07:07.550
<v ->And I,</v>

02:07:07.550 --> 02:07:10.220
and kinda what I'm picking up on this is that

02:07:10.220 --> 02:07:11.910
is is there really,

02:07:11.910 --> 02:07:13.800
is this the long-term,

02:07:13.800 --> 02:07:16.760
is is that you may not have a problem with

02:07:16.760 --> 02:07:18.540
requiring authorized trainers.

02:07:18.540 --> 02:07:21.060
But right now, where we are today with that

02:07:21.060 --> 02:07:22.400
is is that number one,

02:07:22.400 --> 02:07:25.150
and if I'm hearing this right is is that because,

02:07:26.080 --> 02:07:27.510
well what I'm hearing is is that

02:07:27.510 --> 02:07:29.600
as far as the training content,

02:07:31.280 --> 02:07:32.630
for team-building,

02:07:32.630 --> 02:07:33.480
it doesn't exist.

02:07:34.580 --> 02:07:37.350
What I'm hearing, I have in my notes is that well that

02:07:37.350 --> 02:07:39.810
yeah, it doesn't even exist.

02:07:39.810 --> 02:07:41.420
And so we're talking about something

02:07:41.420 --> 02:07:44.130
and we're talking about implementing something

02:07:44.130 --> 02:07:46.170
for training that doesn't exist.

02:07:46.170 --> 02:07:47.660
And, and, and then,

02:07:48.710 --> 02:07:49.670
as the rule's written

02:07:49.670 --> 02:07:52.350
and particularly if we don't put an effective date on that

02:07:52.350 --> 02:07:55.880
is is that we're requiring something that doesn't exist.

02:07:55.880 --> 02:07:56.713
Essentially.

02:07:56.713 --> 02:07:58.220
Is that,

02:07:58.220 --> 02:07:59.730
am I understanding that correctly?

02:07:59.730 --> 02:08:02.170
<v ->Can Drew address that?</v>
<v ->That's the question</v>

02:08:02.170 --> 02:08:05.020
that I was trying to ask of Dr. Howard

02:08:05.020 --> 02:08:08.370
as to what portion of the authorized training

02:08:08.370 --> 02:08:10.000
is devoted to team-building.

02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:13.550
And what I heard at this point was none right now

02:08:13.550 --> 02:08:15.900
but if you wanna clarify that.
<v ->And if I can just</v>

02:08:15.900 --> 02:08:18.580
follow up on that and just as a question to that

02:08:18.580 --> 02:08:20.310
is is that, so you can address that too,

02:08:20.310 --> 02:08:23.620
and of course, the other issue too is is that well that,

02:08:23.620 --> 02:08:25.530
that we can,

02:08:25.530 --> 02:08:29.810
that there's also the prospect of,

02:08:29.810 --> 02:08:32.320
we've got plenty of registered providers

02:08:33.310 --> 02:08:37.390
but the system is gonna have to catch up over time

02:08:37.390 --> 02:08:41.090
to have enough authorized providers,

02:08:41.090 --> 02:08:43.380
how many school boards do we have in the State?

02:08:44.976 --> 02:08:47.330
<v ->A total of 1,204, I think.</v>
<v ->1,204,</v>

02:08:47.330 --> 02:08:48.370
and say okay.

02:08:48.370 --> 02:08:51.630
So, it's gonna take a little bit of time

02:08:51.630 --> 02:08:53.680
for the marketplace to respond to that

02:08:54.530 --> 02:08:55.830
otherwise is that it

02:08:55.830 --> 02:08:58.280
it may not even be possible

02:08:58.280 --> 02:09:01.010
we may not even have enough people to even do that.

02:09:01.010 --> 02:09:02.840
Okay.
<v ->Well, I'll address both.</v>

02:09:02.840 --> 02:09:05.630
One, there is a curriculum for the team-building training.

02:09:05.630 --> 02:09:07.930
It's called Your State Board of Education

02:09:07.930 --> 02:09:09.890
Board Development Framework.

02:09:09.890 --> 02:09:14.580
So there are trainers that have already done training.

02:09:14.580 --> 02:09:17.020
Training has been delivered on that framework

02:09:18.110 --> 02:09:19.890
since 1996, I believe.

02:09:21.470 --> 02:09:25.730
So, the content of what is in that training is there.

02:09:25.730 --> 02:09:28.470
It's been delivered in multiple different ways.

02:09:28.470 --> 02:09:30.300
What I was trying to say earlier

02:09:30.300 --> 02:09:32.870
is the one training is not complete

02:09:32.870 --> 02:09:34.600
of what we're gonna give.

02:09:34.600 --> 02:09:37.100
All the components of the training are there.

02:09:37.100 --> 02:09:37.933
It'll take

02:09:38.970 --> 02:09:41.670
a few hours to just sit down and put it together

02:09:41.670 --> 02:09:43.820
and then be ready to go 'cause

02:09:43.820 --> 02:09:45.770
honestly, I'll be the one delivering that training.

02:09:45.770 --> 02:09:49.030
So it's just put it together and be ready to go.

02:09:49.030 --> 02:09:53.020
On the numbers of authorized versus registered providers,

02:09:53.020 --> 02:09:54.160
we have about

02:09:54.160 --> 02:09:58.680
450-ish registered providers

02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:00.210
across the State of Texas.

02:10:00.210 --> 02:10:01.260
And I,

02:10:02.228 --> 02:10:05.510
I just wanna be clear and make sure you understand that

02:10:05.510 --> 02:10:08.250
when you go to become a registered provider

02:10:08.250 --> 02:10:09.970
you go online, fill out the form

02:10:09.970 --> 02:10:11.880
and you're a registered provider.

02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:15.470
There is 130 authorized providers

02:10:15.470 --> 02:10:18.460
that have gone through this process.

02:10:18.460 --> 02:10:20.450
In the team-building credit

02:10:20.450 --> 02:10:23.190
about 75% of all school boards around the State

02:10:23.190 --> 02:10:24.890
receive that credit from

02:10:24.890 --> 02:10:26.710
the Educational Service Centers.

02:10:26.710 --> 02:10:28.330
I believe, and Phil could speak to this a little more,

02:10:28.330 --> 02:10:30.510
but I believe about 10% or so

02:10:30.510 --> 02:10:32.350
get it delivered from TASB.

02:10:32.350 --> 02:10:33.270
Close to that?

02:10:33.270 --> 02:10:34.610
And then,

02:10:34.610 --> 02:10:37.410
so about 85% of all school boards

02:10:37.410 --> 02:10:40.010
already get it from your service centers and TASB

02:10:40.010 --> 02:10:43.880
who have capacity of authorized providers

02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:47.240
that will be able to get the updates quickly

02:10:47.240 --> 02:10:49.370
and already have the knowledge and skills.

02:10:49.370 --> 02:10:52.930
They could sit down and pass the exam right now,

02:10:52.930 --> 02:10:55.940
because we have competent authorized providers.

02:10:55.940 --> 02:10:58.360
So the capacity issue is honestly one

02:10:58.360 --> 02:11:01.010
that I'm not concerned about

02:11:01.010 --> 02:11:02.590
because we'll be able to deliver

02:11:02.590 --> 02:11:03.890
that team-building credit.

02:11:07.330 --> 02:11:09.130
But it will help ensure

02:11:09.130 --> 02:11:11.340
and raise the level and raise the bar

02:11:11.340 --> 02:11:12.530
of the school boards

02:11:12.530 --> 02:11:15.080
who are not getting that team-building credit

02:11:15.080 --> 02:11:16.370
through an authorized provider

02:11:16.370 --> 02:11:19.330
that we will have a competent trainer there

02:11:19.330 --> 02:11:22.130
that has at least proven that they understand the content

02:11:22.130 --> 02:11:23.260
to pass that exam

02:11:23.260 --> 02:11:26.060
so that the right information is delivered

02:11:26.060 --> 02:11:27.960
to all of our boards across the State.

02:11:28.810 --> 02:11:31.030
Another--
<v ->Just as a follow-up</v>

02:11:31.030 --> 02:11:33.840
is is that what I heard you say is is that

02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:35.900
the plan was to have it about 50-50

02:11:35.900 --> 02:11:37.680
but it didn't exist today.

02:11:37.680 --> 02:11:38.870
Is that what I?

02:11:38.870 --> 02:11:42.120
<v ->The plan is to have the material covered</v>

02:11:42.120 --> 02:11:46.210
in the authorized provider training be on one side,

02:11:46.210 --> 02:11:48.840
the accountability system, the goal setting,

02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:51.060
the House Bill 3 current requirements

02:11:51.060 --> 02:11:53.000
that boards have to go through

02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:56.640
and the other half be on the team-building process.

02:11:56.640 --> 02:11:58.090
Current research,

02:11:58.090 --> 02:12:00.610
understanding how the unity, the advocacy,

02:12:00.610 --> 02:12:04.470
the structuring pieces that boards have to work on as well.

02:12:04.470 --> 02:12:06.960
There's a lot of overlap between the two.

02:12:08.350 --> 02:12:10.750
Because setting goals and monitoring those goals

02:12:10.750 --> 02:12:12.940
and how you structure your board meetings to do that

02:12:12.940 --> 02:12:15.740
and how you advocate and communicate in the community

02:12:15.740 --> 02:12:18.820
and how you come together with unity amongst board members

02:12:18.820 --> 02:12:22.940
all contribute to both sides of that training.

02:12:26.980 --> 02:12:28.670
<v ->Yeah, and again I'm just,</v>

02:12:30.100 --> 02:12:31.680
my question is is that

02:12:32.688 --> 02:12:33.521
by the way,

02:12:34.500 --> 02:12:36.050
Dr. Gore I'm a

02:12:36.050 --> 02:12:37.260
past TASB member,

02:12:37.260 --> 02:12:39.060
a past school board trustee myself.

02:12:39.060 --> 02:12:40.830
And so I'm just kinda curious,

02:12:40.830 --> 02:12:43.150
kinda where then

02:12:43.150 --> 02:12:44.540
as you listen to that,

02:12:44.540 --> 02:12:45.373
what is the rub?

02:12:48.230 --> 02:12:50.990
<v ->The rub is the loss of local flexibility.</v>

02:12:50.990 --> 02:12:53.620
And the rub is also, frankly,

02:12:53.620 --> 02:12:55.610
the two-year-old process of

02:12:55.610 --> 02:12:58.100
when the agency developed a process for

02:12:58.100 --> 02:12:59.700
becoming an authorized provider.

02:13:00.890 --> 02:13:01.840
There are numerous things

02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:03.420
I'd prefer not to get into today

02:13:03.420 --> 02:13:04.600
that we found

02:13:06.170 --> 02:13:07.270
extremely problematic.

02:13:09.537 --> 02:13:11.950
<v Mr. Maynard>Okay.</v>

02:13:11.950 --> 02:13:13.410
<v ->Okay, I have a question</v>

02:13:13.410 --> 02:13:14.850
and then I'll call on Ms. Bahorich.

02:13:14.850 --> 02:13:17.210
And it has to do with the language of the amendment.

02:13:17.210 --> 02:13:19.130
So, the amendment says,

02:13:19.130 --> 02:13:22.460
shall be provided by an ESC or a registered provider

02:13:22.460 --> 02:13:25.810
but I heard Dr. Howard speak on the fact that

02:13:25.810 --> 02:13:29.980
ESCs are currently providing the training

02:13:29.980 --> 02:13:31.850
as an authorized trainer?

02:13:33.530 --> 02:13:34.363
<v ->Correct.</v>

02:13:34.363 --> 02:13:38.090
All of our service centers have authorized board trainers

02:13:38.090 --> 02:13:40.270
as employees of their service centers

02:13:40.270 --> 02:13:43.530
that deliver the 1566 training.

02:13:43.530 --> 02:13:44.363
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:13:44.363 --> 02:13:45.490
And so they would then qualify

02:13:45.490 --> 02:13:47.670
to provide the team-building training

02:13:47.670 --> 02:13:49.070
even without this amendment?

02:13:50.580 --> 02:13:51.620
<v ->Correct.</v>

02:13:51.620 --> 02:13:52.453
They all are,

02:13:52.453 --> 02:13:54.010
all of the trainers are registered.

02:13:55.450 --> 02:13:57.200
You have to be a registered provider

02:13:57.200 --> 02:13:59.050
to provide any board training for credit.

02:13:59.050 --> 02:14:00.440
<v ->Okay, and I guess to Dr. Ellis then</v>

02:14:00.440 --> 02:14:01.400
as the maker of the motion,

02:14:01.400 --> 02:14:03.360
so that by an ESC,

02:14:04.310 --> 02:14:07.570
is that particularly significant in your motion?

02:14:07.570 --> 02:14:09.720
Or is it just the registered provider part?

02:14:12.200 --> 02:14:14.640
<v ->This would take it back to how it is currently.</v>

02:14:14.640 --> 02:14:15.780
And currently it is,

02:14:15.780 --> 02:14:17.420
this is exactly how it is currently.

02:14:17.420 --> 02:14:19.410
<v ->But there's some overlap between ESCs</v>

02:14:19.410 --> 02:14:21.640
and authorized providers, apparently.

02:14:21.640 --> 02:14:25.680
<v ->There are some ESC providers who are authorized.</v>

02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:26.590
<v ->Authorized, I got you.</v>

02:14:26.590 --> 02:14:29.600
Okay, but this would broaden it to any ESC?

02:14:30.910 --> 02:14:32.410
<v ->As it is now.</v>
<v ->As it is now.</v>

02:14:32.410 --> 02:14:33.930
Okay, great.
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:14:33.930 --> 02:14:35.730
<v ->Ms. Bahorich and then Ms. Cargill.</v>

02:14:38.100 --> 02:14:41.960
<v ->So, I guess, for me, I would like to</v>

02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:44.310
I believe in the concept.

02:14:44.310 --> 02:14:46.740
And I don't see how that it removes flexibility

02:14:46.740 --> 02:14:48.800
for folks, personally,

02:14:48.800 --> 02:14:51.620
to be able to get on our list.

02:14:51.620 --> 02:14:53.450
Now this is our list we're developing here.

02:14:53.450 --> 02:14:56.030
This is the registered folks

02:14:56.030 --> 02:14:57.810
that we wanna change to authorized folks,

02:14:57.810 --> 02:14:59.040
that it's our list

02:14:59.040 --> 02:15:01.980
that we're saying to all of the school districts in Texas,

02:15:01.980 --> 02:15:03.700
these people are qualified,

02:15:04.810 --> 02:15:08.630
and these people should be chosen among

02:15:09.490 --> 02:15:11.370
in order to provide your training

02:15:11.370 --> 02:15:12.930
for your school board trustees.

02:15:12.930 --> 02:15:16.290
And so, I have been uncomfortable

02:15:16.290 --> 02:15:17.690
since I've been on the board

02:15:18.740 --> 02:15:20.120
when I first came on and realized

02:15:20.120 --> 02:15:22.670
that we literally had no standards

02:15:22.670 --> 02:15:25.730
for a person getting on the list to say,

02:15:25.730 --> 02:15:27.630
on our list that says,

02:15:27.630 --> 02:15:30.570
these people can give you quality training.

02:15:30.570 --> 02:15:32.140
I mean, to me that's what our list says

02:15:32.140 --> 02:15:36.390
just like when we put out a textbook list and we say,

02:15:36.390 --> 02:15:37.620
these textbooks,

02:15:38.650 --> 02:15:41.730
we can certify are good textbooks for you to choose among

02:15:41.730 --> 02:15:43.570
because we've authorized these.

02:15:43.570 --> 02:15:45.810
To me, this is the same kind of thing here.

02:15:45.810 --> 02:15:48.120
I'm uncomfortable with having no standards

02:15:48.120 --> 02:15:49.570
other than to say,

02:15:49.570 --> 02:15:50.970
here are my qualifications.

02:15:50.970 --> 02:15:54.632
But there's nothing in that rule

02:15:54.632 --> 02:15:57.150
that disqualifies them.

02:15:57.150 --> 02:15:58.690
It says, give us your qualifications

02:15:58.690 --> 02:16:00.440
but there's nothing that disqualifies them

02:16:00.440 --> 02:16:03.210
if they don't meet some kind of standard of qualification.

02:16:03.210 --> 02:16:05.940
So in essence, we have no qualifications,

02:16:07.410 --> 02:16:09.980
have no standards for a person just getting,

02:16:10.830 --> 02:16:12.960
filling out the form and being on the list.

02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.950
And I personally am much more comfortable

02:16:15.950 --> 02:16:18.160
with having some kind of a bar

02:16:18.160 --> 02:16:20.750
that says to school districts,

02:16:20.750 --> 02:16:22.910
these are folks you can comfortably invite

02:16:22.910 --> 02:16:23.780
to do your training.

02:16:23.780 --> 02:16:25.150
Choose who you want.

02:16:25.150 --> 02:16:28.150
But these are folks that we're comfortable

02:16:28.150 --> 02:16:31.340
providing you from our authorized list.

02:16:31.340 --> 02:16:34.100
My question really is down to timing right now.

02:16:34.100 --> 02:16:37.660
I feel like the chair has made a great suggestion.

02:16:38.900 --> 02:16:40.010
And,

02:16:40.010 --> 02:16:42.430
our chair of the Committee on School Initiatives as well

02:16:42.430 --> 02:16:46.080
are in agreement that we should modify the framework,

02:16:47.270 --> 02:16:48.760
the school board framework.

02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:53.160
So the timing of it is more of a concern to me

02:16:53.160 --> 02:16:54.670
than it is the concept.

02:16:54.670 --> 02:16:56.210
'Cause I agree with the concept.

02:16:56.210 --> 02:16:58.190
I really, I don't like the fact

02:16:58.190 --> 02:17:00.430
that we don't have anything in place right now.

02:17:00.430 --> 02:17:01.660
So it's the timing.

02:17:01.660 --> 02:17:06.660
So, for me, I would like to suggest that we get to

02:17:07.170 --> 02:17:09.430
as soon as authorization as possible

02:17:09.430 --> 02:17:12.030
see how we're doing on the framework.

02:17:12.030 --> 02:17:15.710
I mean, approve or leave it effective...

02:17:19.440 --> 02:17:21.150
The soonest we can bring it back up

02:17:21.150 --> 02:17:23.080
because I'm hoping we're gonna have the framework

02:17:23.080 --> 02:17:25.270
a long enough to see, okay,

02:17:25.270 --> 02:17:26.400
now let's bring this back up

02:17:26.400 --> 02:17:28.320
'cause we've adjusted our framework

02:17:28.320 --> 02:17:31.160
so that when we stand up this training

02:17:31.160 --> 02:17:33.900
the new framework that we're going to approve

02:17:33.900 --> 02:17:36.890
and everything is in timing, the right timing.

02:17:36.890 --> 02:17:38.310
That's the big concern for me.

02:17:38.310 --> 02:17:41.980
<v ->And so just for the purposes of our discussion now</v>

02:17:41.980 --> 02:17:44.340
let's restrict it to the amendment

02:17:45.500 --> 02:17:48.630
unless it's a question directed to the providers.

02:17:48.630 --> 02:17:49.463
Do we have any more--

02:17:49.463 --> 02:17:50.296
Or the testifiers.

02:17:50.296 --> 02:17:52.460
Do we have any more questions of the testifiers?

02:17:53.520 --> 02:17:55.140
May they be excused?

02:17:55.140 --> 02:17:57.690
Okay, thank you all.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

02:17:57.690 --> 02:17:59.170
<v ->Oh you do have.</v>

02:17:59.170 --> 02:18:00.040
Oh, okay.

02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:01.400
So then we go Ms. Cargill.

02:18:01.400 --> 02:18:04.380
And bearing in mind we'll talk about the effective date

02:18:04.380 --> 02:18:05.670
here, in a moment.

02:18:05.670 --> 02:18:08.120
But let's deal with the amendment at this point

02:18:08.120 --> 02:18:08.953
that's on the table.

02:18:08.953 --> 02:18:10.858
<v ->Well it kinda ties</v>

02:18:10.858 --> 02:18:11.691
together a little bit.
<v ->That's okay,</v>

02:18:11.691 --> 02:18:13.602
If you can't separate them, that's all right.

02:18:13.602 --> 02:18:15.120
<v ->So I,</v>

02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:17.800
you took a lot of the words out of my mouth, no surprise

02:18:17.800 --> 02:18:20.430
because my concern is also with the timing.

02:18:20.430 --> 02:18:23.860
But, to limit it to the authorized, when,

02:18:25.060 --> 02:18:29.280
I know when Dr. Gore was asked, what's the rub,

02:18:29.280 --> 02:18:33.160
he seems to keep going back to flexibility.

02:18:33.160 --> 02:18:34.800
And so, and I understand that

02:18:34.800 --> 02:18:37.050
because flexibility is important.

02:18:38.080 --> 02:18:41.100
But, every time that I have asked staff

02:18:41.100 --> 02:18:43.650
including yesterday and then listening again today,

02:18:44.560 --> 02:18:46.750
what is the main objective of

02:18:46.750 --> 02:18:49.850
having an authorized provider versus a registered,

02:18:49.850 --> 02:18:52.880
it's all about setting a higher threshold

02:18:52.880 --> 02:18:54.580
for student outcomes.

02:18:54.580 --> 02:18:56.220
And that's what I wanna see.

02:18:56.220 --> 02:18:59.090
And so I think a lot of us are on the same page.

02:18:59.090 --> 02:19:02.860
We want our providers who are on our list

02:19:02.860 --> 02:19:04.330
as my colleague pointed out,

02:19:05.680 --> 02:19:08.390
at least I do, I want them

02:19:08.390 --> 02:19:10.620
to be in a position as trainers

02:19:10.620 --> 02:19:13.790
to train school board members so that

02:19:13.790 --> 02:19:15.710
school board members can best serve our students.

02:19:15.710 --> 02:19:18.230
So I am definitely in favor of

02:19:18.230 --> 02:19:19.590
having authorized providers.

02:19:19.590 --> 02:19:22.400
But I think we're gonna have to hash out the timing.

02:19:22.400 --> 02:19:24.600
And we might end up in the same place anyway

02:19:25.980 --> 02:19:27.740
as what the amendment is trying to do

02:19:27.740 --> 02:19:30.300
is to keep the status quo for now

02:19:30.300 --> 02:19:31.780
while we work on a framework

02:19:31.780 --> 02:19:35.020
and then we figure out how to grandfather in

02:19:35.020 --> 02:19:36.650
more authorized providers, etc.

02:19:36.650 --> 02:19:38.990
So it kinda all meshes together.

02:19:39.960 --> 02:19:41.210
<v ->Dr.--</v>
<v ->And so that's confusing.</v>

02:19:41.210 --> 02:19:42.990
So somebody needs to figure that out.

02:19:42.990 --> 02:19:44.840
<v ->Okay, Dr. Ellis and then Mr. Allen.</v>

02:19:46.394 --> 02:19:48.130
<v ->And I don't know if Drew can come back up</v>

02:19:48.130 --> 02:19:51.400
I actually do have a quick question on that.

02:19:51.400 --> 02:19:52.400
That brings up a good point

02:19:52.400 --> 02:19:53.870
that Ms. Bahorich brought up,

02:19:53.870 --> 02:19:57.130
is the registered provider list our list

02:19:57.130 --> 02:19:59.410
or is that a list of the agencies

02:19:59.410 --> 02:20:02.040
that they also use for other things?

02:20:02.980 --> 02:20:04.810
<v ->Well there's a lot of lists called</v>

02:20:04.810 --> 02:20:06.510
authorized or registered providers

02:20:06.510 --> 02:20:08.220
but the list for board training

02:20:08.220 --> 02:20:09.820
is just that registered,

02:20:09.820 --> 02:20:10.980
an authorized provider list

02:20:10.980 --> 02:20:13.190
is just specific for board training.

02:20:13.190 --> 02:20:15.110
<v ->So is it technically our list or the agency's</v>

02:20:15.110 --> 02:20:16.620
or is that semantics?

02:20:16.620 --> 02:20:18.280
<v ->We maintain the list</v>

02:20:18.280 --> 02:20:20.480
and go through the process, do the training

02:20:20.480 --> 02:20:21.820
make sure that they are vetted

02:20:21.820 --> 02:20:23.650
to get on the authorized provider list

02:20:23.650 --> 02:20:24.820
but it's--
<v ->It's a list</v>

02:20:24.820 --> 02:20:26.970
for our trainers essentially.
<v ->It's a list from your rule.</v>

02:20:26.970 --> 02:20:28.270
Yes.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:20:28.270 --> 02:20:29.820
And I also wanna, and

02:20:29.820 --> 02:20:31.000
I'll kinda throw this out

02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:32.690
and if you have some thoughts on this also,

02:20:32.690 --> 02:20:35.900
to what I think Ms. Cargill was also saying

02:20:35.900 --> 02:20:38.530
of the timing and really Ms. Bahorich of the timing of this.

02:20:38.530 --> 02:20:42.030
Do you see any concerns of what I am proposing,

02:20:42.030 --> 02:20:44.710
which is to leave as is for now,

02:20:45.700 --> 02:20:48.410
rework the framework, rework the rules,

02:20:48.410 --> 02:20:50.740
come up with new training and then a test

02:20:50.740 --> 02:20:54.220
to make an authorized provider for team-building

02:20:54.220 --> 02:20:57.870
as opposed to if we leave the rule as you're proposing

02:20:58.950 --> 02:21:01.510
which would make it be authorized.

02:21:01.510 --> 02:21:03.830
There would be some ramping up

02:21:03.830 --> 02:21:05.910
to take care of that process.

02:21:05.910 --> 02:21:07.400
And then with our intention to come back

02:21:07.400 --> 02:21:09.010
to what I just described there

02:21:09.010 --> 02:21:10.810
is that more cumbersome to change it

02:21:10.810 --> 02:21:12.280
to how you're proposing it

02:21:12.280 --> 02:21:14.500
and then back around to how I'm proposing it

02:21:14.500 --> 02:21:16.740
as opposed to status quo for now

02:21:16.740 --> 02:21:19.640
and if we very quickly ramp up this process

02:21:19.640 --> 02:21:20.473
that I've described?

02:21:20.473 --> 02:21:21.970
Does that make sense, the question I'm asking?

02:21:21.970 --> 02:21:22.803
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

02:21:24.400 --> 02:21:27.410
First of all, I do agree with you 100%

02:21:27.410 --> 02:21:28.750
that I think the answer is

02:21:28.750 --> 02:21:29.840
looking at the framework

02:21:29.840 --> 02:21:31.740
and aligning all trainings to

02:21:31.740 --> 02:21:33.860
the state board's framework.

02:21:33.860 --> 02:21:37.040
Because I am supportive of

02:21:37.040 --> 02:21:39.910
multiple different governance systems

02:21:39.910 --> 02:21:41.250
that have research behind them

02:21:41.250 --> 02:21:42.880
that say this is effective governance

02:21:42.880 --> 02:21:44.900
as long as they're aligned to the expectations

02:21:44.900 --> 02:21:47.370
that we set for our boards across the State.

02:21:47.370 --> 02:21:48.500
And we raise that bar.

02:21:50.130 --> 02:21:51.470
In order,

02:21:51.470 --> 02:21:53.120
I'm still gonna lean on

02:21:53.120 --> 02:21:54.970
I think it's best as proposed

02:21:54.970 --> 02:21:57.290
'cause that's what we brought to you to propose.

02:21:57.290 --> 02:22:01.470
But if you talk about the work to align to the framework

02:22:01.470 --> 02:22:04.850
and the lift that we're gonna have to make across the State

02:22:04.850 --> 02:22:08.530
to align a higher bar for trainers,

02:22:08.530 --> 02:22:11.890
if we're able to do part of that work now

02:22:11.890 --> 02:22:14.240
and lift more trainers up

02:22:14.240 --> 02:22:16.320
in the authorized provider of team-building

02:22:16.320 --> 02:22:18.510
in certain areas of that framework,

02:22:18.510 --> 02:22:21.100
that can be less of a lift in the future

02:22:21.100 --> 02:22:22.530
when the framework's reworked

02:22:22.530 --> 02:22:24.950
because they've already been exposed to

02:22:24.950 --> 02:22:26.930
the research that's behind good governance,

02:22:26.930 --> 02:22:29.300
the research in working collaboratively.

02:22:29.300 --> 02:22:31.290
And I think, potentially, when you talk about

02:22:31.290 --> 02:22:33.360
having the capacity of coaches,

02:22:34.410 --> 02:22:36.620
a step or two now, reworking the framework.

02:22:36.620 --> 02:22:38.180
And then if the bar goes higher

02:22:38.180 --> 02:22:40.390
or is more across the board just better,

02:22:41.870 --> 02:22:44.340
then we take those final steps in the future

02:22:44.340 --> 02:22:46.150
after that work is done.
<v ->I appreciate it.</v>

02:22:46.150 --> 02:22:47.180
<v Vice Chair>Okay, thank you.</v>

02:22:47.180 --> 02:22:48.013
Mr. Allen.

02:22:49.780 --> 02:22:51.410
<v ->My question is for the chair</v>

02:22:51.410 --> 02:22:53.860
as it pertains to this training.

02:22:53.860 --> 02:22:56.880
Let's say, for example, this amendment fails

02:22:56.880 --> 02:22:58.940
and the actions that you were talking about

02:22:58.940 --> 02:23:00.930
we needed to take in the future,

02:23:00.930 --> 02:23:02.860
would those things fail at this time as well?

02:23:02.860 --> 02:23:05.120
'Cause it's important to me that

02:23:06.410 --> 02:23:08.600
right now I'm leaning on the side of looking

02:23:08.600 --> 02:23:10.270
at what we expected

02:23:10.270 --> 02:23:12.520
and looking at those things through a process

02:23:14.110 --> 02:23:16.620
of improving what boards get for the team-building.

02:23:16.620 --> 02:23:17.580
I'm sitting in Houston,

02:23:17.580 --> 02:23:21.200
I've watched the board over the last year.

02:23:21.200 --> 02:23:23.310
Certainly right after some of the intense training

02:23:23.310 --> 02:23:24.520
that they received.

02:23:24.520 --> 02:23:26.640
And I would say they are definitely

02:23:26.640 --> 02:23:28.080
in the improvement process.

02:23:28.080 --> 02:23:29.940
So I know it's warranted.

02:23:29.940 --> 02:23:31.640
What my fear is is that

02:23:32.794 --> 02:23:35.220
we talked about a handful of boards

02:23:35.220 --> 02:23:37.100
needing this kind of assistance.

02:23:37.100 --> 02:23:40.010
So we theoretically didn't really have a problem

02:23:40.010 --> 02:23:41.470
and we're trying to fix a problem

02:23:41.470 --> 02:23:43.310
when we don't really have a problem.

02:23:43.310 --> 02:23:46.230
And we need to drill down into some specifics

02:23:46.230 --> 02:23:47.290
for some particular boards

02:23:47.290 --> 02:23:48.920
which means some local understanding of

02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:50.560
what their needs are.

02:23:50.560 --> 02:23:52.090
So I don't know what we're trying to fix

02:23:52.090 --> 02:23:54.040
if this rule is not hurting us,

02:23:54.040 --> 02:23:55.150
then we can remain here

02:23:55.150 --> 02:23:57.380
while we do some things internally

02:23:57.380 --> 02:23:59.060
before we to go out to boards

02:23:59.060 --> 02:24:02.170
what we expect for the particular team-building training.

02:24:02.170 --> 02:24:04.300
'Cause what I heard through all the discussion

02:24:04.300 --> 02:24:06.440
is that there was really no real focus on

02:24:06.440 --> 02:24:07.660
the team-building piece.

02:24:07.660 --> 02:24:08.740
And I'm concerned about that.

02:24:08.740 --> 02:24:10.760
So I need you to talk to me about

02:24:10.760 --> 02:24:12.280
if this fails, what happens?

02:24:13.540 --> 02:24:14.830
<v ->Dr. Ellis.</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

02:24:14.830 --> 02:24:16.770
And so, I think,

02:24:18.180 --> 02:24:20.820
if this fails, to direct to your question,

02:24:20.820 --> 02:24:22.550
and then we move to,

02:24:22.550 --> 02:24:24.990
the rule as proposed by the staff,

02:24:24.990 --> 02:24:27.490
that would bump this up to a authorized provider

02:24:27.490 --> 02:24:30.230
that would go into place when we make it effective.

02:24:30.230 --> 02:24:33.210
And I would still do that process

02:24:33.210 --> 02:24:35.140
that I was describing earlier,

02:24:35.140 --> 02:24:39.090
working with this board to engage stakeholders,

02:24:39.090 --> 02:24:42.510
to relook at our framework for school board development,

02:24:42.510 --> 02:24:45.600
rework at our, look at our rule in the future

02:24:45.600 --> 02:24:47.860
to see what our expectations are of team-building

02:24:47.860 --> 02:24:49.430
'cause I think that's loud and clear now.

02:24:49.430 --> 02:24:52.760
And then ramp up a process for becoming

02:24:52.760 --> 02:24:54.890
an authorized team-builder trainer,

02:24:54.890 --> 02:24:57.720
raise that bar for that within the pillar of,

02:24:57.720 --> 02:25:00.040
within the section of team-building, not that.

02:25:00.040 --> 02:25:01.850
I think your question is, if this fails

02:25:01.850 --> 02:25:03.980
do I still have the intention to do all of that?

02:25:03.980 --> 02:25:05.100
The answer is yes.

02:25:05.100 --> 02:25:06.967
<v Mr. Allen>And if it passes, what's your intention?</v>

02:25:06.967 --> 02:25:10.660
<v ->The same.</v>

02:25:10.660 --> 02:25:12.350
<v ->Okay, further discussion?</v>

02:25:15.130 --> 02:25:17.940
We're ready to vote on the amendment.

02:25:17.940 --> 02:25:20.160
This does not require a two-thirds vote, right?

02:25:20.160 --> 02:25:22.370
This is just an amendment to the main motion.

02:25:22.370 --> 02:25:25.360
And so, we'll restate that, okay.

02:25:25.360 --> 02:25:27.260
The amendment is--
<v ->Oh.</v>

02:25:27.260 --> 02:25:28.580
<v ->Oh, excuse me.</v>

02:25:28.580 --> 02:25:29.730
Oh, Ms.

02:25:29.730 --> 02:25:32.820
<v ->I still am confused about the timing of this</v>

02:25:32.820 --> 02:25:34.630
because I know that would be the second thing.

02:25:34.630 --> 02:25:35.580
<v ->That's the next part.</v>

02:25:35.580 --> 02:25:37.040
Let's get this voted on,
<v ->But I don't see</v>

02:25:37.040 --> 02:25:38.800
how we vote on this,
<v ->can decide.</v>

02:25:38.800 --> 02:25:40.970
Unless we understand what the timing would be.

02:25:40.970 --> 02:25:42.470
Just because,

02:25:42.470 --> 02:25:44.610
if you're gonna do a short timing

02:25:44.610 --> 02:25:46.290
and you want it 20 days effective,

02:25:46.290 --> 02:25:49.120
that's a very different perspective

02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:49.970
than if you,

02:25:51.520 --> 02:25:54.760
if we decided that we wanted to make this effective later.

02:25:54.760 --> 02:25:55.593
I mean,

02:25:55.593 --> 02:25:56.720
I'm really stuck on timing.
<v ->Well I guess</v>

02:25:56.720 --> 02:25:58.130
we can ask Ms. Crews,

02:25:58.130 --> 02:26:00.770
<v ->I'm not sure what to do--</v>
<v ->If the motion as</v>

02:26:00.770 --> 02:26:01.930
the timing of this,

02:26:03.600 --> 02:26:06.280
would be in order with this amendment

02:26:06.280 --> 02:26:07.820
on the floor or not.

02:26:13.080 --> 02:26:15.220
<v ->The rule about secondary amendments</v>

02:26:15.220 --> 02:26:18.390
is that they must touch the primary amendment

02:26:18.390 --> 02:26:19.520
and must be germane.

02:26:20.430 --> 02:26:23.390
I would advise you therefore Mr. Chairman

02:26:23.390 --> 02:26:24.860
that this neither touches--
<v ->Vice Chairman.</v>

02:26:24.860 --> 02:26:27.410
<v ->Mr. Vice Chairman, you're acting Chairman,</v>

02:26:27.410 --> 02:26:32.200
that this is neither touching nor germane.

02:26:32.200 --> 02:26:34.430
However, it would be appropriate

02:26:34.430 --> 02:26:36.440
for a debater to say

02:26:36.440 --> 02:26:39.460
"Were this motion to be adopted or defeated,

02:26:39.460 --> 02:26:42.660
"I would then propose another amendment to do X."

02:26:42.660 --> 02:26:43.850
<v ->Great, that's what I'm hearing.</v>

02:26:43.850 --> 02:26:47.310
So, that's the ruling of the acting chair as well.

02:26:47.310 --> 02:26:49.950
I don't think it's germane or touching this.

02:26:49.950 --> 02:26:51.420
So we're gonna vote on this.

02:26:51.420 --> 02:26:53.720
We're gonna vote on the amendment as proposed.

02:26:54.610 --> 02:26:56.370
And it is that,

02:26:56.370 --> 02:27:01.370
the motion is that the proposed new section 61.1b four F

02:27:02.580 --> 02:27:03.820
to read as be,

02:27:05.020 --> 02:27:05.900
to read as follows:

02:27:05.900 --> 02:27:09.150
the team-building session shall be provided by an ESC

02:27:09.150 --> 02:27:13.210
or a registered provider as described in subsection C

02:27:13.210 --> 02:27:14.220
of this section.

02:27:15.930 --> 02:27:20.570
So, all in favor signify by raising your right hand please.

02:27:21.843 --> 02:27:25.440
One, two, three, four, five, six,

02:27:25.440 --> 02:27:26.920
seven, eight.

02:27:26.920 --> 02:27:28.640
One, two, keep them up, one, two, three, four,

02:27:29.958 --> 02:27:33.110
five, six, seven, eight, is what I have.

02:27:33.110 --> 02:27:34.050
All opposed.

02:27:37.070 --> 02:27:38.390
One, two.

02:27:38.390 --> 02:27:40.690
And so are you other members planning on

02:27:40.690 --> 02:27:42.240
intending to abstain?

02:27:42.240 --> 02:27:43.226
Ms. Perez.

02:27:43.226 --> 02:27:45.383
(member speaking indistinctly)

02:27:45.383 --> 02:27:48.896
<v ->It's very difficult to go on this part</v>

02:27:48.896 --> 02:27:50.640
without knowing the effects.

02:27:50.640 --> 02:27:52.110
<v ->Well I'm told that parliamentary matters</v>

02:27:52.110 --> 02:27:52.943
we can't do that.

02:27:52.943 --> 02:27:53.840
So are y'all--

02:27:53.840 --> 02:27:57.350
Okay, so two opposed and the rest are abstaining.

02:27:58.410 --> 02:28:00.810
Okay, so the motion passes.

02:28:00.810 --> 02:28:05.040
And so we're now looking at

02:28:05.040 --> 02:28:06.230
the proposed,

02:28:07.150 --> 02:28:10.690
the recommendation of the Committee on School Initiatives,

02:28:10.690 --> 02:28:13.490
which is that the State Board of Education

02:28:13.490 --> 02:28:15.790
approve for second reading and final adoption

02:28:15.790 --> 02:28:19.720
proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 61, School Districts,

02:28:19.720 --> 02:28:22.590
Subchapter A, Board of Trustees Relationship.

02:28:22.590 --> 02:28:26.260
As substituted, attachment A and

02:28:26.260 --> 02:28:28.170
at this point the recommendation is

02:28:28.170 --> 02:28:29.350
we make an affirmative fi--

02:28:29.350 --> 02:28:31.240
Or as amended I should say,

02:28:31.240 --> 02:28:32.160
right?
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

02:28:32.160 --> 02:28:33.400
<v ->As amended.</v>

02:28:33.400 --> 02:28:35.670
And that we make an affirmative finding

02:28:35.670 --> 02:28:39.520
that immediate adoption of the proposed amendments to that

02:28:39.520 --> 02:28:41.920
19 TAC Chapter 61, School Districts,

02:28:41.920 --> 02:28:44.270
Subchapter A, Board of Trustees Relationship

02:28:44.270 --> 02:28:47.280
is necessary and shall have an effective date of 20 days

02:28:47.280 --> 02:28:50.170
after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.

02:28:50.170 --> 02:28:53.730
So is there any discussion now on the motion as amended?

02:28:54.740 --> 02:28:55.730
Yes, Mr. Cortez.

02:28:56.990 --> 02:28:59.190
<v ->I'd still like to discuss the issue about,</v>

02:29:00.220 --> 02:29:02.570
we're gonna back to this, I think,

02:29:02.570 --> 02:29:06.030
and now knowing that the chair wants to reopen this

02:29:06.030 --> 02:29:08.000
and redo this framework, I think,

02:29:09.170 --> 02:29:12.080
having heard one of the testifiers talk about

02:29:12.920 --> 02:29:14.760
eight to 10% of our local school boards

02:29:14.760 --> 02:29:16.080
take some of this training online,

02:29:16.080 --> 02:29:19.270
I think we should continue to allow for that to happen

02:29:19.270 --> 02:29:21.740
until we've corrected what we need to do.

02:29:21.740 --> 02:29:23.390
Okay, 10% of our school districts,

02:29:23.390 --> 02:29:26.130
you're talking about 120 school districts

02:29:26.130 --> 02:29:27.030
in the State of Texas.

02:29:27.030 --> 02:29:29.130
And it's a lot of trustees.

02:29:29.130 --> 02:29:31.060
And if we make it impossible for them

02:29:31.060 --> 02:29:32.830
to do this online training

02:29:32.830 --> 02:29:34.650
I don't think we do them a good service.

02:29:34.650 --> 02:29:36.890
<v ->Okay, so my understanding is that</v>

02:29:36.890 --> 02:29:40.880
that member Cortez can make that as an amendment

02:29:40.880 --> 02:29:44.050
to the proposed rule.

02:29:44.050 --> 02:29:46.430
But we would need that in the form of an amendment.

02:29:46.430 --> 02:29:48.000
Is that right Ms. Crews?
<v ->Yes sir.</v>

02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:49.780
<v ->Okay, so we'd need that in the form of an amendment</v>

02:29:49.780 --> 02:29:51.350
and it's going to need to be,

02:29:52.810 --> 02:29:54.890
you may need to get staff's assistance

02:29:54.890 --> 02:29:55.723
to--
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:29:55.723 --> 02:29:57.540
<v ->To cite the specific provision</v>

02:29:57.540 --> 02:29:58.940
because I don't know that we have all of it here

02:29:58.940 --> 02:30:00.420
in front of us.
<v ->I don't have in front of me</v>

02:30:00.420 --> 02:30:02.540
and since I was out yesterday I would (audio clipping)

02:30:02.540 --> 02:30:05.210
<v ->Okay, so why don't you take a moment and get with staff</v>

02:30:05.210 --> 02:30:06.510
because we're gonna need the language

02:30:06.510 --> 02:30:09.520
of that particular provision.

02:30:09.520 --> 02:30:11.170
Maybe Ms. Cargill can assist you.

02:30:12.200 --> 02:30:13.310
In the meantime,

02:30:14.300 --> 02:30:16.880
Mr. Allen, did you have a question or something to add?

02:30:16.880 --> 02:30:18.540
Okay, in the meantime, so now I think

02:30:18.540 --> 02:30:20.410
we can talk about the date

02:30:21.490 --> 02:30:23.390
and the provision that says,

02:30:23.390 --> 02:30:25.340
whether we make an affirmative finding,

02:30:26.230 --> 02:30:29.690
it's necessary and have an effective date of 20 days.

02:30:29.690 --> 02:30:32.980
Or is there another date that we need to be looking at?

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Dr. Robinson.

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<v ->What about just making it,</v>

02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:39.980
fixing this problem of it being a real tight timeframe

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is make it January 1st of 21.

02:30:42.670 --> 02:30:44.570
<v ->Is that in the form of a motion?</v>

02:30:44.570 --> 02:30:46.430
<v ->I so move, yeah.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

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Is there a second?
<v ->No.</v>

02:30:49.650 --> 02:30:51.070
<v ->Well I'm gonna give it a minute.</v>

02:30:51.070 --> 02:30:52.280
Just 'cause you don't second

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means there's not one.
<v ->I went and raised</v>

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my hand first.

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<v ->Is there a second to an effective date of</v>

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January 1st, 2021?

02:31:00.945 --> 02:31:03.130
No, okay, hearing--

02:31:03.130 --> 02:31:05.629
<v Member>We got second for the purpose of discussion.</v>

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<v ->Okay, so it is seconded then.</v>

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So the motion currently before us

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is that it have an effective date of January 1st, 2021.

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Discussion on that motion.

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<v Member>I would like to discuss, please.</v>

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And I think we're gonna need staff

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but staff is predisposed.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:31:22.940 --> 02:31:25.460
<v ->Well, and so should we be.</v>

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And that's part of my discussion item.

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So because many of us are not part of

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your School Initiatives Committee

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and we didn't hear any of this.

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And part of my, I'm speaking for myself only,

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part of abstaining is because

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we're not understanding how does this impact

02:31:46.490 --> 02:31:50.800
the compliance of trustees and school boards as a whole

02:31:50.800 --> 02:31:52.650
because we weren't part of that discussion

02:31:52.650 --> 02:31:55.800
where we're not comfortable voting on

02:31:55.800 --> 02:31:57.660
what a great deal of this means

02:31:57.660 --> 02:31:59.060
and then therefore going home

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and explaining to our trustees

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what we just did to them.

02:32:02.150 --> 02:32:07.150
And so, I would also like to know is it possible that

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maybe we move on to something,

02:32:09.310 --> 02:32:11.230
give us an opportunity to understand it.

02:32:11.230 --> 02:32:13.500
I'm not saying till next meeting,

02:32:13.500 --> 02:32:16.180
I'm just saying the same way that staff is over here

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trying to explain it to themselves,

02:32:17.900 --> 02:32:19.530
I'd like some explanation to us too

02:32:19.530 --> 02:32:21.440
before we vote on this.

02:32:21.440 --> 02:32:24.830
<v ->Okay, so I'm not sure what you're asking for.</v>

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You can,

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we can table this until a later point on the agenda.

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<v ->Today.</v>
<v ->Correct, today.</v>

02:32:33.010 --> 02:32:34.660
<v ->Today.</v>
<v ->That's exactly right.</v>

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And if that's in order,

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if that's what you're moving Ms. Perez?

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<v ->That is my request.</v>
<v ->Okay, so Ms. Perez has moved</v>

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that we table this agenda item,

02:32:46.410 --> 02:32:48.150
<v ->Second.</v>
<v ->Postpone is that what it is?</v>

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<v ->Postpone this until a later point in today's meeting.</v>

02:32:52.170 --> 02:32:53.570
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->A short break.</v>

02:32:53.570 --> 02:32:55.010
<v ->We just need--</v>
<v ->Right now.</v>

02:32:55.010 --> 02:32:57.230
<v ->But can I say one thing?</v>
<v ->Well, that okay</v>

02:32:57.230 --> 02:32:58.230
hang on one time.

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I haven't done this before

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but I think I know.
<v ->You're good.</v>

02:33:01.790 --> 02:33:04.430
<v ->We either table it or we postpone it</v>

02:33:04.430 --> 02:33:06.160
until we take up other agenda items,

02:33:06.160 --> 02:33:07.350
which is probably the best idea

02:33:07.350 --> 02:33:10.010
'cause we have other things to handle today.

02:33:10.010 --> 02:33:11.990
And then at some point we can take a break

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and come back.

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But for now, there's been a motion and a second

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to table or to postpone, excuse me,

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this agenda item.

02:33:19.191 --> 02:33:21.050
Is that motion debatable?

02:33:21.050 --> 02:33:23.050
<v ->Yes sir.</v>
<v ->Okay, it is debatable.</v>

02:33:23.050 --> 02:33:25.170
Any discussion on tabling this item

02:33:25.170 --> 02:33:26.950
until a later point in today's meeting.

02:33:26.950 --> 02:33:29.540
<v ->A point of information.</v>
<v ->Yes ma'am.</v>

02:33:29.540 --> 02:33:30.930
<v ->So this is just a point of information</v>

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and by mentioning, we just passed the team-building session

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shall be provided by an ESC or a registered provider

02:33:37.510 --> 02:33:39.800
which is we're not changing what we're doing right now.

02:33:39.800 --> 02:33:42.190
We're just saying, you can sign up yourself

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and do whatever.

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And we're also,

02:33:44.990 --> 02:33:48.460
the proposal is to make that effective

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January 1st, 2021.

02:33:50.090 --> 02:33:52.650
Is that, (audio clips)
<v ->No, it'd be the entire</v>

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the entire rule change,

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as we're look at effective date of the entire rule change,

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not just that amendment.

02:33:58.360 --> 02:34:00.210
<v ->Well, but I'm saying,</v>

02:34:00.210 --> 02:34:01.960
that means you could not revisit

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the registered provider thing

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until after implementation of January 1st, 2021.

02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:09.070
Is that really what the board wants to do?

02:34:09.070 --> 02:34:10.960
That's what I want to check out here.

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<v ->Okay, but right now we're taking up the tabling of,</v>

02:34:14.910 --> 02:34:17.270
or the postponing of this agenda item.

02:34:17.270 --> 02:34:18.380
That goes to the merits.

02:34:18.380 --> 02:34:20.130
<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Save that thought.</v>

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So any further discussion on

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why or why not we should move this

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to a later point in the meeting?

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We ready to vote?

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All in favor of postponing this agenda item

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to a later point in the meeting,

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signify by saying, "Aye."

02:34:35.340 --> 02:34:37.825
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->All opposed?</v>

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(gavel banging)

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Motion carries.

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And I don't have to preside anymore, right?

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Because I'm just presiding.

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All right.

02:34:46.151 --> 02:34:47.700
All right, so we're going on to the next agenda item

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which is probably the Committee on School Initiatives.

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<v Member>Yes.</v>

02:34:54.530 --> 02:34:55.950
<v ->Has,</v>

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Ms. Cargill.

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Ms. Cargill, other Committee on School Initiatives

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recommendations, you wanna continue your report?

02:35:02.060 --> 02:35:03.290
<v ->Okay, yes.</v>
<v ->Please.</v>

02:35:12.070 --> 02:35:14.690
We haven't had this much fun on a Friday in a long time.

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Okay, Ms. Cargill you'll continue please

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the Committee on School Initiatives report.

02:35:19.340 --> 02:35:22.050
<v ->Okay, so members in your packet of motions</v>

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I'm on page four.

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The Committee on School Initiatives recommends

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recommends that the State Board of Education take no action

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on the proposed amendments to

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19 TAC Chapter 249, Disciplinary Proceedings,

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Sanctions, and Contested Cases,

02:35:37.830 --> 02:35:41.690
Subchapter B, Enforcement Actions and Guidelines.

02:35:41.690 --> 02:35:46.020
This item was simply to insert recent legislation.

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So it was to meet statutory obligations.

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<v ->Okay, so everyone who meets with the motion</v>

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it appears on page four of the

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Committee on School Initiatives.

02:35:54.340 --> 02:35:55.310
Any discussion?

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We can just vote, I don't have to restate it,

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do I?
<v ->Correct.</v>

02:35:59.910 --> 02:36:02.460
<v ->Okay, all in favor of the motion,</v>

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signify by saying, "Aye."

02:36:04.037 --> 02:36:05.300
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Opposed, "No."</v>

02:36:06.350 --> 02:36:07.200
<v ->Motion carries.</v>

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I guess the next item on the agenda

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is the Committee of the Full Board.

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And that's supposed to be me.

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So let's take a break.

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How about that.

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Let's take a 15-minute break.

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We'll be back at noon.

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<v ->We are still postponed on item number 18.</v>

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So go to item number 19 on CSI

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or go back to the full board?

02:36:37.142 --> 02:36:40.693
(members speaking indistinctly)

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Okay so now we're gonna to the Committee of the Full Board

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which should be item number three,

02:36:46.670 --> 02:36:48.230
which is a one-time procedural action

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to correct amendments to 19 TAC.

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So I am gonna call on Mr. Rowley.

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<v ->Okay, so we're on the minutes</v>

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of the Committee of the Full Board.

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January 28th set of minutes.

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The first item appears on page two.

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It's official agenda item number three,

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board agenda page I-5.

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And it is recommended by the Full Board

02:37:17.370 --> 02:37:19.960
that the State Board of Education amend,

02:37:22.573 --> 02:37:23.770
no, let's see, is that right?

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The previously adopted motion for the

02:37:25.310 --> 02:37:27.220
November 15th, 2019 minutes.

02:37:27.220 --> 02:37:29.398
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->I guess that is right, okay.</v>

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It didn't sound right.

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To amend the previously adopted motion from the

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November 15, 2019 minutes of the State Board of Education

02:37:37.700 --> 02:37:39.800
to reinstate the sentence:

02:37:39.800 --> 02:37:42.630
"Samples of submitted prekindergarten materials

02:37:42.630 --> 02:37:44.630
"must match the format of the products

02:37:44.630 --> 02:37:47.820
"to be provided to schools upon ordering,"

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in 19 TAC Chapter 66, State Adoption

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and Distribution of Instructional Materials,

02:37:53.780 --> 02:37:57.230
Subchapter B, State Adoption of Instructional Materials

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Section 66.28D2 and to remove the sentence,

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"Samples of adopted prekindergarten materials

02:38:05.010 --> 02:38:06.990
"must match the format of the products

02:38:06.990 --> 02:38:08.880
"to be provided to schools upon ordering"

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from section 66.28 D seven.

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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For the motion is there any other discussion on this item?

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Okay, those in favor please say, "Aye."

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<v Members>Aye.</v>

02:38:23.560 --> 02:38:25.210
<v ->Those opposed please say, "No."</v>

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So there is a majority in favor

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and the recommendation is adopted.

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<v ->Okay, the next item is number five in the minutes</v>

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but it's official agenda item number four,

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it's on your board agenda book, page I-9.

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It's recommended that the State Board of Education

02:38:40.260 --> 02:38:42.860
approve for first reading and filing authorization

02:38:42.860 --> 02:38:46.370
proposed amendments to 19 TAC, Chapter 74,

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Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter B,

02:38:48.510 --> 02:38:50.260
Graduation Requirements,

02:38:50.260 --> 02:38:54.880
Section 74.11, High School Graduation Requirements,

02:38:54.880 --> 02:38:56.670
Section 74,

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or Section 74.12, Foundation High School Programs,

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and Section 74.13, Endorsements.

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<v ->Okay, for the motion is there any further discussion?</v>

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Those in favor please say, "Aye."

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<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Those opposed, "No."</v>

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Okay, there is a majority in favor

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and the recommendation is adopted.

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We are going to skip--
<v ->Skip that one.</v>

02:39:20.690 --> 02:39:23.000
<v ->We're going to postpone item five</v>

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and move on to item number six.

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<v ->Okay, actually it's item six</v>

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in the minutes.
<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

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Right, we're gonna postpone item five,

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is there any objection?

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Hearing none.

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<v ->Okay, and that was actually item six in your minutes.</v>

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So go all the way to

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page nine in your ag--

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your Committee of the Full Board minutes,

02:39:50.100 --> 02:39:53.120
it's item seven but it's agenda item number six.

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Everybody with me, page nine?

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It's recommended that the State Board of Education

02:39:59.610 --> 02:40:02.400
approve for first reading and filing authorization

02:40:02.400 --> 02:40:06.400
proposed revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 126,

02:40:06.400 --> 02:40:08.810
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:40:08.810 --> 02:40:10.950
for Technology Applications,

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Subchapter C, High School, and Subchapter D,

02:40:14.180 --> 02:40:16.970
Other Technology Applications Courses,

02:40:16.970 --> 02:40:20.240
and Chapter 130, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

02:40:20.240 --> 02:40:22.440
for Career and Technical Education,

02:40:22.440 --> 02:40:26.560
Subchapter A, Agriculture, Food, and Natural Resources,

02:40:26.560 --> 02:40:29.930
Subchapter C, Arts, Audio/Video Technology,

02:40:29.930 --> 02:40:31.470
and Communications,

02:40:31.470 --> 02:40:34.800
Subchapter K, Information Technology,

02:40:34.800 --> 02:40:37.340
Subchapter O, Science, Technology,

02:40:37.340 --> 02:40:39.030
Engineering, and Mathematics,

02:40:39.030 --> 02:40:41.880
and Subchapter Q, Energy.

02:40:43.652 --> 02:40:44.770
<v ->All right members, you've heard the motion</v>

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is there any further discussion?

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Hearing none, those in favor please say, "Aye."

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<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Those opposed say, "No."</v>

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There is a majority in favor

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and the recommendation is adopted.

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<v ->Okay, now we're going to the minutes</v>

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from January 29th, 2020.

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That's the other minutes there.

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Committee of the Full Board.

02:41:11.380 --> 02:41:13.640
This is item number one in your minutes.

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It's official agenda item number seven.

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It's on board agenda page I-138.

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It's the little two-page set of minutes

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from January 29, 2020.

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Recommended that the State Board of Education

02:41:27.890 --> 02:41:31.680
approve proposed amendments to Proclamation 2021

02:41:31.680 --> 02:41:34.510
of the State Board of Education Advertising for Bids

02:41:34.510 --> 02:41:35.910
on Instructional Materials.

02:41:38.300 --> 02:41:40.040
<v ->Members, you've heard the motion.</v>

02:41:40.040 --> 02:41:41.640
Is there any further discussion?

02:41:43.110 --> 02:41:45.390
Those in favor please say, "Aye."

02:41:45.390 --> 02:41:47.320
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Those opposed say, "No."</v>

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Then there is a majority in favor

02:41:49.820 --> 02:41:51.480
and the recommendation is adopted.

02:41:51.480 --> 02:41:56.190
<v ->Okay, so on page two, this is item two in the minutes.</v>

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It's official agenda item number eight.

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Board agenda page I-139,

02:42:01.240 --> 02:42:05.050
it's an update on a Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills,

02:42:05.050 --> 02:42:06.000
TEKS Review.

02:42:07.360 --> 02:42:09.810
The first recommendation is

02:42:09.810 --> 02:42:11.340
that the State Board of Education

02:42:11.340 --> 02:42:14.350
direct the science TEKS review work groups

02:42:14.350 --> 02:42:16.820
to strongly consider maintaining the language

02:42:16.820 --> 02:42:18.040
and biology

02:42:18.040 --> 02:42:22.710
student expectation seven B, four A and six A

02:42:22.710 --> 02:42:27.070
as well as three A.

02:42:28.170 --> 02:42:30.200
<v ->Members, you've heard the motion.</v>

02:42:30.200 --> 02:42:31.400
Is there any discussion?

02:42:32.760 --> 02:42:34.760
Hearing none, all those in favor say, "Aye."

02:42:34.760 --> 02:42:36.460
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Those opposed say, "No."</v>

02:42:37.820 --> 02:42:38.760
There is a majority in favor

02:42:38.760 --> 02:42:40.545
and the recommendation is adopted.

02:42:40.545 --> 02:42:45.380
<v ->Okay, the next recommendation under that same item is</v>

02:42:45.380 --> 02:42:47.510
that the State Board of Education direct

02:42:47.510 --> 02:42:50.170
the science TEKS review work groups

02:42:50.170 --> 02:42:55.120
to standardize the language of student expectations three A

02:42:55.120 --> 02:42:58.400
in biology, chemistry, IPC and physics

02:42:58.400 --> 02:43:00.800
and all other high school science courses.

02:43:02.490 --> 02:43:04.050
<v ->Members, you have heard the motion,</v>

02:43:04.050 --> 02:43:05.650
is there any further discussion?

02:43:07.640 --> 02:43:08.473
Ms. Perez.

02:43:08.473 --> 02:43:09.980
<v ->We're on page three, right?</v>

02:43:09.980 --> 02:43:12.180
<v ->No, we're on page two, bottom of page two.</v>

02:43:20.687 --> 02:43:25.590
<v ->Yes, okay.</v>
<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>

02:43:25.590 --> 02:43:28.850
<v ->After conferring with the staff organization</v>

02:43:28.850 --> 02:43:30.000
and several science

02:43:32.700 --> 02:43:35.950
several of our content advisors

02:43:35.950 --> 02:43:38.560
I would like to strike the

02:43:39.680 --> 02:43:43.400
NGSS and send it back to our advisors as such.

02:43:43.400 --> 02:43:45.250
<v ->K-12 Framework.</v>
<v ->Um, that's not--</v>

02:43:45.250 --> 02:43:46.490
<v ->And just keep the K-12 framework.</v>

02:43:46.490 --> 02:43:48.460
<v ->That's not this one.</v>
<v ->It's the next one.</v>

02:43:48.460 --> 02:43:51.530
<v ->That's the wrong motion.</v>

02:43:51.530 --> 02:43:55.550
This is on three A in biology, chemistry, IPC

02:43:55.550 --> 02:43:57.202
and physics and all other high school science courses.

02:43:57.202 --> 02:43:59.430
<v ->Oh, sorry.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:43:59.430 --> 02:44:01.020
<v Ms. Perez>We're ahead of you, go ahead.</v>

02:44:01.020 --> 02:44:02.430
<v ->We'll get there, here in just a minute.</v>

02:44:02.430 --> 02:44:04.000
<v ->We're trying to catch up to y'all.</v>

02:44:05.365 --> 02:44:06.860
All right, is there any other further discussion

02:44:06.860 --> 02:44:07.730
on this item?

02:44:08.790 --> 02:44:11.060
Hearing none, those in favor please say, "Aye."

02:44:11.060 --> 02:44:13.430
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Those opposed, "No."</v>

02:44:13.430 --> 02:44:15.150
<v ->Okay, the next motion.</v>
<v ->Hold on.</v>

02:44:15.150 --> 02:44:16.830
<v ->Under that same--</v>
<v ->Hold on just a sec.</v>

02:44:16.830 --> 02:44:18.020
There's a majority in favor

02:44:18.020 --> 02:44:19.890
and the recommendation is adopted.

02:44:19.890 --> 02:44:21.210
<v ->Next item under that same,</v>

02:44:21.210 --> 02:44:24.930
or next motion under that same item is that

02:44:24.930 --> 02:44:27.040
it's recommended that the State Board of Education

02:44:27.040 --> 02:44:29.850
direct the science TEKS review work groups

02:44:29.850 --> 02:44:33.140
to consider how the K-12 framework

02:44:33.140 --> 02:44:35.220
and the Next Generation Science Standards

02:44:35.220 --> 02:44:37.210
might be incorporated,

02:44:37.210 --> 02:44:39.970
integrated to use as a resource.

02:44:39.970 --> 02:44:43.770
Actually, sorry, I read the wrong one.

02:44:43.770 --> 02:44:45.130
Yeah, I'm sorry, page three,

02:44:45.130 --> 02:44:46.880
it's where it says, "Vote," right there.

02:44:46.880 --> 02:44:48.350
Sorry, that was the original motion.

02:44:48.350 --> 02:44:49.540
It was amended.

02:44:49.540 --> 02:44:50.674
My bad.

02:44:50.674 --> 02:44:52.270
Okay, everybody with me on vote

02:44:52.270 --> 02:44:53.710
under that same item?

02:44:53.710 --> 02:44:55.420
Recommend that the State Board of Education

02:44:55.420 --> 02:44:57.480
direct the science TEKS review work groups

02:44:57.480 --> 02:45:00.440
to consider how the K-12 framework

02:45:00.440 --> 02:45:02.580
and the Next Generation Science Standards

02:45:02.580 --> 02:45:05.640
will be used as a resource to inform

02:45:05.640 --> 02:45:09.040
recommendations for revision of the science TEKS.

02:45:09.920 --> 02:45:11.020
That's the one, sorry.

02:45:12.700 --> 02:45:14.370
<v Member>I'm sorry (audio drowned out by fan)</v>

02:45:14.370 --> 02:45:17.500
<v ->So we have a motion, is there any discussion?</v>

02:45:17.500 --> 02:45:18.680
Ms. Hardy.

02:45:18.680 --> 02:45:20.890
<v ->Just a clarification.</v>

02:45:20.890 --> 02:45:22.340
That's leaving off the,

02:45:23.230 --> 02:45:24.840
that's just this framework?

02:45:25.980 --> 02:45:26.813
<v ->No.</v>

02:45:26.813 --> 02:45:29.620
As written it's the K-12 framework

02:45:29.620 --> 02:45:31.669
and the Next Generation Science Standards.

02:45:31.669 --> 02:45:33.669
<v ->So I have a motion.</v>
<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

02:45:33.669 --> 02:45:35.497
<v ->Yeah, yes I'm--</v>
<v ->Do it.</v>

02:45:35.497 --> 02:45:37.638
<v ->Sorry.</v>
<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>

02:45:37.638 --> 02:45:40.040
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

02:45:40.040 --> 02:45:40.873
You want me to--

02:45:40.873 --> 02:45:42.530
Go ahead and call on me.

02:45:42.530 --> 02:45:45.070
Thank you sir.
<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>

02:45:46.700 --> 02:45:48.000
<v ->What I would like please</v>

02:45:49.010 --> 02:45:53.566
is to strike, "and the Next Generation Science Standards".

02:45:53.566 --> 02:45:55.360
<v ->Second.</v>
<v ->We have a motion to second.</v>

02:45:55.360 --> 02:45:57.640
Would you like to speak to your motion?

02:45:57.640 --> 02:46:00.880
<v ->After confirming with the staff organization</v>

02:46:00.880 --> 02:46:04.330
and a couple of our content advisors

02:46:04.330 --> 02:46:05.560
this comes from,

02:46:05.560 --> 02:46:07.780
this is their recommendation.

02:46:07.780 --> 02:46:08.720
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:46:08.720 --> 02:46:10.140
Any other discussion on the item?

02:46:10.140 --> 02:46:10.973
Ms. Bahorich.

02:46:12.020 --> 02:46:14.220
<v ->I wanna make sure we get the right name in here.</v>

02:46:14.220 --> 02:46:16.550
So I might wanna change it from K-12 framework,

02:46:16.550 --> 02:46:17.980
that sounds so generic.

02:46:17.980 --> 02:46:18.930
But it actually is

02:46:18.930 --> 02:46:22.390
A Framework for K-12 Science Education

02:46:22.390 --> 02:46:23.510
is the proper name.

02:46:25.520 --> 02:46:27.760
<v Dr. Ellis>That would be an order after this motion.</v>

02:46:27.760 --> 02:46:28.593
<v ->Oh, okay.</v>

02:46:28.593 --> 02:46:30.000
So we k-- Okay.

02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:30.833
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:46:31.877 --> 02:46:33.070
<v ->I have a quick question, I guess you're</v>

02:46:33.070 --> 02:46:34.760
the maker of the motion.
<v ->Yes sir.</v>

02:46:34.760 --> 02:46:36.590
<v ->We're gonna Mr. Riley, then Mr. Maynard,</v>

02:46:36.590 --> 02:46:37.740
then Ms. Perez-Diaz.
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:46:37.740 --> 02:46:39.370
And so,

02:46:39.370 --> 02:46:44.340
seeing as how we're only directing them to consider

02:46:44.340 --> 02:46:46.420
the Next Generation Science Standards

02:46:46.420 --> 02:46:48.010
and not mandating anything,

02:46:48.010 --> 02:46:50.560
I'm just wondering why they can't consider it even?

02:46:53.060 --> 02:46:54.429
<v Member>Would you like to speak to it?</v>

02:46:54.429 --> 02:46:56.100
Go ahead.

02:46:56.100 --> 02:46:57.758
We're all on the same page.

02:46:57.758 --> 02:46:58.920
Yeah.

02:46:58.920 --> 02:47:00.630
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Hardy.</v>

02:47:00.630 --> 02:47:02.380
I will speak to that.

02:47:02.380 --> 02:47:03.630
The,

02:47:03.630 --> 02:47:04.940
the standards,

02:47:06.032 --> 02:47:09.700
the K-12 standards that Donna just renamed

02:47:09.700 --> 02:47:14.140
that is widely accepted by our reviewers

02:47:15.175 --> 02:47:16.850
our expert people.
<v ->The framework?</v>

02:47:16.850 --> 02:47:17.940
<v ->Yeah, framework, thank you.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:47:17.940 --> 02:47:19.400
<v ->I can't think of the word.</v>

02:47:19.400 --> 02:47:20.820
The framework is.

02:47:20.820 --> 02:47:21.740
And it's,

02:47:21.740 --> 02:47:23.600
it's getting kinda muddled together,

02:47:23.600 --> 02:47:25.580
framework and the other,

02:47:27.400 --> 02:47:28.460
deal.

02:47:28.460 --> 02:47:31.450
And the framework is a really good starting point

02:47:31.450 --> 02:47:34.850
and a really good thing to pull into our standards.

02:47:34.850 --> 02:47:36.900
The other, they could use it

02:47:36.900 --> 02:47:39.330
but it might add confusion to it

02:47:39.330 --> 02:47:41.020
because it's a whole different setup.

02:47:41.020 --> 02:47:43.460
It's a whole different organization.

02:47:43.460 --> 02:47:46.620
Whereas the framework could be,

02:47:46.620 --> 02:47:48.960
is a more clear understanding of what

02:47:49.810 --> 02:47:53.045
we want them to do in the way of science standards.

02:47:53.045 --> 02:47:54.560
<v Member>Okay.</v>

02:47:55.458 --> 02:47:56.680
<v ->Might I speak to that?</v>
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:47:56.680 --> 02:47:59.160
<v ->And so while I guess if we're just,</v>

02:47:59.160 --> 02:48:01.720
I mean, if it confuses them, I understand.

02:48:01.720 --> 02:48:03.700
But all we're doing is asking them

02:48:03.700 --> 02:48:05.140
to consider as a resource,

02:48:06.170 --> 02:48:07.910
those other standards.

02:48:07.910 --> 02:48:08.810
I don't feel strongly about it

02:48:08.810 --> 02:48:10.330
one way or the other.
<v ->The framework is really good</v>

02:48:10.330 --> 02:48:11.680
and the other isn't so good.

02:48:11.680 --> 02:48:12.513
How about that?

02:48:13.650 --> 02:48:15.000
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:48:15.000 --> 02:48:15.833
I've got,

02:48:15.833 --> 02:48:17.360
are you speaking on this point?

02:48:17.360 --> 02:48:19.630
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->Okay, Ms. Perez-Diaz.</v>

02:48:19.630 --> 02:48:20.760
<v ->Thank you Chairman.</v>

02:48:20.760 --> 02:48:21.593
So I do have a,

02:48:21.593 --> 02:48:22.426
I do have a question.

02:48:22.426 --> 02:48:24.290
I'm trying to understand,

02:48:24.290 --> 02:48:27.390
so the recommendation to remove

02:48:27.390 --> 02:48:30.560
the Next Gen Science Standards comes from

02:48:30.560 --> 02:48:33.290
the content experts

02:48:33.290 --> 02:48:34.910
that were,

02:48:36.330 --> 02:48:38.080
that did not testify yesterday.

02:48:39.495 --> 02:48:40.890
Is that correct?

02:48:40.890 --> 02:48:42.705
<v Member>Well the people that testified were not.</v>

02:48:42.705 --> 02:48:44.500
<v ->Microphone please.</v>
<v ->Right, so I just,</v>

02:48:44.500 --> 02:48:46.810
so but, it doesn't include the people

02:48:46.810 --> 02:48:48.950
who came and testified yesterday, is that correct?

02:48:51.180 --> 02:48:52.580
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Perez, if you'd like to respond to that</v>

02:48:52.580 --> 02:48:54.050
please turn on your microphone.

02:48:55.790 --> 02:48:59.170
<v ->I think it includes some but not all.</v>

02:49:00.360 --> 02:49:01.940
<v ->I guess what I'm trying to get at is...</v>

02:49:03.330 --> 02:49:05.800
So for me, framework and science standards

02:49:05.800 --> 02:49:06.633
it's two separate things.

02:49:06.633 --> 02:49:08.530
And I understand that.
<v ->Right.</v>

02:49:08.530 --> 02:49:10.120
<v ->The science standards, I think,</v>

02:49:10.120 --> 02:49:12.000
would help to inform,

02:49:12.000 --> 02:49:13.650
just looking at the content

02:49:15.020 --> 02:49:16.090
each standard at a time.

02:49:16.090 --> 02:49:19.020
Whereas the framework sort of creates what that

02:49:19.020 --> 02:49:20.370
ultimately could look like.

02:49:21.530 --> 02:49:23.910
So ultimate implementation.

02:49:23.910 --> 02:49:25.340
Where I'm concerned with

02:49:26.270 --> 02:49:29.060
I think we had a long, drawn-out conversation

02:49:29.060 --> 02:49:31.760
about how even to word this particular item.

02:49:31.760 --> 02:49:33.630
And then I think by removing

02:49:33.630 --> 02:49:35.060
the Next Gen Science Standards,

02:49:35.060 --> 02:49:37.960
we're ignoring many, many practitioners.

02:49:37.960 --> 02:49:40.870
I'm talking about thousands of practitioners

02:49:40.870 --> 02:49:43.310
that looked at this and made recommendations

02:49:43.310 --> 02:49:46.250
to the individuals who testified yesterday

02:49:46.250 --> 02:49:48.250
who are they themselves, practitioners.

02:49:51.250 --> 02:49:53.400
Who testified to using

02:49:53.400 --> 02:49:55.230
the Next Gen Science Standards already.

02:49:55.230 --> 02:49:56.480
And so,

02:49:56.480 --> 02:49:57.350
where I

02:49:57.350 --> 02:50:01.110
I respect and value the opinion of our content experts.

02:50:01.110 --> 02:50:03.360
I also very much highly respect and value

02:50:03.360 --> 02:50:06.250
the opinion of people who are practicing.

02:50:06.250 --> 02:50:07.270
And if they're n--

02:50:07.270 --> 02:50:08.530
They didn't seem to be confused

02:50:08.530 --> 02:50:11.866
when they came and testified about using both.

02:50:11.866 --> 02:50:13.440
I,

02:50:13.440 --> 02:50:14.830
I think I would speak in,

02:50:14.830 --> 02:50:16.830
I would speak against the motion.

02:50:18.040 --> 02:50:20.910
<v Dr. Ellis>Mr. Maynard and then Ms. Davis.</v>

02:50:20.910 --> 02:50:23.020
<v ->And this is a question perhaps for,</v>

02:50:23.870 --> 02:50:24.860
for staff, but,

02:50:26.170 --> 02:50:29.290
the effect of the motion if we strike

02:50:30.140 --> 02:50:31.560
Next Generation Science Standards

02:50:31.560 --> 02:50:33.530
that does not preclude them

02:50:33.530 --> 02:50:35.370
or prohibit them in any way

02:50:35.370 --> 02:50:37.230
from consulting them or looking at them,

02:50:37.230 --> 02:50:38.380
it just says is that,

02:50:39.220 --> 02:50:40.470
it's just not officially.

02:50:40.470 --> 02:50:42.620
In other words, we're directing them

02:50:42.620 --> 02:50:44.220
to look at the framework.

02:50:45.560 --> 02:50:46.870
But we're not prohibiting them

02:50:46.870 --> 02:50:48.900
from looking at the other.
<v ->Right.</v>

02:50:48.900 --> 02:50:50.090
<v ->All right, thank you.</v>

02:50:50.090 --> 02:50:51.230
<v Dr. Ellis>You wanna speak to that point</v>

02:50:51.230 --> 02:50:52.617
before I call on Ms. Davis?
<v ->I do.</v>

02:50:52.617 --> 02:50:54.630
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->I beg to differ</v>

02:50:54.630 --> 02:50:55.570
in the sense that

02:50:55.570 --> 02:50:58.210
if you're looking at the legislative history

02:50:58.210 --> 02:51:00.180
of a motion like this,

02:51:00.180 --> 02:51:01.720
if it was in there

02:51:01.720 --> 02:51:03.640
and we struck it

02:51:03.640 --> 02:51:05.730
then that's a pretty good indication

02:51:05.730 --> 02:51:08.860
that we're not wanting them to consider it.

02:51:08.860 --> 02:51:10.430
Because by this vote,

02:51:10.430 --> 02:51:11.630
and by the affirmative action

02:51:11.630 --> 02:51:13.570
that we're about to take right here,

02:51:13.570 --> 02:51:16.490
we're striking that as something that

02:51:16.490 --> 02:51:19.670
that is no longer to consider

02:51:19.670 --> 02:51:22.290
based upon an affirmative representation of ours.

02:51:22.290 --> 02:51:25.680
So, I think striking it basically says

02:51:26.660 --> 02:51:27.860
that the will of this group

02:51:27.860 --> 02:51:30.170
is that they not consider that.

02:51:30.170 --> 02:51:32.260
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Davis, do you wanna speak on this motion?</v>

02:51:32.260 --> 02:51:33.123
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->Or on this point.</v>

02:51:33.123 --> 02:51:34.060
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

02:51:34.060 --> 02:51:37.290
<v ->I'm strongly in favor of striking that NGSS.</v>

02:51:38.924 --> 02:51:43.780
I do strongly respect our testifiers who came.

02:51:43.780 --> 02:51:45.760
But we saw through data

02:51:45.760 --> 02:51:48.260
that states that utilize NGSS

02:51:48.260 --> 02:51:50.890
a lot of them are performing worse than Texas.

02:51:50.890 --> 02:51:52.100
And this is the framework.

02:51:52.100 --> 02:51:55.360
The NGSS is riddled with a lot of criticism.

02:51:55.360 --> 02:51:57.250
And so, even though they loved it

02:51:57.250 --> 02:51:58.540
it's still a lot of criticism

02:51:58.540 --> 02:52:00.390
that we didn't really discuss along with it.

02:52:00.390 --> 02:52:02.320
And so I do want you to keep that in mind.

02:52:02.320 --> 02:52:06.000
But we do have lots and lots and lots of educators

02:52:06.000 --> 02:52:07.900
who have reached out to several of us

02:52:07.900 --> 02:52:11.840
to support the K-12 framework over NGSS standards.

02:52:11.840 --> 02:52:13.400
Again it is aligned with some things

02:52:13.400 --> 02:52:15.800
that we normally don't agree with in Texas.

02:52:15.800 --> 02:52:17.660
So you just gotta keep in mind

02:52:17.660 --> 02:52:19.620
all of those different parts of NGSS

02:52:19.620 --> 02:52:22.040
that may not be best for Texas students.

02:52:23.220 --> 02:52:26.290
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, Ms. Perez-Diaz and then Ms. Cargill.</v>

02:52:26.290 --> 02:52:27.287
You still have a?

02:52:31.241 --> 02:52:32.850
<v ->So I still agree with member Rowley.</v>

02:52:32.850 --> 02:52:35.320
And I think that by striking NGSS

02:52:36.426 --> 02:52:38.690
I think we're taking away another potential resource

02:52:38.690 --> 02:52:39.523
for reference.

02:52:40.560 --> 02:52:43.600
Because, while I understand that

02:52:43.600 --> 02:52:45.900
if we remove the language it's not precluding,

02:52:47.040 --> 02:52:48.490
I think, one, we do send a message

02:52:48.490 --> 02:52:50.790
by striking something that we

02:52:50.790 --> 02:52:52.270
a few days ago had included

02:52:52.270 --> 02:52:53.860
that wasn't there prior.

02:52:53.860 --> 02:52:55.790
But I also think that if,

02:52:55.790 --> 02:52:56.650
some of our reviewers

02:52:56.650 --> 02:52:59.260
who aren't familiar with the NGSS

02:52:59.260 --> 02:53:02.590
as a potential reference or resource,

02:53:02.590 --> 02:53:04.990
won't know to look to it as a resource.

02:53:04.990 --> 02:53:06.330
So,

02:53:06.330 --> 02:53:10.860
so, yeah, I am curious about member Davis's points

02:53:10.860 --> 02:53:12.190
regarding the perspective

02:53:13.160 --> 02:53:16.220
that isn't in line with Texas's perspective.

02:53:18.010 --> 02:53:19.160
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Cargill.</v>

02:53:20.410 --> 02:53:21.243
<v ->Well I agree.</v>

02:53:21.243 --> 02:53:22.560
I think that

02:53:22.560 --> 02:53:24.620
just having the framework as a resource

02:53:24.620 --> 02:53:25.660
is gonna be sufficient.

02:53:25.660 --> 02:53:28.310
It's a very long document or book

02:53:28.310 --> 02:53:30.600
if they decide to order the book itself.

02:53:30.600 --> 02:53:34.060
And the NGSS were based upon that framework.

02:53:34.060 --> 02:53:35.440
So the original resource,

02:53:35.440 --> 02:53:38.010
the primary document so to speak

02:53:38.010 --> 02:53:39.730
is the framework, not the NGSS.

02:53:39.730 --> 02:53:43.310
And you have to go through very lengthy, lengthy trainings,

02:53:43.310 --> 02:53:46.930
which is part of the complaint, to understand the NGSS

02:53:46.930 --> 02:53:49.252
because they're very complex and convoluted.

02:53:49.252 --> 02:53:51.120
And they're pages and pages.

02:53:51.120 --> 02:53:52.540
So I think that would be an extra burden.

02:53:52.540 --> 02:53:55.700
Although, if our work groups wanna do that,

02:53:55.700 --> 02:53:57.110
that's fine.

02:53:57.110 --> 02:53:59.830
But I think the framework is definitely sufficient.

02:53:59.830 --> 02:54:03.050
And not to mention other current research

02:54:03.050 --> 02:54:05.100
that we hope that they will also look at.

02:54:06.630 --> 02:54:08.370
<v Dr. Ellis>Mr. Rowley.</v>

02:54:08.370 --> 02:54:13.370
<v ->So long as staff is willing to instruct the work groups,</v>

02:54:14.250 --> 02:54:15.083
that

02:54:17.310 --> 02:54:19.440
by passing this motion,

02:54:19.440 --> 02:54:23.070
we're not totally excluding that as a resource,

02:54:23.070 --> 02:54:24.610
then I'm fine with it.

02:54:24.610 --> 02:54:26.670
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->But so long as the message</v>

02:54:26.670 --> 02:54:28.740
that if the message that we're sending is,

02:54:28.740 --> 02:54:31.080
"Don't consider that," then

02:54:31.080 --> 02:54:32.710
and I don't know about

02:54:32.710 --> 02:54:33.691
the Next Generation Science Standards.

02:54:33.691 --> 02:54:36.260
<v ->I don't think they'll know.</v>
<v ->I might offer</v>

02:54:36.260 --> 02:54:37.400
a suggestion here.

02:54:38.520 --> 02:54:40.010
Well first, a clarification.

02:54:40.010 --> 02:54:43.740
So staff does pull together any number of resources.

02:54:43.740 --> 02:54:45.940
We don't limit the resources that we provide

02:54:45.940 --> 02:54:48.740
just to the things that you specifically call out.

02:54:48.740 --> 02:54:51.860
However, there are instances

02:54:51.860 --> 02:54:53.700
and I'll take us back to health education,

02:54:53.700 --> 02:54:55.060
there were a couple of resources

02:54:55.060 --> 02:54:58.690
that you asked us to make sure that we provided.

02:54:58.690 --> 02:55:02.410
So another approach that you could take here

02:55:02.410 --> 02:55:05.920
is as opposed to this being a motion to

02:55:05.920 --> 02:55:08.120
direct consideration by the work groups,

02:55:08.120 --> 02:55:10.260
you could instruct staff to specifically

02:55:10.260 --> 02:55:12.370
provide the framework.

02:55:12.370 --> 02:55:15.910
So we would make sure to provide that.

02:55:15.910 --> 02:55:18.210
Work groups are still able to consider

02:55:18.210 --> 02:55:19.910
anything that they want to consider

02:55:19.910 --> 02:55:22.330
but maybe if you just change it to,

02:55:22.330 --> 02:55:26.370
direct staff to provide the framework as a resource

02:55:26.370 --> 02:55:29.610
then you're not really speaking to what

02:55:29.610 --> 02:55:32.910
the work groups should or should not consider.

02:55:32.910 --> 02:55:34.440
And then they can,

02:55:34.440 --> 02:55:36.900
and as is often the case,

02:55:36.900 --> 02:55:39.310
they will often bring their own resources

02:55:39.310 --> 02:55:40.820
and information to the table.

02:55:45.930 --> 02:55:48.858
<v ->Ms. Perez-Diaz is partially raising her hand.</v>

02:55:48.858 --> 02:55:49.980
<v ->Yes.</v>

02:55:49.980 --> 02:55:51.070
Yes, sir, thank you.

02:55:51.070 --> 02:55:53.480
I am still really curious about

02:55:53.480 --> 02:55:55.930
before I take a position then on this,

02:55:55.930 --> 02:55:57.390
I'm really curious about

02:55:57.390 --> 02:56:00.270
what those particular pieces that NGSS aligns to

02:56:00.270 --> 02:56:01.730
that aren't aligned with Texas.

02:56:01.730 --> 02:56:03.090
I don't know if anybody can speak to that.

02:56:03.090 --> 02:56:04.740
But I am very curious about that.

02:56:06.360 --> 02:56:08.566
<v ->Anyone would like to speak to it?</v>

02:56:08.566 --> 02:56:12.420
<v Member>Ms. Davis raised it.</v>

02:56:12.420 --> 02:56:14.230
<v ->Ms. Davis.</v>

02:56:14.230 --> 02:56:17.030
<v ->So Texas does not adopt common core standards.</v>

02:56:17.030 --> 02:56:20.390
But they come from the same folks, Achieve Org.

02:56:20.390 --> 02:56:22.150
And so if you look, they're directly aligned

02:56:22.150 --> 02:56:24.200
in their ideas, the math, the English,

02:56:24.200 --> 02:56:26.100
it's aligned to common core standards.

02:56:32.890 --> 02:56:36.630
It's aligned to the math and the English

02:56:36.630 --> 02:56:38.850
that goes with the common core standards.

02:56:40.240 --> 02:56:42.230
Because they're from the same folks.

02:56:47.403 --> 02:56:49.920
<v ->All right, any, Ms. Bahorich.</v>

02:56:49.920 --> 02:56:50.940
<v ->The only thing I would say</v>

02:56:50.940 --> 02:56:53.990
and just looking at what is in the framework,

02:56:53.990 --> 02:56:57.030
I think, from our long discussion the other day

02:56:58.110 --> 02:56:58.943
is that,

02:57:00.770 --> 02:57:04.590
the framework contains the,

02:57:04.590 --> 02:57:05.990
okay, let me get back to it.

02:57:07.670 --> 02:57:09.050
Oh darn, I lost it,

02:57:09.050 --> 02:57:10.250
sorry, come back to me.

02:57:12.670 --> 02:57:14.170
This is pretty important, but,

02:57:15.520 --> 02:57:18.660
<v ->Someone wanna fill some time up on Ms. Bahorich's?</v>

02:57:18.660 --> 02:57:19.595
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, somebody fill time.</v>

02:57:19.595 --> 02:57:23.595
(members speaking indistinctly)

02:57:27.375 --> 02:57:29.220
<v Dr. Ellis>No jokes.</v>

02:57:29.220 --> 02:57:30.240
Okay--
<v ->Well I would say that</v>

02:57:30.240 --> 02:57:32.540
part of this is because

02:57:32.540 --> 02:57:34.210
when we received our document,

02:57:34.210 --> 02:57:37.060
our four-page document from our content advisors,

02:57:38.190 --> 02:57:39.860
I think what happened was

02:57:39.860 --> 02:57:42.080
there wasn't a great deal of information

02:57:42.080 --> 02:57:45.430
on NGSS in that document.

02:57:45.430 --> 02:57:49.630
Then we had four or five individuals

02:57:49.630 --> 02:57:52.310
not representing any organizations

02:57:52.310 --> 02:57:53.220
which is what we were,

02:57:53.220 --> 02:57:55.270
what we clearly pointed out

02:57:55.270 --> 02:57:57.360
they were speaking as individuals.

02:57:57.360 --> 02:57:59.090
Then this motion was made

02:57:59.090 --> 02:58:01.800
in, I think, perhaps reaction

02:58:01.800 --> 02:58:05.240
to four or five people testifying

02:58:05.240 --> 02:58:08.840
who were not speaking for science organizations

02:58:08.840 --> 02:58:12.530
and were not part of our content advisory team.

02:58:12.530 --> 02:58:14.170
And so I think that this

02:58:14.170 --> 02:58:18.330
not only is in a bit of a contradiction

02:58:18.330 --> 02:58:21.160
to what our content advisors sent us.

02:58:21.160 --> 02:58:23.440
But also, we made this motion

02:58:23.440 --> 02:58:25.920
without going back to our content advisors,

02:58:25.920 --> 02:58:28.550
without talking to our State

02:58:29.830 --> 02:58:31.850
science teacher organizations.

02:58:31.850 --> 02:58:33.300
So again, this doesn't tell them

02:58:33.300 --> 02:58:34.720
they cannot look at this book,

02:58:34.720 --> 02:58:36.760
we're not prohibiting that.

02:58:36.760 --> 02:58:39.250
We are just taking that out and saying,

02:58:39.250 --> 02:58:41.080
please focus on this.

02:58:41.080 --> 02:58:42.920
But staff is gonna bring in

02:58:42.920 --> 02:58:47.190
all the resources that they request, regardless.

02:58:47.190 --> 02:58:48.490
<v ->And for clarification I do believe</v>

02:58:48.490 --> 02:58:51.270
that the Metroplex Group had passed a resolution

02:58:51.270 --> 02:58:52.103
but the other ones hadn't.

02:58:52.103 --> 02:58:52.936
That was my.

02:58:54.868 --> 02:58:56.050
Do you have anything?

02:58:56.050 --> 02:58:57.190
Ms. Bahorich.

02:58:57.190 --> 02:58:59.050
<v ->Sorry guys, I lost my place here.</v>

02:58:59.050 --> 02:59:01.830
So the framework it says is,

02:59:01.830 --> 02:59:04.480
a compilation and it's 300 pages,

02:59:04.480 --> 02:59:07.940
of practices, cross-cutting concepts and core ideas.

02:59:07.940 --> 02:59:09.710
And I think the result of the conversation

02:59:09.710 --> 02:59:11.150
that we had around the circle

02:59:11.150 --> 02:59:13.020
was we're interested in what they believe

02:59:13.020 --> 02:59:16.430
are the core ideas in Next Generation Science Standards.

02:59:17.360 --> 02:59:19.400
But not necessarily in adopting them

02:59:19.400 --> 02:59:21.920
because our standards, particularly in high school,

02:59:21.920 --> 02:59:24.180
are much more content-rich

02:59:24.180 --> 02:59:26.410
as our testifiers testified to.

02:59:26.410 --> 02:59:29.100
And so, we're not trying to throw, again,

02:59:29.100 --> 02:59:31.000
the baby out with the bath water

02:59:31.000 --> 02:59:33.780
because we've got strong content standards

02:59:33.780 --> 02:59:34.900
particularly in high school,

02:59:34.900 --> 02:59:38.840
that are different from the actual NGSS standards.

02:59:38.840 --> 02:59:40.720
But the framework is very informative

02:59:40.720 --> 02:59:44.840
and that's where you're gonna get 99.9% of your value

02:59:44.840 --> 02:59:46.240
that would be to the work group.

02:59:46.240 --> 02:59:48.580
And that would be to understand the practices

02:59:48.580 --> 02:59:50.720
and that was, remember that engineering

02:59:50.720 --> 02:59:53.510
and then the practical to-do?

02:59:53.510 --> 02:59:54.710
Those are the practices.

02:59:55.630 --> 02:59:56.890
The cross-cutting concepts

02:59:56.890 --> 02:59:58.550
you know multi-disciplinary concepts

02:59:58.550 --> 02:59:59.700
and then the core ideas

02:59:59.700 --> 03:00:01.480
that they consider fundamental

03:00:01.480 --> 03:00:05.850
for all scientifically-literate citizens to have.

03:00:06.970 --> 03:00:08.420
You're gonna get that in the framework.

03:00:08.420 --> 03:00:11.420
So it's not paring it down to no resource,

03:00:11.420 --> 03:00:14.530
it's paring it down to the essential information

03:00:14.530 --> 03:00:17.180
that our work groups could benefit most from.

03:00:17.180 --> 03:00:18.900
And when you put those both in there,

03:00:18.900 --> 03:00:20.350
these are gigantic documents.

03:00:21.360 --> 03:00:22.800
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Davis.</v>

03:00:22.800 --> 03:00:25.830
<v ->I do wanna know, on the Moss position statement</v>

03:00:25.830 --> 03:00:28.670
they do not mention anything about NGSS

03:00:28.670 --> 03:00:30.470
in their own statement.

03:00:30.470 --> 03:00:32.690
We had somebody who testified from them.

03:00:32.690 --> 03:00:33.730
But on the position statement

03:00:33.730 --> 03:00:35.030
we received from the organization

03:00:35.030 --> 03:00:36.830
they do not say anything about NGSS.

03:00:39.442 --> 03:00:42.430
<v ->All right, any other discussion on this amendment?</v>

03:00:43.510 --> 03:00:45.506
All right, Ms. Hardy.
<v ->I will say that--</v>

03:00:45.506 --> 03:00:50.400
<v ->Microphone please.</v>

03:00:50.400 --> 03:00:52.360
<v ->Someone in our audience who explained to me</v>

03:00:52.360 --> 03:00:57.070
that she sent us a copy of this framework online

03:00:57.070 --> 03:00:58.880
and all of us got it on our computer.

03:00:58.880 --> 03:00:59.713
So, if--

03:00:59.713 --> 03:01:01.040
<v ->All of us?</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

03:01:01.040 --> 03:01:05.480
It's from Lisa Owens at the Region 13.

03:01:07.270 --> 03:01:09.870
<v ->All right, any other discussion on this amendment.</v>

03:01:11.390 --> 03:01:12.223
Hearing none.

03:01:14.000 --> 03:01:17.360
All those in favor of the amendment as presented

03:01:17.360 --> 03:01:19.585
please vote by saying, "Aye."

03:01:19.585 --> 03:01:22.010
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->All those opposed say, "No."</v>

03:01:22.010 --> 03:01:22.843
<v Members>No.</v>

03:01:25.020 --> 03:01:27.620
<v ->There's a majority so the motion passes.</v>

03:01:27.620 --> 03:01:29.260
And the amendment passes.

03:01:31.483 --> 03:01:35.500
And that brings us back to the main motion,

03:01:35.500 --> 03:01:36.809
correct?
<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

03:01:36.809 --> 03:01:38.910
<v ->As it is written on the screen.</v>

03:01:38.910 --> 03:01:40.980
<v ->Yes sir.</v>
<v ->And we'll call on</v>

03:01:40.980 --> 03:01:41.813
Ms. Bahorich.

03:01:43.030 --> 03:01:45.330
<v ->I just wanna put the proper name in the amendment</v>

03:01:45.330 --> 03:01:46.163
if we could.

03:01:46.163 --> 03:01:50.260
It's called A Framework for K-12 Science Education.

03:01:50.260 --> 03:01:52.620
So instead of just saying K-12 Framework,

03:01:52.620 --> 03:01:56.540
it would be A Framework for K-12 Science Education

03:01:56.540 --> 03:01:57.540
to be very specific.

03:02:06.450 --> 03:02:08.291
But I also would like to,

03:02:08.291 --> 03:02:10.800
and Monica, help me with the language,

03:02:10.800 --> 03:02:13.760
to say staff would give it to them.

03:02:13.760 --> 03:02:15.590
Like not just consider it.

03:02:15.590 --> 03:02:16.423
They would consider it

03:02:16.423 --> 03:02:17.370
but the staff would give it to them.

03:02:17.370 --> 03:02:19.240
So I'd like to fix that part.

03:02:19.240 --> 03:02:20.634
<v ->So,</v>

03:02:20.634 --> 03:02:22.630
that the State Board of Education

03:02:22.630 --> 03:02:25.540
direct staff to provide

03:02:25.540 --> 03:02:28.660
A Framework for K-12 Science Education.

03:02:28.660 --> 03:02:30.010
<v ->As a resource.</v>
<v ->Mm-hmm.</v>

03:02:31.790 --> 03:02:32.950
<v ->Correct?</v>
<v ->Yes, ma'am.</v>

03:02:32.950 --> 03:02:34.010
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:02:34.010 --> 03:02:35.260
Did you get that Kay?

03:02:35.260 --> 03:02:37.415
'Cause that would be my full motion.

03:02:37.415 --> 03:02:41.165
(member speaks indistinctly)

03:02:42.420 --> 03:02:45.510
<v Dr. Ellis>I think the first amendment needs to be</v>

03:02:45.510 --> 03:02:48.110
changing the name.
<v ->Right, and then we'll</v>

03:02:48.110 --> 03:02:49.850
<v ->And then we can do--</v>
<v ->add the staff.</v>

03:02:49.850 --> 03:02:50.790
<v ->But can I do them together?</v>

03:02:50.790 --> 03:02:51.700
'Cause I'd like to do both.

03:02:51.700 --> 03:02:53.240
<v ->I don't think they touch each other.</v>

03:02:53.240 --> 03:02:55.910
The one is just germane to the name.

03:02:56.950 --> 03:02:57.850
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->So let's get that</v>

03:02:57.850 --> 03:02:59.240
out the way first.
<v ->Yeah,</v>

03:02:59.240 --> 03:03:00.790
there should be no objection.
<v ->So is there any,</v>

03:03:00.790 --> 03:03:02.070
is there a second?
<v ->Second.</v>

03:03:02.920 --> 03:03:04.420
<v ->Is there any further debate?</v>

03:03:05.450 --> 03:03:07.950
Hearing none, is there any objection?

03:03:07.950 --> 03:03:09.600
<v ->No.</v>
<v ->Hearing none.</v>

03:03:09.600 --> 03:03:11.370
The amendment passes now.

03:03:14.050 --> 03:03:18.610
<v ->So direct the staff to provide</v>

03:03:18.610 --> 03:03:20.910
the science TEKS review work groups

03:03:22.140 --> 03:03:24.500
a Framework, blah, blah, blah

03:03:26.090 --> 03:03:28.390
as a resource to inform recommendations.

03:03:32.801 --> 03:03:33.634
The staff.

03:03:37.730 --> 03:03:40.210
To pro--

03:03:40.210 --> 03:03:41.300
vide

03:03:41.300 --> 03:03:42.133
the

03:03:43.800 --> 03:03:44.633
work groups

03:03:46.630 --> 03:03:47.463
and then strike,

03:03:49.027 --> 03:03:50.810
<v Member>You actually don't need work groups.</v>

03:03:50.810 --> 03:03:53.117
<v ->Oh, okay, sorry.</v>
<v ->You've already got them.</v>

03:03:53.117 --> 03:03:54.470
<v ->Oh yeah, provide the framework.</v>

03:03:54.470 --> 03:03:56.080
Just, yeah, delete everything down

03:03:56.080 --> 03:03:57.180
to the framework name.

03:04:13.120 --> 03:04:14.890
Review work groups,

03:04:14.890 --> 03:04:16.320
with a, yeah, yeah.

03:04:17.815 --> 03:04:18.648
With.

03:04:24.887 --> 03:04:26.090
You could just say as a resource

03:04:26.090 --> 03:04:27.600
you don't even need, to be used as a resource.

03:04:27.600 --> 03:04:28.550
Just as a resource.

03:04:35.140 --> 03:04:36.540
<v ->Is that?</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

03:04:36.540 --> 03:04:37.480
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:04:37.480 --> 03:04:38.660
So we have the motion.

03:04:38.660 --> 03:04:39.840
Do we have a second?

03:04:41.195 --> 03:04:42.028
The motion is seconded.

03:04:42.028 --> 03:04:44.430
Is there discussion on this motion?

03:04:46.150 --> 03:04:47.700
Hearing none, is there any objection to

03:04:47.700 --> 03:04:48.960
the motion as presented?

03:04:50.540 --> 03:04:53.360
Hearing none, the amendment prevails.

03:04:53.360 --> 03:04:55.060
Now we're back to the main motion.

03:04:56.400 --> 03:04:58.950
Is there any further discussion on the main motion?

03:05:01.150 --> 03:05:04.635
Hearing none, all in favor please vote by saying, "Aye."

03:05:04.635 --> 03:05:06.490
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Any opposed say, "No."</v>

03:05:07.707 --> 03:05:08.540
All right, the motion,

03:05:08.540 --> 03:05:10.130
there's a majority in favor

03:05:10.130 --> 03:05:13.071
and the recommendation is adopted.

03:05:13.071 --> 03:05:16.460
<v ->Okay, so now are we back to item six</v>

03:05:17.410 --> 03:05:19.390
on the Committee of the Full Board?

03:05:19.390 --> 03:05:20.550
This is on page three.

03:05:20.550 --> 03:05:23.030
<v ->No, I think we're gonna--</v>
<v ->From January 28th.</v>

03:05:23.030 --> 03:05:24.480
<v Dr. Ellis>Is that the African American Studies?</v>

03:05:24.480 --> 03:05:26.390
<v ->Yep.</v>
<v ->We're gonna go to</v>

03:05:26.390 --> 03:05:28.070
finish CSI before we go back to,

03:05:28.070 --> 03:05:29.810
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->African American studies.</v>

03:05:30.790 --> 03:05:32.698
<v Member>If I can have just a second</v>

03:05:32.698 --> 03:05:37.698
so that I can get to this.

03:05:45.440 --> 03:05:47.630
<v ->Dr. Robinson had something.</v>

03:05:47.630 --> 03:05:49.660
<v Dr. Ellis>While she's doing that, Dr. Robinson.</v>

03:05:49.660 --> 03:05:51.260
<v ->I'd like to withdraw my motion</v>

03:05:52.140 --> 03:05:54.200
regarding the date, January 1st, 2021.

03:05:54.200 --> 03:05:57.370
<v ->Okay, we're letting--</v>
<v ->It died for lack of a second</v>

03:05:57.370 --> 03:05:59.850
so it's okay.

03:05:59.850 --> 03:06:01.740
<v ->I think actually Gina seconded.</v>

03:06:01.740 --> 03:06:02.840
<v ->Oh, she did second.</v>

03:06:04.176 --> 03:06:05.760
<v ->But as soon as we let Ms. Kay catch up</v>

03:06:05.760 --> 03:06:07.320
we will,
<v ->Yeah, I'm just trying to</v>

03:06:07.320 --> 03:06:09.710
<v ->we'll acknowledge</v>
<v ->make sure I've got</v>

03:06:09.710 --> 03:06:11.280
<v ->Dr. Robinson's withdrawal.</v>
<v ->everything.</v>

03:06:13.836 --> 03:06:15.943
We're taking deep breaths.
<v ->All right.</v>

03:06:30.041 --> 03:06:31.420
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:06:31.420 --> 03:06:34.490
So Dr. Robinson has withdrawn his amendment.

03:06:36.200 --> 03:06:37.350
Is there any objection?

03:06:38.400 --> 03:06:39.840
Hearing none.

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I will now call on Ms. Cargill.

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<v ->Okay, so,</v>

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I believe everyone has a copy of the substitute text.

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It was either in your box or on your desk.

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And so,

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I'll let staff explain the implications of the date changes.

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But basically on,

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at the end of section 61.1

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so I'm looking at substitute text, chapter 61,

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Board of Trustees Relationship, etc.

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So,

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the first section is section 61.1

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continuing education for school board members.

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And if you'll flip to about the one, two,

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the third,

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fourth page in,

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this would be a new section M as in monkey.

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<v ->On page four?</v>
<v ->Well,</v>

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it doesn't have page numbers.

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Mine doesn't have page numbers.

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But, it's about the fourth page.

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<v ->It's letter M?</v>
<v ->Letter M,</v>

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it's right above section 61.2.

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So find section 61.2 and it would fit right above that.

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61.2 is at the bottom of the,

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fourth page in.

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<v ->Fourth page from back?</v>
<v ->No, don't count back, sorry.</v>

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I'm not counting back.

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<v Member>It's the last page, right, evident?</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Yes it is.</v>

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<v ->It is, yes.</v>

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All right, so new section M

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and the motion is up on the screen.

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<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->So I move</v>

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to insert new M

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this section is implemented May 1st, 2020.

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Section 61.1 as it read prior to adoption

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by the State Board of Education

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at their January 2020 hearing

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controls continuing education for school board members

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until May 1st, 2020.

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If could get a second,

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we'll call staff up to.
<v ->You've heard the motion,</v>

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do we have a second?

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<v ->Second.</v>
<v ->All right,</v>

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so staff will come and un-peel that onion for us

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and tell us the implications of it.

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<v ->Yeah, so,</v>

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what you're hearing here is,

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you're directing that the

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changes are effective on

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20 days after filing.

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But, we won't implement those sections until

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May 1st, 2020.

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So,

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just as an FYI for you

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because of the way the Secretary of State's office works

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once it's effective you won't actually

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be able to see the prior language.

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So we will PDF a copy of that

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and have that available on our webpage for board training

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so people can access that.

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(board member speaking indistinctly)

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<v ->Yeah, the reason for the May 1st implementation.</v>

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You have to apologize and correct me

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'cause I keep getting confused,

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effective and implementation,

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but the May 1st implementation is that

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with the board members for the May election,

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for the May school board elections

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schools that have May elections

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the board member trainings are made public

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in their April board meetings.

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So this way it doesn't put

03:09:59.180 --> 03:10:00.660
board members at a disadvantage

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they still go by the old rule for board training.

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And then effective May 1st

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the new training will go in play

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for all further elections moving forward.

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Does that
<v ->Okay.</v>

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And Dr. Gore,
<v ->make sense?</v>

03:10:14.530 --> 03:10:17.480
<v ->Would you mind coming to the podium as well</v>

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and,

03:10:20.334 --> 03:10:23.120
it's my understanding that TASB is okay with this

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this measure as well?
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

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This is a great idea

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and it'll make it cleaner and simpler

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for trustees to be in compliance.

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Thank you for that.
<v ->Okay, very good.</v>

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Okay, thank you gentlemen.

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Any further discussion on the proposed amendment

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adding subsection?
<v ->Yeah,</v>

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Ms. Bahorich.
<v ->This is just</v>

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a point of information.

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Now we changed, your amendment was which one

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which one did we change in this section?

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Didn't we change one?

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<v ->It was 61.1,</v>

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61.1 B four F.

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<v ->Now I'm gonna get to make sure.</v>

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61.1 B?

03:11:06.780 --> 03:11:08.250
<v ->B as in boy.</v>
<v ->Four F.</v>

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<v Mr. Rowley>Four F.</v>

03:11:11.430 --> 03:11:13.220
<v ->Four F and,</v>
<v ->There it is right there.</v>

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Yeah it's,
<v ->Okay.</v>

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Okay.
<v ->It starts,</v>

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the team-building session shall be provided

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by an authorized provider.

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See that?
<v ->Okay, got it.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

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I just--
<v ->Okay.</v>

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Anything further on this amendment

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with regard to the implementation date?

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By the way, we've not yet determined the effective date

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until we take the two-thirds vote suspending the rules.

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But for now, let's look at the implementation date.

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Everybody good?

03:11:43.270 --> 03:11:44.770
Any further discussion?

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All those in favor signify by saying, "Aye."

03:11:47.480 --> 03:11:50.210
<v ->Aye.</v>
<v ->Opposed, "No."</v>

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Motion carries.

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(gavel bangs)

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Okay.

03:11:53.552 --> 03:11:54.385
Okay.

03:11:55.580 --> 03:11:57.100
I do kinda like it.

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Authoritative, finally.

03:11:58.680 --> 03:12:00.000
A little bit of authority in here.

03:12:00.000 --> 03:12:01.660
Okay.

03:12:01.660 --> 03:12:04.680
And so now we're at the main motion.

03:12:05.770 --> 03:12:06.603
Right?

03:12:08.730 --> 03:12:09.580
As amended,

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on the screen, there you go.

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Okay, it's recommended that

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the State Board of Education

03:12:17.210 --> 03:12:19.320
approve for second reading and final adoption

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proposed amendments to 19 TAC Chapter 61,

03:12:22.830 --> 03:12:25.020
School Districts, Subchapter A,

03:12:25.020 --> 03:12:26.820
Board of Trustees Relationship

03:12:28.100 --> 03:12:29.750
as substituted

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as amended.

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And further that we make an affirmative finding that

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immediate adoption of the proposed amendments to

03:12:37.550 --> 03:12:40.660
19 TAC Chapter 61, School Districts,

03:12:40.660 --> 03:12:43.380
Subchapter A, Board of Trustee Relationship

03:12:43.380 --> 03:12:45.280
is necessary and shall have an effective date

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of 20 days after filing

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as adopted with the Texas Register.

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This requires a two-thirds vote.

03:12:51.080 --> 03:12:52.600
Is there any further discussion

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on the motion as amended?

03:12:56.060 --> 03:12:58.310
Hearing none, all those in favor signify

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by raising your right hand please.

03:13:04.310 --> 03:13:05.440
Okay, all opposed.

03:13:06.410 --> 03:13:07.770
Okay, motion carries.

03:13:07.770 --> 03:13:08.603
(gavel bangs)

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I shall now relinquish,

03:13:09.830 --> 03:13:12.392
reluctantly relinquish the gavel back to.

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(members laughing)

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<v ->What is it, give him a gavel he takes a</v>

03:13:21.850 --> 03:13:24.170
something or other, takes a sledge hammer?

03:13:26.600 --> 03:13:28.860
All right, so I believe now

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we're left to one last item

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that is proposed revisions to 19 TAC, Chapter 113.

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This is part of the Committee of the Full Board.

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On my notes it's number five here.

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Is that?
<v ->Yeah, it's,</v>

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it's official agenda item five,

03:13:44.820 --> 03:13:48.060
it's number six, I believe, in the minutes.

03:13:48.060 --> 03:13:49.790
It's on page three.

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And I read that, I guess, at this point, right?

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And then with amendments.
<v ->Yep.</v>

03:13:56.380 --> 03:13:58.820
<v ->Okay, it's recommended that the State Board of Education</v>

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approve for first reading and filing authorization

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proposed revisions to 19 TAC, Chapter 113,

03:14:05.580 --> 03:14:08.060
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Social Studies,

03:14:08.060 --> 03:14:10.100
Subchapter C, High School,

03:14:10.100 --> 03:14:13.210
and Subchapter D, Other Social Studies Courses,

03:14:13.210 --> 03:14:14.043
as amended.

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<v Ms. Martinez>Chairman.</v>

03:14:18.280 --> 03:14:21.000
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->So in addition to,</v>

03:14:21.000 --> 03:14:22.580
you're getting two handouts right now.

03:14:22.580 --> 03:14:24.720
One is, I believe, a set of amendments

03:14:24.720 --> 03:14:27.400
the other is the rule text

03:14:27.400 --> 03:14:30.130
that reflects all of the amendments

03:14:30.130 --> 03:14:32.820
from the committee earlier this week.

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So we've used the standard format of

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anything that was stricken is in red,

03:14:37.630 --> 03:14:39.890
anything that was added is in green.

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And then we do have one item that's in purple

03:14:42.690 --> 03:14:44.640
and that was a request from staff

03:14:44.640 --> 03:14:47.400
to move some language to reorganize.

03:14:54.400 --> 03:14:55.825
<v ->All right, so we have our motion,</v>

03:14:55.825 --> 03:14:57.457
did we get a second?

03:14:57.457 --> 03:14:58.673
<v ->Second.</v>
<v ->Second.</v>

03:14:58.673 --> 03:15:01.256
All right, is there discussion?

03:15:04.552 --> 03:15:06.521
<v Member>Georgina do you have anything?</v>

03:15:06.521 --> 03:15:07.601
<v Ms. Perez>Yes.</v>

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But this is not my document.

03:15:09.609 --> 03:15:11.131
This is my document.

03:15:11.131 --> 03:15:13.276
Do you wanna start with this one?

03:15:13.276 --> 03:15:15.230
Thank you.

03:15:15.230 --> 03:15:17.430
So the entire document in front of you

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is the entirety of the course.

03:15:19.440 --> 03:15:21.170
The reason I included the entire document

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is so it's easier for you to follow along.

03:15:23.630 --> 03:15:24.930
I think that,

03:15:27.240 --> 03:15:28.550
as you're going through it

03:15:28.550 --> 03:15:32.140
I think we can make this as one blanket amendment

03:15:32.140 --> 03:15:33.260
because it's,

03:15:33.260 --> 03:15:36.550
there aren't content revisions

03:15:36.550 --> 03:15:40.040
these are just chronological order revisions.

03:15:40.040 --> 03:15:40.873
And,

03:15:42.240 --> 03:15:44.210
clarification for teaching and learning

03:15:45.130 --> 03:15:47.670
primarily the verbs for Bloom's Taxonomy

03:15:47.670 --> 03:15:49.280
and social studies.

03:15:49.280 --> 03:15:51.300
I'm okay, unless anybody wants

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to go through each one of these

03:15:53.380 --> 03:15:55.600
I would accept a blanket,

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and accept them all at once.

03:15:57.480 --> 03:15:59.350
<v Ms. Cargill>Well let's just have a few minutes.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

03:16:00.183 --> 03:16:01.370
<v ->Ms. Cargill.</v>
<v ->I just have a question.</v>

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So for example where it says,

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"Such as the Freedom Riders

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"and Memphis Sanitation Workers Strike,"

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that was already in there, you just moved it,

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that's on page nine.

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Like it's just reverse--

03:16:15.180 --> 03:16:17.000
I don't remember Memphis Sanitation.

03:16:17.000 --> 03:16:18.987
Well, maybe it was in there.

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But.

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<v ->These are such as's, and not included or required.</v>

03:16:30.010 --> 03:16:31.190
<v ->Right, but,</v>

03:16:32.360 --> 03:16:34.670
from what I heard you say, you just did

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clarification, but that looks like new content.

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But maybe it's not.

03:16:40.290 --> 03:16:42.250
Maybe it's--
<v ->I think that's what staff...</v>

03:16:44.240 --> 03:16:46.660
<v ->This was part of the discussion that we had.</v>

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It's not something that was not discussed

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and brought today.

03:16:51.890 --> 03:16:54.017
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Well, can,</v>

03:16:54.017 --> 03:16:55.870
<v ->Go ahead.</v>
<v ->Can I ask a question?</v>

03:16:55.870 --> 03:16:57.720
<v ->Yeah, so that is,</v>

03:16:59.180 --> 03:17:02.690
that sanitation, Memphis Sanitation Workers Strike

03:17:02.690 --> 03:17:05.860
wasn't in the text before,

03:17:05.860 --> 03:17:06.910
right?
<v ->Right.</v>

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<v ->Okay, so could we go through</v>

03:17:08.940 --> 03:17:11.420
and point out anywhere

03:17:11.420 --> 03:17:13.890
there are additions to the language

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even though it may be a such as?

03:17:16.899 --> 03:17:18.120
But other than,

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I see where you've changed, for example,

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into assess and discuss to describe and explain.

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And,

03:17:26.310 --> 03:17:27.670
that's fine with me.

03:17:28.730 --> 03:17:32.010
But if we're adding, even as a such as,

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a substantive content,

03:17:35.230 --> 03:17:37.650
if you'd just point that out, I'd appreciate it.

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<v ->Actually, while you're looking at that</v>

03:17:40.130 --> 03:17:42.160
there were some staff recommendations

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that were included in Ms. Perez's document

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that I would think would be good

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for Ms. Martinez to go over now

03:17:49.480 --> 03:17:52.110
so that those are clear that those are staff.

03:17:52.110 --> 03:17:54.270
And then anything left would be,

03:17:54.270 --> 03:17:55.800
so that way we're not overlapping.

03:17:55.800 --> 03:17:56.633
<v Mr. Rowley>Okay.</v>

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<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

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So the first one is that very on page one A,

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we realized yesterday

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that we had not included

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the language on general requirements.

03:18:08.870 --> 03:18:10.340
This is something that is standard

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for all of your high school courses.

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And so, essentially, we're just suggesting

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that you add the language that would

03:18:17.610 --> 03:18:19.860
mirror what we have in the

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Mexican American studies course.

03:18:22.950 --> 03:18:26.000
The second suggested adjustment

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is going to be on page three

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of Ms. Perez's document.

03:18:32.390 --> 03:18:36.840
And it has to do with two A and two B.

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That language was

03:18:39.930 --> 03:18:41.700
we felt like a little bit confusing

03:18:41.700 --> 03:18:44.010
and so the suggestion was to actually create

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two student expectations out of that content

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that was in A.

03:18:48.930 --> 03:18:51.580
And so that new B that you see there

03:18:51.580 --> 03:18:55.470
was some language that we suggested for clarification.

03:18:57.550 --> 03:18:58.870
Then on page

03:19:01.290 --> 03:19:02.123
five.

03:19:03.930 --> 03:19:05.630
Four C.

03:19:07.060 --> 03:19:10.780
We were recommending some adjustments there

03:19:11.980 --> 03:19:16.490
because it was a little bit confusing, we thought,

03:19:16.490 --> 03:19:20.740
to talk about opportunities that result from challenges.

03:19:20.740 --> 03:19:23.800
And so our suggestion is that you instead

03:19:23.800 --> 03:19:27.390
say that they compare opportunities and challenges.

03:19:28.870 --> 03:19:30.340
And then

03:19:30.340 --> 03:19:34.040
on four H,

03:19:34.040 --> 03:19:36.770
you had quite a bit of conversation about

03:19:36.770 --> 03:19:39.330
soldiers, including the Buffalo Soldiers

03:19:39.330 --> 03:19:41.440
and we knew that there was some desire

03:19:41.440 --> 03:19:44.150
to keep reference to the Buffalo Soldiers.

03:19:44.150 --> 03:19:46.920
But as written, that also seemed a little bit confusing.

03:19:46.920 --> 03:19:47.753
And so

03:19:48.730 --> 03:19:50.020
the suggestion was

03:19:50.020 --> 03:19:52.980
to go ahead and create a separate student expectation

03:19:52.980 --> 03:19:55.620
that is specific to the Buffalo Soldiers.

03:19:55.620 --> 03:19:57.170
So that in one student expectation

03:19:57.170 --> 03:19:59.710
you're addressing African American soldiers

03:19:59.710 --> 03:20:01.710
during and after World War I.

03:20:01.710 --> 03:20:04.610
And in the second, you're addressing the Buffalo Soldiers.

03:20:05.940 --> 03:20:09.150
And then the last one is 10 C

03:20:09.150 --> 03:20:12.390
which is on page nine.

03:20:14.060 --> 03:20:15.910
And again, just to try to

03:20:15.910 --> 03:20:17.760
streamline the language a little bit,

03:20:18.620 --> 03:20:20.560
we think that what you're talking about here

03:20:20.560 --> 03:20:25.060
is contributions of African Americans in leadership roles.

03:20:25.060 --> 03:20:29.190
The civic participation seemed a little bit confusing.

03:20:29.190 --> 03:20:33.210
And then we wanted to make sure that,

03:20:33.210 --> 03:20:35.670
and several of us, including Ms. Perez,

03:20:35.670 --> 03:20:38.780
caught that it should be the US Supreme Court

03:20:38.780 --> 03:20:41.520
and Supreme Court should be capitalized.

03:20:41.520 --> 03:20:42.720
So those were the adjustments

03:20:42.720 --> 03:20:45.570
that we had suggested after we went through

03:20:45.570 --> 03:20:47.770
and looked at the document

03:20:47.770 --> 03:20:49.170
with all of your amendments.

03:20:57.280 --> 03:20:58.520
<v ->So for clarification</v>

03:20:58.520 --> 03:21:00.360
that's the staff recommendations.

03:21:00.360 --> 03:21:01.940
Anything else would be from Ms. Perez.

03:21:01.940 --> 03:21:04.040
So discussion on that, I'll start with Mr. Rowley

03:21:04.040 --> 03:21:04.873
and then Ms. Bahorich.

03:21:04.873 --> 03:21:07.490
<v ->I move we accept the staff changes as,</v>

03:21:08.470 --> 03:21:09.303
as set out.

03:21:12.099 --> 03:21:13.363
<v ->Can we separate those?</v>
<v ->This is</v>

03:21:13.363 --> 03:21:17.204
a point of information.
<v ->Okay, point of information.</v>

03:21:17.204 --> 03:21:18.037
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:21:19.370 --> 03:21:22.210
The staff document, I think, said US Supreme Court.

03:21:22.210 --> 03:21:23.610
That's a fine tooth comb.

03:21:23.610 --> 03:21:24.820
But,
<v ->Right, well--</v>

03:21:24.820 --> 03:21:25.910
<v ->But this one does not.</v>

03:21:25.910 --> 03:21:27.150
I just want...

03:21:27.150 --> 03:21:28.970
We're gonna say US Supreme Court?

03:21:28.970 --> 03:21:30.160
<v Ms. Martinez>Yes, we will add US Supreme Court</v>

03:21:30.160 --> 03:21:31.060
<v ->Okay, all right.</v>

03:21:32.550 --> 03:21:33.650
That's all, thank you.

03:21:37.910 --> 03:21:40.330
<v ->So I'm understanding the cleanest</v>

03:21:40.330 --> 03:21:42.790
as these are all in Ms. Perez's documents.

03:21:42.790 --> 03:21:44.510
There seems to be no objection from there

03:21:44.510 --> 03:21:47.130
as long as Ms. Perez's document goes through

03:21:47.130 --> 03:21:48.670
then we adopt staff,

03:21:48.670 --> 03:21:51.340
'cause they weren't presented to us separately.

03:21:51.340 --> 03:21:54.110
<v Mr. Rowley>Well I have some questions about Ms. Perez's</v>

03:21:54.110 --> 03:21:54.943
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Additions.</v>

03:21:54.943 --> 03:21:56.290
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->It's just that one?</v>

03:21:57.170 --> 03:21:58.840
<v ->Well,</v>
<v ->No, we need to go through.</v>

03:21:58.840 --> 03:22:02.290
<v ->It looks like on page 12 D,</v>

03:22:05.050 --> 03:22:09.110
specific works by these authors are added.

03:22:10.230 --> 03:22:12.470
<v ->Yep.</v>
<v ->That I didn't,</v>

03:22:12.470 --> 03:22:15.740
that I don't think existed before that.

03:22:15.740 --> 03:22:18.280
I mean, it may be fine but I just,

03:22:18.280 --> 03:22:19.560
I don't know if there are other works

03:22:19.560 --> 03:22:20.690
by these particular authors,

03:22:20.690 --> 03:22:22.560
or if those are the ones that,

03:22:22.560 --> 03:22:23.660
the only ones that we want
<v ->Why did you cross</v>

03:22:23.660 --> 03:22:25.790
this through?
<v ->to be included</v>

03:22:25.790 --> 03:22:27.170
<v ->They're the same ones.</v>
<v ->or what?</v>

03:22:27.170 --> 03:22:28.717
<v ->This is,</v>

03:22:28.717 --> 03:22:30.828
I can explain this, okay.

03:22:30.828 --> 03:22:33.980
What happened on the document that you first received

03:22:33.980 --> 03:22:35.480
was that they were in italics.

03:22:36.630 --> 03:22:39.910
And in rule text there are no italics.

03:22:41.210 --> 03:22:44.010
So it is the same content.

03:22:44.010 --> 03:22:45.670
And the italics were removed

03:22:45.670 --> 03:22:48.200
because that's not something we can do.

03:22:48.200 --> 03:22:51.351
And you're looking at letter D on page 12?

03:22:51.351 --> 03:22:53.170
<v ->It's the same books.</v>
<v ->It's the same books.</v>

03:22:53.170 --> 03:22:54.510
We just removed the italics

03:22:54.510 --> 03:22:56.260
because we couldn't get it into rule text.

03:22:56.260 --> 03:22:57.910
That's a--
<v ->When I saw the,</v>

03:22:59.250 --> 03:23:01.090
when I saw the purple,

03:23:01.090 --> 03:23:03.150
I thought that was an addition.

03:23:03.150 --> 03:23:04.550
<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->But it's not.</v>

03:23:04.550 --> 03:23:06.320
<v ->I didn't wanna add a new color coding</v>

03:23:06.320 --> 03:23:07.570
to remove italics.
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:23:07.570 --> 03:23:09.100
<v ->So if you see this,</v>

03:23:09.100 --> 03:23:10.860
like it says the souls of black folk

03:23:10.860 --> 03:23:13.430
and it's stricken and then it's repeated,

03:23:13.430 --> 03:23:15.450
native son is stricken and then repeated.

03:23:15.450 --> 03:23:16.970
<v ->Okay, I got you, okay.</v>

03:23:16.970 --> 03:23:18.480
Good, all right.

03:23:19.620 --> 03:23:21.530
So then I guess the original question was:

03:23:21.530 --> 03:23:26.110
are there any other substantive added changes

03:23:26.110 --> 03:23:28.510
other than the Memphis Sanitation Workers?

03:23:29.580 --> 03:23:30.540
<v ->No, there are not.</v>

03:23:32.280 --> 03:23:33.850
And the reason that,

03:23:33.850 --> 03:23:36.000
and this is the question that

03:23:36.000 --> 03:23:37.170
member Cargill brought up

03:23:37.170 --> 03:23:39.860
on page nine, correct?

03:23:39.860 --> 03:23:43.160
The such as are included only

03:23:44.260 --> 03:23:46.170
so that it's helpful

03:23:46.170 --> 03:23:48.830
to bring it into context.

03:23:48.830 --> 03:23:50.080
But they are such as.

03:23:53.240 --> 03:23:56.647
<v ->Right, I understand the significance, the such as.</v>

03:23:56.647 --> 03:23:58.040
But it is new content.

03:23:59.210 --> 03:24:00.070
And so, who,

03:24:00.070 --> 03:24:01.000
what is the,

03:24:02.130 --> 03:24:05.260
were the Freedom Riders already in 10 A?

03:24:06.810 --> 03:24:07.960
Or is that new as well?

03:24:11.560 --> 03:24:13.020
10 A.
<v ->I think they're in</v>

03:24:13.020 --> 03:24:14.150
our US History.
<v ->They're,</v>

03:24:14.150 --> 03:24:16.700
well they are in the US History course, right.

03:24:16.700 --> 03:24:19.010
<v ->But they weren't in the rule,</v>

03:24:19.010 --> 03:24:20.960
or they weren't in the course as originally proposed.

03:24:20.960 --> 03:24:21.793
Right?

03:24:24.600 --> 03:24:26.740
I'm asking.
<v ->I know, I'm thinking.</v>

03:24:26.740 --> 03:24:28.165
<v ->Oh.</v>
<v ->I'm trying to re--</v>

03:24:28.165 --> 03:24:29.280
<v ->Well, I can look--</v>
<v ->We had six revisions</v>

03:24:29.280 --> 03:24:30.790
this morning.
<v ->I can look at 10 A,</v>

03:24:30.790 --> 03:24:31.990
<v ->They're not.</v>
<v ->right here.</v>

03:24:31.990 --> 03:24:33.320
<v ->No they were not.</v>
<v ->Page five,</v>

03:24:33.320 --> 03:24:35.020
you'll see they, yeah.

03:24:35.020 --> 03:24:37.050
Page five of the rule text is

03:24:38.310 --> 03:24:40.690
the document that reflects

03:24:40.690 --> 03:24:43.930
where it was when you finished your vote

03:24:43.930 --> 03:24:47.230
earlier this week.
<v ->No, the original course</v>

03:24:47.230 --> 03:24:50.540
as it was proposed, they were not in there.

03:24:53.130 --> 03:24:56.320
<v ->Well, after Wednesday's discussion,</v>

03:24:56.320 --> 03:24:58.274
<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->Were they in there then?</v>

03:24:58.274 --> 03:25:00.050
<v ->No.</v>
<v ->Okay, that's what I'm,</v>

03:25:00.050 --> 03:25:02.080
that's all I'm trying to find out is

03:25:02.080 --> 03:25:03.720
what's been added is content.

03:25:03.720 --> 03:25:05.080
Whether it's such as or not.

03:25:05.080 --> 03:25:08.600
So Freedom Riders and the Memphis Sanitation Workers Strike

03:25:08.600 --> 03:25:11.870
is being proposed to be added there as a such as?

03:25:11.870 --> 03:25:12.703
<v Ms. Perez>Right.</v>

03:25:17.420 --> 03:25:19.140
<v ->And forgive me for my lack of history</v>

03:25:19.140 --> 03:25:20.380
I probably should take this course,

03:25:20.380 --> 03:25:23.660
but what is the Memphis Sanitation Workers Strike?

03:25:23.660 --> 03:25:26.050
<v ->That is when Martin Luther King visited</v>

03:25:26.050 --> 03:25:27.650
just before he was assassinated.

03:25:28.764 --> 03:25:30.180
<v Mr. Rowley>Oh, okay, that's where he was?</v>

03:25:30.180 --> 03:25:32.240
<v ->That's where he was, the Lorraine Hotel.</v>

03:25:33.790 --> 03:25:38.210
<v ->That would be an idea of fair wages.</v>

03:25:38.210 --> 03:25:40.910
<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->It was a strike for</v>

03:25:40.910 --> 03:25:43.480
fair wages for the sanitation workers

03:25:43.480 --> 03:25:45.080
in Memphis, Tennessee.

03:25:45.080 --> 03:25:47.030
<v ->The famous signs, "I Am a Man",</v>

03:25:47.030 --> 03:25:48.380
that's where that happened.

03:25:49.403 --> 03:25:52.420
<v ->All right, any other discussions</v>

03:25:52.420 --> 03:25:56.270
on the packet of amendments from Ms. Perez?

03:25:56.270 --> 03:25:57.103
Ms. Cargill.

03:25:59.260 --> 03:26:03.580
<v ->There's a lot of purple on pages 13 and 14.</v>

03:26:07.210 --> 03:26:08.980
Did you just reword what was the--

03:26:08.980 --> 03:26:10.590
Or can you explain that to me real quick?

03:26:10.590 --> 03:26:13.751
<v ->What page?</v>
<v ->13 and 14.</v>

03:26:13.751 --> 03:26:15.020
<v ->So</v>

03:26:15.020 --> 03:26:16.040
this is

03:26:18.100 --> 03:26:21.550
to align to the post-streamlined TEKS

03:26:21.550 --> 03:26:23.910
and the original language was taken

03:26:23.910 --> 03:26:25.970
as the pre-streamlined TEKS.

03:26:30.780 --> 03:26:32.265
That's all that is.

03:26:32.265 --> 03:26:35.410
It's just to--
<v ->That was a mistake.</v>

03:26:35.410 --> 03:26:37.110
<v ->What was a mistake?</v>
<v ->That you,</v>

03:26:38.330 --> 03:26:39.500
<v Dr. Ellis>Microphone please.</v>

03:26:41.640 --> 03:26:42.850
<v ->Oh, I see what you're saying.</v>

03:26:42.850 --> 03:26:43.760
Okay.
<v ->Right.</v>

03:26:43.760 --> 03:26:45.230
<v ->'Cause this wasn't part of the streamlining,</v>

03:26:45.230 --> 03:26:47.020
so you just took the streamlined process skills

03:26:47.020 --> 03:26:48.870
and put them in here.
<v ->It's just a copy and paste</v>

03:26:48.870 --> 03:26:51.770
from the US History course, post streamlining.

03:26:51.770 --> 03:26:53.580
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->And what was in</v>

03:26:53.580 --> 03:26:56.010
the original document was the pre-streamlining.

03:26:56.010 --> 03:26:58.240
This is just bringing us into consistency.

03:26:59.280 --> 03:27:02.940
<v ->I wanna thank Ms. Perez for all this hard work.</v>

03:27:04.542 --> 03:27:05.730
And whoever else,

03:27:05.730 --> 03:27:07.040
I'm sure--
<v ->Well it was all of</v>

03:27:07.040 --> 03:27:08.520
the Dallas ISDs.
<v ->Ms. Davis was in.</v>

03:27:08.520 --> 03:27:10.380
<v ->Aicha and all of her team.</v>

03:27:10.380 --> 03:27:11.840
It was not just me.

03:27:11.840 --> 03:27:13.120
I just happened to be the person

03:27:13.120 --> 03:27:14.720
who uses purple ink.
<v ->Thank you.</v>

03:27:14.720 --> 03:27:15.720
Thank you Ms. Davis.

03:27:17.710 --> 03:27:19.500
<v ->Ms. Perez, you were secretary, is that what you're saying?</v>

03:27:19.500 --> 03:27:21.790
Doing your duties as secretary in that?

03:27:23.480 --> 03:27:24.460
Smile.

03:27:24.460 --> 03:27:25.740
Mr. Rowley.

03:27:25.740 --> 03:27:30.110
<v ->And I too appreciate the work and the input.</v>

03:27:31.250 --> 03:27:34.890
Since it is first reading, I'm okay with this.

03:27:35.780 --> 03:27:37.690
I would raise, I guess,

03:27:37.690 --> 03:27:40.690
a bit of a cautionary note in the sense that

03:27:42.070 --> 03:27:42.903
on Friday,

03:27:43.830 --> 03:27:47.260
after we've had a pretty full and robust discussion

03:27:47.260 --> 03:27:50.470
earlier in the week in the Committee of the Full Board,

03:27:50.470 --> 03:27:53.820
that presenting a document that has,

03:27:53.820 --> 03:27:56.010
this doesn't appear to be significant changes on it.

03:27:56.010 --> 03:27:57.690
But there are changes on this

03:27:57.690 --> 03:28:00.150
and I've read it for the first time today.

03:28:00.150 --> 03:28:01.830
I believe if Ms. Perez was in my shoes

03:28:01.830 --> 03:28:04.500
she would probably voice the same concern

03:28:04.500 --> 03:28:07.200
that I've not had an ample time to study

03:28:07.200 --> 03:28:09.020
what it is I'm adopting here.

03:28:09.020 --> 03:28:10.590
But since it is--
<v ->My apologies.</v>

03:28:10.590 --> 03:28:12.110
<v ->That's all right, I appreciate that.</v>

03:28:12.110 --> 03:28:13.750
But since it is first reading,

03:28:13.750 --> 03:28:14.630
then it's gonna go out,
<v ->Right.</v>

03:28:14.630 --> 03:28:15.810
and it's gonna be discussed

03:28:15.810 --> 03:28:17.150
and we can look at it again.

03:28:17.150 --> 03:28:20.842
But we put operational rules,

03:28:20.842 --> 03:28:22.870
I know that's second reading, other rules

03:28:22.870 --> 03:28:24.980
just to make sure that on,

03:28:24.980 --> 03:28:28.220
we have an ample time to study the proposed changes.

03:28:28.220 --> 03:28:29.860
And so I'm just voicing that.

03:28:29.860 --> 03:28:31.390
But thank you for your work.

03:28:31.390 --> 03:28:33.960
<v ->Ms. Davis.</v>
<v ->I also wanna really</v>

03:28:33.960 --> 03:28:37.050
thank you and Mr. Bush for all that you've done

03:28:37.050 --> 03:28:38.650
to perfect this course.

03:28:38.650 --> 03:28:40.080
And I sincerely apologize

03:28:40.080 --> 03:28:42.940
because those were two really, really important events

03:28:42.940 --> 03:28:45.080
that should have been included from the first draft.

03:28:45.080 --> 03:28:47.300
So, thank you so much for catching that

03:28:47.300 --> 03:28:48.840
and making sure that kids get a chance

03:28:48.840 --> 03:28:50.740
to discuss those two items, thank you.

03:28:53.370 --> 03:28:54.520
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Bahorich.</v>

03:28:55.480 --> 03:28:58.760
<v ->So, just kind of looking at the verbs.</v>

03:28:58.760 --> 03:29:00.480
I mean, we're also,

03:29:02.090 --> 03:29:05.130
like in three E as an example,

03:29:06.060 --> 03:29:07.910
we go from analyze the influence

03:29:07.910 --> 03:29:10.200
to describe the efforts.

03:29:10.200 --> 03:29:14.520
I mean, there's a difference in the way that this,

03:29:14.520 --> 03:29:16.300
it isn't just the verb,

03:29:16.300 --> 03:29:18.270
making it more deep or less deep.

03:29:18.270 --> 03:29:19.420
It's,
<v ->Right.</v>

03:29:19.420 --> 03:29:22.090
<v ->It's a difference in the way that it's gonna be,</v>

03:29:22.090 --> 03:29:23.280
and I,

03:29:23.280 --> 03:29:24.970
I wanna take this very seriously

03:29:24.970 --> 03:29:27.240
and I wanna really spend some time.

03:29:27.240 --> 03:29:30.420
So that, it's not that I disagree with this.

03:29:30.420 --> 03:29:31.460
I would like some more time,

03:29:31.460 --> 03:29:32.890
I guess is what I'm trying to say.

03:29:32.890 --> 03:29:37.070
And I would prefer that we,

03:29:38.660 --> 03:29:41.740
just stick to maybe

03:29:41.740 --> 03:29:43.690
the parts of this that truly were

03:29:43.690 --> 03:29:45.800
just a change in the verb.

03:29:45.800 --> 03:29:46.633
That's the--
<v ->So I will,</v>

03:29:46.633 --> 03:29:48.960
I think Ms. Perez can respond.

03:29:48.960 --> 03:29:51.360
And then if, I think, your comment then

03:29:51.360 --> 03:29:53.800
if it's wanna be in the form of a motion

03:29:53.800 --> 03:29:56.620
then we can do that.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

03:29:56.620 --> 03:29:58.950
Okay, so I guess--
<v ->Would you like Ms. Perez</v>

03:29:58.950 --> 03:30:01.250
to respond to that?
<v ->Yeah, I would actually.</v>

03:30:05.410 --> 03:30:06.320
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Hardy.</v>

03:30:08.060 --> 03:30:10.890
<v ->Since this is what Mr. Rowley talked about</v>

03:30:10.890 --> 03:30:13.220
being first reading,

03:30:13.220 --> 03:30:15.300
that we would be able to

03:30:18.620 --> 03:30:21.860
feel comfortable enough to say yes today to this,

03:30:21.860 --> 03:30:25.270
and then look at it again in the duration

03:30:25.270 --> 03:30:27.520
and come back with any changes we want

03:30:27.520 --> 03:30:29.500
in the second reading.

03:30:29.500 --> 03:30:31.537
<v ->I think that argument applies,</v>

03:30:31.537 --> 03:30:33.000
we're gonna have to put one out there.

03:30:33.000 --> 03:30:33.833
One or the other.

03:30:33.833 --> 03:30:35.220
I think we put our best effort out there

03:30:35.220 --> 03:30:37.040
and let people make comments on that

03:30:37.040 --> 03:30:38.180
and then move from there.

03:30:38.180 --> 03:30:39.630
<v ->But wouldn't that resolve the,</v>

03:30:39.630 --> 03:30:40.463
<v ->Actually, hold on, go ahead.</v>

03:30:40.463 --> 03:30:42.290
<v ->Any confusion like wouldn't it be better</v>

03:30:42.290 --> 03:30:43.820
just to do that right now

03:30:43.820 --> 03:30:46.390
and say, first reading, and then come back with

03:30:47.560 --> 03:30:49.640
any changes we want in the second reading?

03:30:49.640 --> 03:30:51.370
<v ->Well, again, I think that,</v>

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whichever way we end up with today

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is going out for discussion.

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It can be discussed in the public

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in between now and then.

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But when we come back at second reading

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then that's what we'll have to discuss.

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My point is, the best effort needs to be put out today

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for the members to discuss.
<v ->Well maybe I'm saying</v>

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this is our, I think, is our best effort.

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<v ->Okay, Mr. Rowley.</v>

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<v ->The only comment I would have about that is that</v>

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that the changes that are made in this document

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will not be evident on the posting.

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->That's true.</v>

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<v ->So in other words, it's going to go out</v>

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as the purple changes are made.

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It's not gonna go out, assess and discuss.

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It's gonna go out, describe and explain.

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That's the only point about Ms. Hardy's observation

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is that the original language

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will not be there for comment, only the new language.

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And so that doesn't necessarily alleviate

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Ms. Bahorich's question or concern about

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and mine to some extent, about how much time

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we've had to look at this.
<v ->Ms. Hardy.</v>

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<v ->I understand.</v>

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But I was just making the comment that

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in my humble opinion,

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it's been an improvement over what we had.

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And it reads much more smoothly.

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So,

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that's why I think it could be our best effort.

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<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, Ms. Perez, did you have any comments?</v>

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<v ->Okay, so,</v>

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I think maybe everybody is saying

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along the same lines as what member Rowley

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was initially addressing?

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And so while I realize that it does appear

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that there are some substantive changes

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at the Friday meeting.

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The goal behind that is to make sure that

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when it's posted publicly,

03:32:31.800 --> 03:32:34.580
before we get to second reading,

03:32:34.580 --> 03:32:36.580
we are putting our best work forward

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at first reading.

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And so if it is the will of the board

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we'll go over one,

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each document or each revision one at a time

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and have that discussion.

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But my preference is that

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this document, or something very close to it

03:32:54.680 --> 03:32:57.690
goes out for public comment

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now before second reading.

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And that when we come back at second reading

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we don't anticipate substantive changes.

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And before anybody outside of this board

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looks at this and submits a public comment

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they realize how much time and effort from

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several districts went into this.

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And that it was taken very seriously, versus,

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none of these revisions and

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which has the potential to draw some criticism.

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And I'm trying to avoid specifically that.

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<v Mr. Maynard>Have we already passed</v>

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the staff recommendations or no?

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<v ->Yes, we did.</v>
<v ->There are,</v>

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as of now they're just one.

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As of now they're together.
<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v ->So I think that's cleanest to keep them together</v>

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unless this gets convoluted, we can pull those out.

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<v ->Okay--</v>
<v ->But as of now</v>

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they're together.
<v ->Okay.</v>

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And just,

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when the staff

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I mean the staff recommendations are reflected in

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your document as well?
<v ->Yes, sir.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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So it's all.
<v ->If for some reason</v>

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we didn't pass Ms. Perez's

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then I think we'd make sure we do that.

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But as of now, they're all together.

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And we're moving forward with that.

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Ms. Davis.
<v ->And just for</v>

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a point of clarification,

03:34:17.570 --> 03:34:19.470
staff did look at this.

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And staff has agreed to this as well.

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So,

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if we.

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<v ->Okay, I'm gonna call--</v>

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Are you finished,

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then I'm gonna call on Ms. Davis and Ms. Bahorich.

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<v ->I do wanna note also that</v>

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our social studies coordinator from region 13

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also did help with the changes that you see

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in member Perez's document.

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<v ->Ms. Bahorich.</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v ->Microphone please.</v>
<v ->Oh sorry.</v>

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On page five, if you go to four E,

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what's on our document

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that we approved the other day says,

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"Analyze how the rise of Jim Crow laws,

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"affected the life experiences

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"African Americans in the late 19th

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"and early 20th centuries."

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Here it says, "Explain the rise of Jim Crow laws

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"on life experiences of African Americans

03:35:12.000 --> 03:35:14.880
"in the late," I mean, those are not the same.

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And so I'm just,

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I'm just nervous

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'cause I wanna be able to compare these two

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to see if I'm,

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'cause what we approve here is different

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and it's not marked as a change from there

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is all I'm explaining.

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<v Member>What are you (audio drowned out by page turns)</v>

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<v ->If you look at page three of staff's document</v>

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three E, four E, sorry.

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Four E.

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"Analyze how the rise of Jim Crow laws."

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On your document it says,

03:35:48.720 --> 03:35:51.410
"Explain the rise of Jim Crow laws

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"on the life--

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You have one change there

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and that's just from affected to on and that's,

03:35:58.110 --> 03:35:59.610
but that's not how the original one

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that we passed the other day reads.

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If you compare it to staff's document.

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I think that's just my concern.

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I wanna make sure that what I'm looking at here

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is exactly what we passed here

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and then I have changes based on that.

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Because if we pass this as is,

03:36:21.200 --> 03:36:23.260
without analyzing the difference between

03:36:23.260 --> 03:36:24.900
what we did the other day

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and what we're proposing now,

03:36:26.970 --> 03:36:29.130
then I think we're gonna end up

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not being in the same place that we wanted to be.

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I guess that's all I'm trying to say.

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<v ->Mr. Rowley.</v>
<v ->And,</v>

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I would like to divide the question then

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with regard to the staff proposed changes

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as compared to the other changes.

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<v Member>Okay.</v>

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(members speaking indistinctly)

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<v ->Mr. Chairman, with your permission.</v>

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I'm going to have a challenge presenting this

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because the document that I've got

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with the colors in it and everything

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is a PDF and my PDF software crashed

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just as the meeting started this morning.

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So I can't convert it to Word.

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<v ->Well, that's all right.</v>
<v ->And that's okay.</v>

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I do have the staff's document.

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And I can go in and make these changes

03:37:30.002 --> 03:37:31.302
so that you can view them.

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<v ->Oh, I withdraw my request.</v>
<v ->No, I think</v>

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it's a reasonable request.

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<v ->Mr. Chairman.</v>
<v ->Mr. Maynard.</v>

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<v ->Does the author of the amendments have the</v>

03:37:45.090 --> 03:37:47.879
the Word version that can be?
<v ->She does not.</v>

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She used a Macintosh

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she uses Pages and.
<v ->Oh.</v>

03:37:51.908 --> 03:37:54.588
One of those Mac-people, okay.

03:37:54.588 --> 03:37:58.588
(members speaking indistinctly)

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<v ->How about a 10-minute break?</v>

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I think I've kept you all,

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y'all haven't even mutinied on me yet.

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So y'all done quite well.

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So let's take a quick break

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and allow Ms. Kay to do a little work.

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And...