WEBVTT 00:00:02.890 --> 00:00:03.940 All right. 00:00:04.900 --> 00:00:07.730 So thank you guys, everyone for joining. 00:00:07.730 --> 00:00:12.730 We're about to start the Brownfields in Texas webinar. 00:00:13.230 --> 00:00:16.573 I hope everyone can hear us right now. 00:00:17.830 --> 00:00:22.830 So this is the first, hopefully many more webinars 00:00:23.420 --> 00:00:25.613 that both the Railroad Commission and TCEQ 00:00:25.613 --> 00:00:29.630 will be bringing you over the next couple of years. 00:00:29.630 --> 00:00:31.590 This is the Railroad Commission and TCEQ's 00:00:31.590 --> 00:00:36.530 first ever joint presentation via a webinar. 00:00:36.530 --> 00:00:40.890 And so today we're gonna talk about brownfields in Texas. 00:00:40.890 --> 00:00:45.420 And we're gonna talk about how the Brownfields Program, 00:00:45.420 --> 00:00:47.630 both with the Railroad Commission and TCEQ 00:00:47.630 --> 00:00:52.420 can help your community redevelop and revitalize 00:00:52.420 --> 00:00:54.640 these brownfield sites. 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.173 So without further ado we'll get started. 00:01:04.410 --> 00:01:08.900 That is this, my computer will go to the next screen. 00:01:08.900 --> 00:01:13.450 Okay, so before we dive into all the details 00:01:13.450 --> 00:01:17.260 we figured we'd give you guys a face to the voice 00:01:17.260 --> 00:01:19.210 that you're gonna be hearing today. 00:01:19.210 --> 00:01:23.410 So me, I am Leslie Bruce, I'm the voluntary cleanup 00:01:23.410 --> 00:01:25.110 and Brownfields Program coordinator 00:01:25.110 --> 00:01:26.750 for the Railroad Commission. 00:01:26.750 --> 00:01:31.140 I received a BS in geology from University of South Carolina 00:01:31.140 --> 00:01:34.520 and an MS in geology from UT Austin. 00:01:34.520 --> 00:01:38.250 I've been with the Railroad Commission since 2017. 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:41.860 And I've worked in two different groups before I took over 00:01:41.860 --> 00:01:46.860 as the VCP Brownfields coordinator in April 2019. 00:01:46.860 --> 00:01:49.970 And then now I'm gonna turn it over to Phylicia Allen 00:01:49.970 --> 00:01:51.863 to introduce herself. 00:01:54.630 --> 00:01:56.890 Hi everyone, I'm Phylicia Allen, 00:01:56.890 --> 00:02:01.700 I'm the TCEQ Brownfields Program coordinator. 00:02:01.700 --> 00:02:04.330 I received my bachelor's degree 00:02:04.330 --> 00:02:06.930 from Southwestern College in Kansas. 00:02:06.930 --> 00:02:11.750 I attended Texas State University to receive my masters 00:02:11.750 --> 00:02:13.260 in aquatic resources. 00:02:13.260 --> 00:02:18.260 I've been at TCEQ since December 2012, 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.400 and I have been a super fun project manager, 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:24.670 Brownfields project manager, 00:02:24.670 --> 00:02:27.463 and just recently became the program coordinator. 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:30.233 Awesome. 00:02:30.233 --> 00:02:34.330 Thank you Phylicia, and then, so we also have two panelists 00:02:34.330 --> 00:02:35.320 with us today. 00:02:35.320 --> 00:02:38.240 So the first panelist is gonna be Peter Pope, 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.820 who's my supervisor within site remediation. 00:02:42.820 --> 00:02:44.800 And then also Kristy Livingston, 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:48.960 who is Phylicia's supervisor with TCEQ. 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.223 So I'll let Peter introduce himself first. 00:02:55.110 --> 00:02:56.803 Good afternoon everybody. 00:02:58.570 --> 00:03:00.920 Leslie your introduction was just fine. 00:03:00.920 --> 00:03:03.730 I will be, at the end of the presentation 00:03:03.730 --> 00:03:07.170 I will be moderating some of the question 00:03:07.170 --> 00:03:09.580 and answer session. 00:03:09.580 --> 00:03:14.200 So I look forward to receiving your questions 00:03:14.200 --> 00:03:15.250 throughout this talk. 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:16.953 Thank you. 00:03:16.953 --> 00:03:18.140 Thank you Peter. 00:03:18.140 --> 00:03:19.713 And then Kristy. 00:03:22.740 --> 00:03:25.220 Thanks Leslie, this is Kristy Livingston, 00:03:25.220 --> 00:03:26.620 I'm with the TCEQ. 00:03:30.070 --> 00:03:33.410 Right now I'm the super team leader, 00:03:33.410 --> 00:03:36.970 but prior to that I was the Brownfields Program manager 00:03:36.970 --> 00:03:38.950 for about seven years. 00:03:38.950 --> 00:03:42.120 I've been at the TCEQ for 15 years, 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.730 and also did some private consulting in environmental world 00:03:45.730 --> 00:03:47.350 for about seven years. 00:03:47.350 --> 00:03:51.080 And I'm here just, as the panelist and for questions 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.097 at the end, and then of course, anytime after this webinar, 00:03:54.097 --> 00:03:57.710 if you have questions feel free to reach out as well. 00:03:57.710 --> 00:03:58.543 Thank you. 00:03:59.660 --> 00:04:00.840 Thank you Kristy. 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.840 All right, so today's agenda as kind of I mentioned earlier, 00:04:05.910 --> 00:04:07.750 this is a joint presentation 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:10.510 between the Railroad Commission and TCEQ. 00:04:10.510 --> 00:04:12.210 For the first 30 minutes we're gonna have 00:04:12.210 --> 00:04:14.360 the Railroad Commission's presentation, 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:15.530 and then that's gonna be followed 00:04:15.530 --> 00:04:18.060 by the TCEQ's presentation. 00:04:18.060 --> 00:04:22.193 And so for the Railroad Commission's we're gonna focus on, 00:04:22.193 --> 00:04:26.210 just kind of a broad definition of what a Brownfield is, 00:04:26.210 --> 00:04:28.480 and then what the Brownfields Program is. 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.580 We're also gonna go over Railroad Commission's jurisdiction, 00:04:31.580 --> 00:04:35.260 especially this being a joint presentation. 00:04:35.260 --> 00:04:37.660 So you can kind of figure out if your site belongs 00:04:37.660 --> 00:04:39.970 in our program or TCEQ's. 00:04:39.970 --> 00:04:43.830 We'll go over the eligibility both for the applicant 00:04:43.830 --> 00:04:47.120 and the property, and then how to apply, 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:49.680 and then once you've applied what to expect. 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:51.250 And then at the end we're gonna follow it up 00:04:51.250 --> 00:04:53.890 with some examples of some successful 00:04:53.890 --> 00:04:57.060 or ongoing sites within the Brownfield, 00:04:57.060 --> 00:04:59.330 within the Railroad Commission Brownfield. 00:04:59.330 --> 00:05:01.550 So I'll turn over to Phylicia 00:05:01.550 --> 00:05:04.593 for an overview of their agenda. 00:05:06.894 --> 00:05:08.550 Exactly. 00:05:08.550 --> 00:05:12.230 Yeah, we're gonna go over some similarities and differences 00:05:12.230 --> 00:05:13.350 between our programs. 00:05:13.350 --> 00:05:15.840 We'll talk about what kind of reiterate, 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:17.040 what is a brownfield? 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.320 We'll talk about what a brownfield site 00:05:19.320 --> 00:05:21.330 might look like in your community. 00:05:21.330 --> 00:05:25.860 How is the TCEQ program process works? 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:29.053 We'll discuss site assessments and site activities. 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:33.820 And then we'll get into next steps in planning 00:05:33.820 --> 00:05:35.340 and kind of go over some examples 00:05:35.340 --> 00:05:36.740 that we have in the program. 00:05:38.650 --> 00:05:39.483 Awesome. 00:05:39.483 --> 00:05:40.880 Thank you Phylicia. 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:44.470 All right, so last thing before we start 00:05:44.470 --> 00:05:48.220 is that if you have questions during the webinar, 00:05:48.220 --> 00:05:52.980 to submit them via email to SR-VCP-BRP@rrc.texas.gov. 00:05:56.860 --> 00:05:59.900 So Peter Pope will be watching that email address 00:05:59.900 --> 00:06:04.400 and he'll read out the questions once we get to the end. 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:05.360 Hopefully we'll have about, 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.490 maybe five or so minutes to go over those. 00:06:08.490 --> 00:06:11.550 If you don't write all that email address down 00:06:11.550 --> 00:06:13.930 immediately right now don't worry, it's gonna follow 00:06:13.930 --> 00:06:16.600 throughout the slides as a reminder. 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.170 And then any questions we don't get to today 00:06:19.170 --> 00:06:21.100 we'll send you a follow up email. 00:06:21.100 --> 00:06:23.650 So don't worry, we're gonna answer all your questions. 00:06:23.650 --> 00:06:27.293 It just might not be during this live stream of the webinar. 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:30.073 Okay. 00:06:31.370 --> 00:06:33.773 So what is a brownfield? 00:06:34.950 --> 00:06:37.520 A brownfield is a property that's redevelopment 00:06:37.520 --> 00:06:40.490 or reuse is hindered by the presence 00:06:40.490 --> 00:06:43.350 or potential presence of contamination. 00:06:43.350 --> 00:06:44.500 And there it's really important 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:47.720 to focus on presence or potential presence. 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.330 So you might not know if there's contamination. 00:06:50.330 --> 00:06:53.620 And that could be what's kind of limiting 00:06:55.090 --> 00:06:56.710 redevelopment of that property. 00:06:56.710 --> 00:07:00.370 And so these brownfields are typically gonna be eyesores 00:07:00.370 --> 00:07:02.850 in your community, they've probably been there 00:07:02.850 --> 00:07:04.820 for a long time, and the reason 00:07:04.820 --> 00:07:06.290 why they've probably been there for a long time 00:07:06.290 --> 00:07:08.550 is because there's a potential hazard 00:07:08.550 --> 00:07:12.050 or potential contamination, which has made it, so the city 00:07:12.050 --> 00:07:14.140 or any private developers just don't really wanna 00:07:14.140 --> 00:07:16.540 take it on, don't want to deal with that liability 00:07:16.540 --> 00:07:18.240 or anything like that. 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:22.290 And so what the Brownfields Program is, 00:07:22.290 --> 00:07:25.040 is a grant funded program that provides 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.230 free site assessments and the Railroad Commission 00:07:28.230 --> 00:07:32.040 case cleanups of those brownfields properties. 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:36.130 And so we're gonna provide that service 00:07:36.130 --> 00:07:38.910 for local government entities, 00:07:38.910 --> 00:07:42.430 nonprofit economic development groups, 00:07:42.430 --> 00:07:46.333 universities and schools and Federally Recognized Tribes. 00:07:47.210 --> 00:07:52.210 And then, this last one we really don't have many of them, 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.840 but there are cases where we will accept private landowners 00:07:56.840 --> 00:07:58.950 with the community support. 00:07:58.950 --> 00:08:01.370 But there I think it's important that the community 00:08:01.370 --> 00:08:03.410 is going to be the applicant, 00:08:03.410 --> 00:08:06.380 and they're applying on behalf of that private landowner 00:08:06.380 --> 00:08:08.120 or even private developer. 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.233 And there has to be some sort of community support there. 00:08:12.760 --> 00:08:14.200 All right. 00:08:14.200 --> 00:08:16.713 And so why is this program important? 00:08:18.190 --> 00:08:21.563 What should you take away from this at the end? 00:08:22.570 --> 00:08:27.210 So this program, it really, when you investigate 00:08:27.210 --> 00:08:31.380 and remediate these sites, and get them to the point 00:08:31.380 --> 00:08:34.183 where you can actually start developing them, 00:08:35.040 --> 00:08:38.910 you're going to increase your tax base in that area. 00:08:38.910 --> 00:08:42.000 You're gonna create potentially new jobs with that. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:43.330 And you're gonna kick start 00:08:43.330 --> 00:08:47.030 some other community revitalization activities. 00:08:47.030 --> 00:08:50.380 All by just kind of tackling that one bad site 00:08:50.380 --> 00:08:52.130 that's been an eyesore for years, 00:08:52.130 --> 00:08:55.790 and it had contamination and it was potentially causing 00:08:55.790 --> 00:08:58.360 the entire area just not to be redeveloped. 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.310 So there's big incentives to be part of this program, 00:09:01.310 --> 00:09:05.703 and to help your community by going through this. 00:09:07.870 --> 00:09:10.850 So program eligibility. 00:09:10.850 --> 00:09:13.960 So this is kind of a really important part. 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:15.240 You need to be a qualified applicant. 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.750 That's what we previously talked about. 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:21.750 So that's gonna be your local government entities, 00:09:21.750 --> 00:09:26.750 universities, schools, economic development groups. 00:09:26.890 --> 00:09:29.640 And then you need a redevelopment plan. 00:09:29.640 --> 00:09:32.300 The redevelopment plan, you don't have to stick strictly 00:09:32.300 --> 00:09:34.440 to it, but you need to have some idea 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.670 of what you're gonna do with the property afterwards. 00:09:36.670 --> 00:09:39.620 And it should have some sort of community benefit, 00:09:39.620 --> 00:09:42.573 whether that's creation of jobs, green space, 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:45.723 increased tax revenues, things like that. 00:09:47.760 --> 00:09:50.560 And so then for the Railroad Commission, 00:09:50.560 --> 00:09:52.920 for the property to be eligible, 00:09:52.920 --> 00:09:55.763 the oil and gas operations on that property 00:09:55.763 --> 00:09:59.410 need to be abandoned, and there cannot be a responsible 00:09:59.410 --> 00:10:01.320 party for clean up. 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:04.030 But here I think it's also important to know 00:10:04.030 --> 00:10:06.250 that the Railroad Commission will not hold 00:10:06.250 --> 00:10:09.330 innocent landowners responsible for cleanup. 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:12.130 So don't let that kind of be an issue 00:10:12.130 --> 00:10:13.753 for bringing the site to us. 00:10:14.730 --> 00:10:16.980 Also there can be unresolved federal 00:10:16.980 --> 00:10:19.063 or state enforcement on the property. 00:10:20.070 --> 00:10:24.250 And then the applicant and landowner agree to cooperate 00:10:24.250 --> 00:10:25.910 with the Railroad Commission. 00:10:25.910 --> 00:10:28.590 And here I think it's important to point out 00:10:28.590 --> 00:10:31.730 you don't have to be the landowner to be the applicant 00:10:31.730 --> 00:10:33.370 and go through this program. 00:10:33.370 --> 00:10:37.120 You could potentially be purchasing the property in a couple 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.493 of years or have some other plans. 00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:45.670 But you just have to have the landowners permission 00:10:45.670 --> 00:10:48.680 to kind of enter this property, for the Railroad Commission 00:10:48.680 --> 00:10:50.423 to go on and do the assessments. 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.900 And so since this is a presentation between 00:10:56.900 --> 00:10:58.700 both the Railroad Commission and TCEQ, 00:10:58.700 --> 00:11:01.600 I think it's important to point out jurisdiction here, 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.170 so you know which program you should be applying to. 00:11:05.170 --> 00:11:06.410 And so for the Railroad Commission, 00:11:06.410 --> 00:11:09.990 our jurisdiction is gonna be over oil and gas exploration 00:11:09.990 --> 00:11:13.850 and production, transportation of oil, gas 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:18.390 and liquefied natural gas pipeline, natural gas processing, 00:11:18.390 --> 00:11:23.390 salt film cavern storage, prime mining of oil, gas and LNG, 00:11:25.390 --> 00:11:27.140 bulk storage of crude oil, 00:11:27.140 --> 00:11:29.143 and then commercial disposal facilities. 00:11:31.410 --> 00:11:32.850 And if you want more information 00:11:32.850 --> 00:11:35.530 on kind of the jurisdictional divide 00:11:35.530 --> 00:11:37.830 between the Railroad Commission and TCEQ, 00:11:37.830 --> 00:11:41.200 I would suggest looking at the memorandum of understanding 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.690 between the two agencies. 00:11:43.690 --> 00:11:46.180 So that's gonna go into some more detail, 00:11:46.180 --> 00:11:51.180 that can be found at 16, Texas Administrative Code, 3.30. 00:11:51.810 --> 00:11:53.530 But I think it's also important to note 00:11:53.530 --> 00:11:57.300 that the Railroads Commission and TCEQ work very closely 00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:59.103 with each other on certain sites. 00:12:00.180 --> 00:12:02.070 And we've been doing it for years 00:12:02.070 --> 00:12:03.520 and have good communication. 00:12:03.520 --> 00:12:08.040 So it could be a joint effort, or it could be, you know, 00:12:08.040 --> 00:12:11.760 you might think it's an RRC, but we can easily direct you 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:13.653 to TCEQ if need be. 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:20.180 Okay, so for the Railroad Commission 00:12:20.180 --> 00:12:22.393 determining property eligibility, 00:12:23.410 --> 00:12:25.340 you might not know how to kind of go 00:12:25.340 --> 00:12:28.130 about this to figure out if you do have abandoned oil 00:12:28.130 --> 00:12:32.670 and gas property, oil and gas activities on your property. 00:12:32.670 --> 00:12:35.800 And so here we're gonna go through three helpful tips 00:12:35.800 --> 00:12:38.880 to help you determine this, and whether or not your site 00:12:38.880 --> 00:12:40.340 might qualify specifically 00:12:40.340 --> 00:12:43.303 for the Railroad Commission's Brownfields Program. 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.880 So tip number one, I would suggest checking out 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:55.610 our public GIS viewer, the website is listed here. 00:12:55.610 --> 00:12:58.830 And also, just so everyone knows this PowerPoint will, 00:12:58.830 --> 00:13:00.280 it can be made public. 00:13:00.280 --> 00:13:02.770 If you'd like a copy just let us know. 00:13:02.770 --> 00:13:06.590 But our public GIS viewer is on our website. 00:13:06.590 --> 00:13:10.773 And when you load it you'll notice in this image there's, 00:13:12.300 --> 00:13:16.840 at the top right hand corner of the GIS viewer 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:19.210 there's a little search bar, 00:13:19.210 --> 00:13:21.360 and you can type in your address there. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.780 And so I'd really highly suggest everyone 00:13:23.780 --> 00:13:27.680 type in your address, the wells, 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:30.480 wells are always automatically loaded. 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.840 And so all of these green dots, the red dots, 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.720 some of these hollow, blue outline dots, 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.930 those are all representing either plugged 00:13:40.930 --> 00:13:43.830 or active oil and gas wells. 00:13:43.830 --> 00:13:46.260 So you can type in your address and see if you have 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:50.100 any of that, any wells on your property. 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:54.050 And that's one clue of you might potentially be qualified 00:13:54.050 --> 00:13:55.483 for our program. 00:14:00.070 --> 00:14:04.430 So tip number two, take a tour of your property. 00:14:04.430 --> 00:14:09.210 So just because you might not have an oil well, 00:14:09.210 --> 00:14:14.210 or gas well plotted on your property per the GIS viewer, 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.760 that doesn't necessarily mean that there are other oil 00:14:18.760 --> 00:14:21.070 and gas activities on the property 00:14:21.070 --> 00:14:23.283 either currently or historically. 00:14:24.380 --> 00:14:28.670 So one thing you can do this with is again, 00:14:28.670 --> 00:14:30.990 take a tour of the property, look out for things 00:14:30.990 --> 00:14:35.990 like oil drums, disposal pits, pump jacks, tanks, 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:41.850 well heads, and then dead and distressed vegetation. 00:14:41.850 --> 00:14:46.850 So this is an image of a produce water release 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:49.810 that killed vegetation area. 00:14:49.810 --> 00:14:53.030 And so what this photo is, is actually a neighboring 00:14:53.030 --> 00:14:56.040 property had oil and gas activity on it, 00:14:56.040 --> 00:14:57.490 and they had a release, 00:14:57.490 --> 00:15:00.760 and it migrated onto the desert property. 00:15:00.760 --> 00:15:05.270 So that can happen where there's actually no oil and gas 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:07.140 activity on your specific property. 00:15:07.140 --> 00:15:10.650 But next door there was a potential release 00:15:10.650 --> 00:15:13.290 that could have impacted your property. 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:15.500 So that's kind of a unique situation, 00:15:15.500 --> 00:15:16.683 but it is possible. 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.810 So tip number three would be determine 00:15:22.810 --> 00:15:26.390 if the operations are abandoned. 00:15:26.390 --> 00:15:28.730 So this is really tricky. 00:15:28.730 --> 00:15:33.190 And in all honesty it's more of a legal review of the lease. 00:15:33.190 --> 00:15:38.090 It's not necessarily a, you know, what condition 00:15:38.090 --> 00:15:40.570 is the operations on the site? 00:15:40.570 --> 00:15:42.180 Is it really rusty and things like that. 00:15:42.180 --> 00:15:43.630 That's not the best indicator 00:15:43.630 --> 00:15:45.380 of whether or not it's abandoned, 00:15:45.380 --> 00:15:47.963 or whether or not there's a responsible operator. 00:15:49.070 --> 00:15:53.450 Here we're gonna, here you really need to do a legal review 00:15:53.450 --> 00:15:54.840 of that lease. 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.020 And the best thing to help you out with that is just give us 00:15:58.020 --> 00:16:01.210 a call, give me a call, I will look at our mainframe 00:16:01.210 --> 00:16:04.380 and hunt that information down for you, 00:16:04.380 --> 00:16:05.963 and to help figure it out. 00:16:09.660 --> 00:16:14.350 Okay, so let's talk about what to expect. 00:16:14.350 --> 00:16:16.813 Let's say you've applied to the program, 00:16:17.790 --> 00:16:20.973 and just so everyone knows our application is online. 00:16:21.870 --> 00:16:24.850 You can go onto our website, download it, 00:16:24.850 --> 00:16:26.300 and you'll have to fill it out by hand 00:16:26.300 --> 00:16:29.270 and mail in the application. 00:16:29.270 --> 00:16:33.100 Let's say you've done all of that, and you've been approved, 00:16:33.100 --> 00:16:36.370 now what will happen is that the Railroad Commission 00:16:36.370 --> 00:16:38.350 kind of takes over at this point. 00:16:38.350 --> 00:16:41.290 And we have contracted engineer, 00:16:41.290 --> 00:16:44.120 environmental engineering firms that will send out, 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.510 and we'll do an initial phase one assessment. 00:16:47.510 --> 00:16:52.430 And so if anyone is not familiar with phase one, 00:16:52.430 --> 00:16:57.430 essentially what that is a records review of a property. 00:16:58.410 --> 00:17:03.400 And so they'll go through various databases, 00:17:03.400 --> 00:17:06.710 and kind of see what historical operations are at the site, 00:17:06.710 --> 00:17:09.367 and review various people familiar with it, 00:17:09.367 --> 00:17:11.740 and just see if there's anything on there 00:17:11.740 --> 00:17:14.153 that could have caused contamination. 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.370 And then if we do find any past activities on the site 00:17:18.370 --> 00:17:20.260 that could have caused contamination, 00:17:20.260 --> 00:17:23.860 we'll move to a phase two and put in some soil borings, 00:17:23.860 --> 00:17:27.490 maybe even some monitoring wells, 00:17:27.490 --> 00:17:32.003 and then see kind of what is at the site. 00:17:32.980 --> 00:17:34.790 And then based on the results of the phase two 00:17:34.790 --> 00:17:38.400 we might move to remediation and cleanup as needed. 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:39.940 And here I think it's important to point out 00:17:39.940 --> 00:17:42.560 the Railroad Commission is able to provide you guys 00:17:42.560 --> 00:17:46.093 with remediation and cleanup at sites. 00:17:47.020 --> 00:17:49.270 And then based on that, if we do the remediation 00:17:49.270 --> 00:17:52.250 and cleanup we would move to certificate of completion 00:17:52.250 --> 00:17:55.210 at that point, and then you would have successfully 00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:56.763 completed the program. 00:17:59.030 --> 00:18:02.240 Okay, and so now we're gonna go through 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.180 and look at some brownfields examples. 00:18:06.180 --> 00:18:08.540 Some of these have already successfully 00:18:08.540 --> 00:18:12.750 completed the program, a few are still within the program, 00:18:12.750 --> 00:18:15.440 but they're great examples 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.293 of redevelopment throughout Texas. 00:18:25.410 --> 00:18:28.130 Okay, so our first one we're gonna go over 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:31.170 is this beautiful bird viewing Park and hiking trails 00:18:31.170 --> 00:18:32.423 in Andrews, Texas. 00:18:33.300 --> 00:18:36.930 So this is like 30 minutes north of midland. 00:18:36.930 --> 00:18:39.163 For anyone who's not familiar with Andrews. 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:44.660 And here are some great before and after photos. 00:18:44.660 --> 00:18:49.660 And so on the left here we have a salt water disposal pit 00:18:50.660 --> 00:18:52.940 that, well this is, I'm not sure 00:18:52.940 --> 00:18:55.380 if it's salt water disposal pit, but it's a disposal pit 00:18:55.380 --> 00:18:59.820 that has what appears to be products in the pit. 00:18:59.820 --> 00:19:02.550 And then on the bottom we also have 00:19:02.550 --> 00:19:06.087 five wooden tank batteries with product, 00:19:08.110 --> 00:19:11.320 what appears to be product leaking out of them. 00:19:11.320 --> 00:19:15.190 And then in the after picture we have the site 00:19:15.190 --> 00:19:19.030 a couple years later after the applicant successfully 00:19:19.030 --> 00:19:21.310 completed the Brownfields Program, 00:19:21.310 --> 00:19:25.590 and then also received funding from Texas Parks and Wildlife 00:19:25.590 --> 00:19:29.323 to restore this area and put in these trails, 00:19:30.330 --> 00:19:33.963 and all their boardwalks and birdhouses. 00:19:36.600 --> 00:19:41.380 So the investigations that occurred at the site. 00:19:41.380 --> 00:19:45.093 We got the application in 2000, 2003, 2004, 00:19:46.970 --> 00:19:48.620 and we immediately started working 00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:51.020 on phase one and phase two. 00:19:51.020 --> 00:19:55.120 Obviously we found as mentioned the leaking loading tanks 00:19:55.120 --> 00:19:56.453 and the disposal pit. 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:01.500 We gauged and sampled the tanks to determine 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:04.860 what was in them and how much product was remaining. 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:08.170 We removed that product and disposed of it. 00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:12.240 We also collected soil samples and installed temporary 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.410 monitoring walls throughout the site. 00:20:15.410 --> 00:20:18.690 We also conducted a naturally occurring 00:20:18.690 --> 00:20:21.113 radiation monitors survey. 00:20:22.190 --> 00:20:25.203 And so that was kind of based on the age of the tanks. 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.280 Based on that NORM survey we found one of the tanks 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:30.820 did have NORM. 00:20:30.820 --> 00:20:34.210 And so one cool thing about this site, 00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:37.130 the city of Andrews and a local company actually helped us 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:39.660 dispose of all the tanks on the site, 00:20:39.660 --> 00:20:43.530 including the NORM tank that needed special disposal. 00:20:43.530 --> 00:20:45.860 So that was, I think it ended up saving 00:20:45.860 --> 00:20:49.283 the Commission around $7,500, which was great. 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:55.950 And then based on the soil samples we collected at the site 00:20:55.950 --> 00:20:59.550 we found some impacted soils around the tanks and pits. 00:20:59.550 --> 00:21:02.450 And so we excavated soils in that area 00:21:02.450 --> 00:21:03.700 and disposed of them off. 00:21:04.713 --> 00:21:07.396 And then in 2006 the city managers received 00:21:07.396 --> 00:21:10.896 a certificate of completion for this site. 00:21:13.292 --> 00:21:15.570 So this one, I like to start out with this one, 00:21:15.570 --> 00:21:20.570 because it's really great example of using this brownfields 00:21:22.370 --> 00:21:26.690 funding for a very large redevelopment. 00:21:26.690 --> 00:21:30.980 And so in the picture above the aerial image 00:21:30.980 --> 00:21:35.980 we have a small black, a small red square, 00:21:36.601 --> 00:21:40.300 that is the actual four acres brownfield site. 00:21:40.300 --> 00:21:44.130 So that is where we did our environmental investigations. 00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:45.673 That was the oil and gas leak. 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:51.800 But here you see also that is within a much larger red box. 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.390 And that is about 120 acres. 00:21:54.390 --> 00:21:58.300 And that is actually an old water treatment facility. 00:21:58.300 --> 00:22:02.380 And so the city of Andrews wanted this site 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:04.610 to be turned into a bird viewing Park, 00:22:04.610 --> 00:22:07.900 because apparently there's, so there's the sedimentation 00:22:07.900 --> 00:22:10.590 lagoons that are part of the water treatment facility 00:22:10.590 --> 00:22:13.000 that have really high organic content 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.630 that support wildlife and vegetation. 00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:20.550 And the city of Andrews is also in this area that receives 00:22:20.550 --> 00:22:24.760 more than 30 bird species kind of flying over it. 00:22:24.760 --> 00:22:28.423 So you see tones of different birds in this area. 00:22:30.620 --> 00:22:35.120 And then as previously stated once the city of Andrews 00:22:35.120 --> 00:22:37.770 had successfully completed Railroads the Commission's 00:22:37.770 --> 00:22:41.360 Brownfields Program, they received grant funds 00:22:41.360 --> 00:22:43.630 from Texas Parks and Wildlife 00:22:43.630 --> 00:22:46.970 to develop those hiking trails and boardwalk. 00:22:46.970 --> 00:22:48.790 They have a beautiful boardwalk that looks out 00:22:48.790 --> 00:22:52.870 over these sedimentation lagoons with really nice scopes, 00:22:52.870 --> 00:22:56.443 just in case you forgot your binoculars at home. 00:22:59.010 --> 00:23:02.260 But the other really great part about this redevelopment 00:23:02.260 --> 00:23:07.137 plan is that this brownfield site was actually next to, 00:23:07.137 --> 00:23:10.870 it's an 80 acre property that the city of Andrews 00:23:10.870 --> 00:23:13.793 has recently developed into a sports complex. 00:23:15.701 --> 00:23:18.273 And this is in an area of the city of Andrews, 00:23:18.273 --> 00:23:22.030 it's kind of like selfies on sort of the outskirts 00:23:22.030 --> 00:23:26.220 of the city that previously just wasn't being utilized, 00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:28.950 there wasn't much to do in that area. 00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:32.127 And this has brought a tone of interest to this area, 00:23:32.127 --> 00:23:36.063 and is really kick-starting revitalization around here. 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:42.340 Alright, so the next example. 00:23:42.340 --> 00:23:47.100 So this is actually, these are, it's gonna be an example 00:23:47.100 --> 00:23:49.560 with four redevelopment projects, 00:23:49.560 --> 00:23:52.740 two of which are Brownfield projects. 00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:57.620 So this is Nueces County in in Robstown, Texas. 00:23:57.620 --> 00:24:02.620 And the brownfields portion of this area is 67.5 acres. 00:24:06.220 --> 00:24:11.220 So prior to 2002 when Nueces County 00:24:12.532 --> 00:24:15.920 was starting to develop this property. 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.300 It was undeveloped agricultural land 00:24:18.300 --> 00:24:21.203 that was previously used for oil and gas production. 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:28.530 And so here, this is the same image you see on the left, 00:24:28.530 --> 00:24:30.900 but just from our GIS viewer. 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:34.030 And you can see here that there was a lot of oil and gas 00:24:34.030 --> 00:24:38.693 activity in the area at one point in time. 00:24:39.570 --> 00:24:41.687 And so a lot of these wells have been plugged 00:24:41.687 --> 00:24:42.883 and abandoned though. 00:24:47.840 --> 00:24:50.000 Okay, so as I mentioned this is four 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.440 different redevelopment projects. 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:53.990 This was between 2002 and 2017. 00:24:55.830 --> 00:25:00.180 So we have a baseball stadium that was put in 2002, 00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:02.530 fairgrounds in 2008, and outlet mall, 00:25:02.530 --> 00:25:05.840 which is a brownfield in 2017. 00:25:05.840 --> 00:25:08.290 And then this water quality improvement project 00:25:08.290 --> 00:25:13.290 that's kind of up in the upper right corner. 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.320 And I think here it's important to point out that the city 00:25:16.320 --> 00:25:19.660 of Nueces County actually did their own environmental 00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:23.210 investigation of this entire huge property 00:25:23.210 --> 00:25:25.630 with all four of these redevelopment plans. 00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:28.520 And the two areas where they found, 00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:31.900 that needed investigations were actually at the outlet mall 00:25:31.900 --> 00:25:34.200 and the water quality improvement. 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:37.210 Nueces County was actually gonna fund the cleanup 00:25:37.210 --> 00:25:40.250 at those two sites before they realized 00:25:40.250 --> 00:25:42.430 that the Railroad Commission had funds 00:25:42.430 --> 00:25:44.550 that were available to them. 00:25:44.550 --> 00:25:48.040 So they were able to go ahead and develop 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:50.670 the baseball stadium and fairgrounds 00:25:50.670 --> 00:25:53.610 while also being entered into the program 00:25:53.610 --> 00:25:57.983 for these two other sites. 00:26:01.150 --> 00:26:02.610 So here's just kind of a progression 00:26:02.610 --> 00:26:06.507 from 2014 to 2017 of this site. 00:26:06.507 --> 00:26:07.940 And you can just see over the years 00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:12.940 it's really developed into a gray area, 00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:15.803 and has brought a lot of amenities to that area. 00:26:18.280 --> 00:26:21.110 So this site entered in 2005, 00:26:21.110 --> 00:26:22.840 we did a phase one and phase two. 00:26:22.840 --> 00:26:25.630 We found a plugged oil and gas wells. 00:26:25.630 --> 00:26:28.220 We collected some soil samples and put them 00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:30.170 in temporary monitoring well. 00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:34.550 We had some hydrocarbons in soil about regulatory levels, 00:26:34.550 --> 00:26:35.950 which required to clean up. 00:26:35.950 --> 00:26:39.720 So we excavated those soils and disposed off off site. 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:44.090 And then in 2008 Nueces County received their certificate 00:26:44.090 --> 00:26:47.563 of completion for this outlet mall property. 00:26:49.610 --> 00:26:53.920 And then water quality environmental investigations. 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.853 So this one, they entered in 2015. 00:26:57.983 --> 00:27:00.640 And we found plugged oil and gas wells on that property, 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.453 a drilling pit and a historical tank battery. 00:27:04.310 --> 00:27:09.310 There's hydrocarbons, and metals and chlorides and soils 00:27:09.679 --> 00:27:14.679 at this property that required additional assessment, 00:27:14.780 --> 00:27:16.940 which we did in 2016. 00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:20.280 And then we ended up installing permanent monitoring wells 00:27:20.280 --> 00:27:21.420 at this site. 00:27:21.420 --> 00:27:25.470 And groundwater monitoring is ongoing at the property. 00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:30.100 But right now we have benzene, arsenic and chloride 00:27:30.100 --> 00:27:31.483 in groundwater right now. 00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:35.090 Okay, so our last example 00:27:35.090 --> 00:27:37.890 is gonna be the Turtle Bayou Nature Preserve. 00:27:37.890 --> 00:27:42.410 So this is just outside of Houston in chambers County, 00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:44.683 and it's 511 acres. 00:27:47.690 --> 00:27:50.690 So the environmental investigations we did at this property, 00:27:51.710 --> 00:27:55.440 there are 10 abandoned oil wells on the property, 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.357 there was some associated pits with those wells, 00:27:58.357 --> 00:28:00.090 some above ground storage tanks 00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:01.963 and some saltwater disposal pits. 00:28:03.370 --> 00:28:07.560 We sampled soil, groundwater and surface waters. 00:28:07.560 --> 00:28:11.380 So that surface water from the Turtle Bayou itself 00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:13.430 for petroleum products. 00:28:13.430 --> 00:28:17.270 Based on that phase two investigation we really focused 00:28:17.270 --> 00:28:21.960 in additional assessments on that saltwater disposal 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.560 pit at the site, because there were some chloride 00:28:24.560 --> 00:28:26.613 contamination associated with it. 00:28:27.450 --> 00:28:31.160 And so we're continuing to monitor groundwater 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.933 at this site for chlorides. 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.920 And as a result of the saltwater disposal pit, 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.050 and we also monitor surface waters within Turtle Bayou. 00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:43.890 So Turtle Bayou is a fresh water Bayou. 00:28:43.890 --> 00:28:47.670 And so we're constantly kind of monitoring that to ensure 00:28:47.670 --> 00:28:50.430 that there's no communication between 00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:54.153 the impacted groundwater and the freshwater in Turtle Bayou. 00:28:57.080 --> 00:28:58.410 And this site is really unique 00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:01.900 because it's has multiple funding sources. 00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:04.740 We're gonna get into this actually a lot more in detail 00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:09.740 tomorrow, in the voluntary cleanup and other resources 00:29:09.780 --> 00:29:11.570 with the Railroad Commission at 1:30. 00:29:11.570 --> 00:29:14.280 So I encourage you all to join us to learn 00:29:14.280 --> 00:29:17.210 about the Railroad Commission's different funding sources 00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:21.160 that really helped brownfields out. 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:26.040 But for Turtle Bayou over the years since 2011 00:29:26.040 --> 00:29:31.040 we spent almost $180,000 of brownfields funds on this site. 00:29:32.830 --> 00:29:37.520 Our state managed cleanup group has participated 00:29:37.520 --> 00:29:41.820 with $50,000 in funds for this site. 00:29:41.820 --> 00:29:45.180 And then also a statement and plugin group. 00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:49.700 So I mentioned there are eight total 00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:52.260 abandoned oil and gas wells at this site. 00:29:52.260 --> 00:29:56.330 So far we've been able to plug six of those eight, 00:29:56.330 --> 00:30:01.330 and that's cost us almost $500,000 to do so. 00:30:01.630 --> 00:30:03.633 And this is a great site where, 00:30:04.870 --> 00:30:06.690 this site would have never been redeveloped 00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:10.940 probably if we weren't able to plug those wells. 00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:15.700 So this is a great example of how brownfields 00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:18.480 and the state managed group within the Railroad Commission 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.400 really worked together to bring these sites 00:30:23.670 --> 00:30:27.550 up to kind of a standard that's safe 00:30:27.550 --> 00:30:29.693 for the human health in the environment. 00:30:31.280 --> 00:30:32.570 But again, if you wanna learn more 00:30:32.570 --> 00:30:35.040 about this on the different funding sources, 00:30:35.040 --> 00:30:36.573 join us tomorrow at 1:30. 00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:40.240 And with that I will just let you guys know 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.710 where it's at the applications right now. 00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:45.250 Again, you just go online, download it, 00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:47.540 fill it out and mail it to us. 00:30:47.540 --> 00:30:50.700 We're still working per usual, 00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.490 even though we're telecommuting right now. 00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:56.510 If you want any more information or have questions 00:30:56.510 --> 00:30:59.317 give me a call, that phone number right there, 00:30:59.317 --> 00:31:01.640 it's my work phone number, but it goes to my laptop 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.620 so I can answer it even on telecommuting, 00:31:04.620 --> 00:31:07.870 or send me an email, whichever you prefer. 00:31:07.870 --> 00:31:10.510 And then if you just wanna kind of stay up to date 00:31:10.510 --> 00:31:12.760 on what the Railroad Commission's Brownfields Program 00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:17.190 is doing different resources that are available, 00:31:17.190 --> 00:31:19.320 I'd encourage everyone to sign up 00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:22.790 for the Brownfields quarterly bulletin. 00:31:22.790 --> 00:31:27.073 And with that I am going to turn it over to Phylicia. 00:31:32.360 --> 00:31:34.240 Awesome, thank you Leslie. 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.483 I'm gonna switch over here as well. 00:31:53.010 --> 00:31:56.050 Alrighty, let's start at the beginning of that. 00:31:57.394 --> 00:32:00.189 Alright everyone, thank you for attending 00:32:00.189 --> 00:32:02.443 our Brownfields in Texas webinar. 00:32:03.590 --> 00:32:06.713 We're really excited that everyone is here. 00:32:08.030 --> 00:32:12.070 I'm gonna go ahead and get started for brownfields. 00:32:12.070 --> 00:32:14.270 But Leslie has also gone over this. 00:32:14.270 --> 00:32:15.730 But again, we're gonna reiterate. 00:32:15.730 --> 00:32:18.090 A brownfield site is defined as real property, 00:32:18.090 --> 00:32:21.210 the expansion, redevelopment reuse 00:32:21.210 --> 00:32:24.700 of which may be complicated by the perceived presence 00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:28.033 of hazardous substance, pollutants or contaminants. 00:32:29.060 --> 00:32:31.500 And as Leslie discussed about Railroad Commission 00:32:31.500 --> 00:32:36.500 jurisdiction, TCEQ brownfields jurisdiction covers 00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:40.220 hazardous and non hazardous substances, 00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:45.150 industrial and solid waste system material 00:32:45.150 --> 00:32:50.150 that you may think of as you know, garbage rubbish sludge, 00:32:50.610 --> 00:32:52.660 possibly from your waste treatment plant, 00:32:53.790 --> 00:32:57.173 and on the rare occasions and air pollution control. 00:32:58.251 --> 00:33:03.190 So TCEQ Brownfields deals with kind of everything 00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:04.763 except oil and gas. 00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:12.730 So before we discuss how the Brownfields Program works, 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.630 I wanted to point you in the direction 00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:20.470 of our Brownfield story map that we have 00:33:20.470 --> 00:33:22.150 on the website here. 00:33:22.150 --> 00:33:27.150 We have our Austin Brownfields tour story map. 00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:32.250 So brownfields that are located throughout Austin, 00:33:32.250 --> 00:33:34.480 it'll take you around a little tour. 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.600 And I'm also going to invite you, 00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:40.173 we just released our program story map, 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.380 which I wasn't able to include here yet. 00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:45.450 But please go ahead and take a look. 00:33:45.450 --> 00:33:47.550 These are really great highlights 00:33:47.550 --> 00:33:51.160 of what they might look like in your community. 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.253 I'm also gonna give you just a few examples here. 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:00.550 You may have some abandoned buildings in your community, 00:34:00.550 --> 00:34:04.207 anything that may have been closed down for a while, 00:34:04.207 --> 00:34:07.653 and you're looking to bring it back into business. 00:34:08.610 --> 00:34:11.420 Vacant properties in your area. 00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:16.250 These two examples are located in a residential area. 00:34:18.010 --> 00:34:20.280 As you can see here they have plans here 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.053 to build a new church. 00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:25.410 Keep those areas in mind. 00:34:25.410 --> 00:34:28.963 It doesn't always have to be an old building. 00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:33.460 Abandoned gas station may, I think everyone 00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:36.790 has been in gas stations in their community 00:34:36.790 --> 00:34:39.850 that they would like to get rid of. 00:34:39.850 --> 00:34:43.873 Brownfields does have limited funding for sites like that. 00:34:47.750 --> 00:34:50.940 And for the purpose of Brownfields. 00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:53.940 So many commercial, industrial 00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:56.910 and even some residential properties as we saw 00:34:56.910 --> 00:35:00.723 maybe environment impacted due to the past use at the site. 00:35:02.040 --> 00:35:04.700 Small Business Liability Relief and Brownfields 00:35:04.700 --> 00:35:08.840 Revitalization Act, also known as the Brownfields law, 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.630 amends CERCLA, were able to provide grants 00:35:11.630 --> 00:35:16.630 for site assessments, cleanup and liability exemptions. 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.840 So the Brownfields funding isn't these beautiful 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.403 redevelopment plans that we're discussing. 00:35:26.410 --> 00:35:30.980 But may be dormant, underutilized and we're promoting 00:35:30.980 --> 00:35:34.023 sustainable clean up and reuse in your community. 00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:40.970 So you may be thinking, 00:35:40.970 --> 00:35:43.620 why, why do I wanna redevelop brownfields? 00:35:43.620 --> 00:35:45.223 What's in it for me? 00:35:46.667 --> 00:35:49.400 The redevelopment of brownfields can reach 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.883 various areas of revitalization. 00:35:52.720 --> 00:35:56.040 You can stir revitalization in your area 00:35:56.040 --> 00:36:00.260 based on some of our redevelopment programs. 00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:03.090 Increased tax revenue, you can bring more valuable 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:06.913 and more attractive business into your community. 00:36:08.630 --> 00:36:13.550 Economic growth, you have more incentive for free developers 00:36:13.550 --> 00:36:16.900 that may be looking to invest in your community. 00:36:16.900 --> 00:36:19.020 Going through the Brownfields Program 00:36:19.020 --> 00:36:23.470 is often a little bit of a marketing tool that you can use. 00:36:23.470 --> 00:36:25.263 You may have is historic buildings 00:36:25.263 --> 00:36:29.450 that haven't been used for a while. 00:36:29.450 --> 00:36:32.220 And you're you can come together and figure out 00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:33.420 how you may wanna use, 00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:35.440 what your community may wanna use it for. 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.123 You can improve the quality of life. 00:36:39.010 --> 00:36:42.480 May that be a restaurant that, you know, 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.480 you may have to drive too far to attend anywhere else, 00:36:47.870 --> 00:36:49.770 maybe bring that into your area. 00:36:49.770 --> 00:36:52.233 It may be a gym, it may be a bar. 00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:58.150 All these redevelopment locations can grow your community, 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.190 create jobs, and eliminate these eyesores 00:37:02.190 --> 00:37:04.293 that may be sitting around for a while. 00:37:07.540 --> 00:37:10.330 So let's discuss the process at TCEQ. 00:37:13.620 --> 00:37:16.570 As soon as you submit your application, 00:37:16.570 --> 00:37:19.240 we work with you all the way, 00:37:19.240 --> 00:37:20.950 even before you submit your application 00:37:20.950 --> 00:37:22.983 we're discussing with you planning, 00:37:24.200 --> 00:37:27.220 what you have in mind for redevelopment, 00:37:27.220 --> 00:37:30.290 maybe you've seen us at an outreach event 00:37:30.290 --> 00:37:33.122 and you're thinking, hey, I have this site, 00:37:33.122 --> 00:37:34.140 what do I do next? 00:37:34.140 --> 00:37:35.723 How do I get in the program? 00:37:37.140 --> 00:37:42.140 And the first step is to give us a call, 00:37:42.330 --> 00:37:44.300 you can send us an email. 00:37:44.300 --> 00:37:47.383 And we can point you in the direction of our application. 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.250 If you take a picture of the QR code, 00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:55.950 here on the slide you'll be able to view your application. 00:37:55.950 --> 00:37:59.203 It is about 14 pages long. 00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:03.060 So I'm gonna highlight a couple 00:38:03.060 --> 00:38:06.263 of key information that's needed, 00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:09.420 that we'll be looking for before we can accept 00:38:09.420 --> 00:38:11.053 you into the program. 00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:16.360 I do wanna let there is no cost and no fee to apply 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:17.803 to the Brownfields Program. 00:38:19.680 --> 00:38:22.870 So once you go to our website here, 00:38:22.870 --> 00:38:25.850 you'll download the application, 00:38:25.850 --> 00:38:29.780 you'll need to either print and fill out. 00:38:29.780 --> 00:38:32.297 The application is in a PDF format. 00:38:34.333 --> 00:38:35.640 Fill it out, you'll go ahead 00:38:35.640 --> 00:38:40.640 and email it to brownfieldstceg.texas.gov. 00:38:41.150 --> 00:38:44.330 And in that application you'll need to include 00:38:44.330 --> 00:38:46.523 the current property owner. 00:38:47.860 --> 00:38:50.740 You may be planning to purchase the property 00:38:50.740 --> 00:38:52.720 in the process of Brownfields. 00:38:52.720 --> 00:38:56.060 And so it's important we know who the property owner is, 00:38:56.060 --> 00:38:59.750 and we have a signed access agreement from them. 00:38:59.750 --> 00:39:02.860 As far as the site name, normally it's something 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.960 that you're planning to redevelop the site into. 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.010 So you'll include the site name, the site address, 00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:13.430 any information that you may have on the historical use 00:39:13.430 --> 00:39:15.040 of the property, what may have happened 00:39:15.040 --> 00:39:18.680 in the past and a redevelopment plan. 00:39:18.680 --> 00:39:21.420 The redevelopment plan can change. 00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:24.920 This can be flexible as we go through the program 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.080 and as the planning moves forward as long as we know 00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:31.850 that you're striving to redevelop 00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:36.343 this property in your area. 00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:41.173 We'll be able to accept the ends of the program. 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.800 So will talk about who's eligible. 00:39:48.330 --> 00:39:53.060 These eligible applicant and eligible entities 00:39:53.060 --> 00:39:54.610 will also be called applicants, 00:39:54.610 --> 00:39:56.920 kind of throughout the presentation, 00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:00.770 and you'll have to, to qualify or needs to be an nonprofit, 00:40:00.770 --> 00:40:05.610 or governmental entity, Economic Development Corporation, 00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:10.340 redevelopment agencies, your city town or local government 00:40:10.340 --> 00:40:12.573 and Federally Recognized Tribes. 00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:20.140 Ineligible properties are any federal property, 00:40:20.140 --> 00:40:24.050 or any property that has gone through 00:40:24.050 --> 00:40:27.330 the corrective action process or has been listed on, 00:40:27.330 --> 00:40:31.453 or is listed on the national priority list under super fund. 00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:37.320 If you're unsure if you're eligible, 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.840 please feel free to give us a call. 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.300 We're happy to discuss eligibility with you 00:40:42.300 --> 00:40:47.280 if you're not really sure what's gone on in the past 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.650 or what's currently going on,. 00:40:48.650 --> 00:40:49.640 We're happy to assist you 00:40:49.640 --> 00:40:52.023 with any of those questions about eligibility. 00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.273 So we know you're eligible. 00:41:00.392 --> 00:41:01.990 Once you're eligible you will receive 00:41:01.990 --> 00:41:04.000 an acceptance letter from us. 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.523 That's kind of initiate our process for phase one. 00:41:08.810 --> 00:41:11.855 In the phase one environmental site assessment, 00:41:11.855 --> 00:41:16.855 we'll conduct interviews and conduct a site inspection 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.603 via our assigned contractor. 00:41:20.450 --> 00:41:23.740 This very large report will produce 00:41:23.740 --> 00:41:27.420 any environmental conditions that are recognized 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:31.300 at the site, any historical environmental conditions 00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:32.670 at the site. 00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:36.203 And we'll send you a copy of the report. 00:41:37.300 --> 00:41:39.830 We'll also send you a phase one summary letter 00:41:39.830 --> 00:41:42.020 to discuss the next steps, 00:41:42.020 --> 00:41:44.343 and just let you know here's what we found. 00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:49.773 If we did find anything we'll move into the next phase, 00:41:50.740 --> 00:41:52.540 phase two for sampling. 00:41:52.540 --> 00:41:56.820 If not, you will receive a closure letter 00:41:56.820 --> 00:42:01.820 and you can go ahead and proceed with purchasing 00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:05.860 or redevelopment plans as needed. 00:42:05.860 --> 00:42:09.560 We do discuss your purchasing timeline. 00:42:09.560 --> 00:42:13.260 Because liability can only be released if the property 00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:18.260 is purchased within 180 days of the final phase one report. 00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:22.460 So we just encourage you to stay in communication with us, 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:25.090 with TCEQ if any of these plans change, 00:42:25.090 --> 00:42:27.173 we can definitely help you in this case. 00:42:30.180 --> 00:42:33.820 So site activities for your phase two 00:42:33.820 --> 00:42:37.440 environmental site assessment are based on your phase one. 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.440 So these investigations look like groundwater sampling. 00:42:42.740 --> 00:42:46.560 We do not install any permanent monitoring wells, 00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:51.560 but we do install temporary monitoring wells at TCEQ. 00:42:52.610 --> 00:42:57.610 We will determine a soil sampling is necessary. 00:42:57.690 --> 00:43:00.703 And supplemental activities at the site may include, 00:43:02.090 --> 00:43:06.380 geophysical survey if it is an old gas station, 00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:10.060 we'll wanna make sure the gas tanks were removed, 00:43:10.060 --> 00:43:15.060 or where they're located a water while survey is conducted, 00:43:16.700 --> 00:43:19.460 rarely is this ever conducted. 00:43:19.460 --> 00:43:22.010 And then if we're moving into cleanup, 00:43:22.010 --> 00:43:25.540 we also are able to get a an engineering estimate 00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:28.543 for your cleanup needs. 00:43:29.530 --> 00:43:32.060 It's important to keep in mind that this whole process 00:43:32.060 --> 00:43:36.420 can take approximately three months on average 00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:38.210 to be completed and approved 00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:40.063 and kind of move through the process. 00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:44.110 TCEQ will be in contact with the applicant, 00:43:44.110 --> 00:43:46.690 letting you know where we are in the process. 00:43:46.690 --> 00:43:49.960 Again, we wanna be in touch with you and make sure 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.013 we're on a timeline that works for you. 00:43:57.050 --> 00:44:00.230 Now depending on what the phase two discovers 00:44:00.230 --> 00:44:04.940 the next step may be cleanup planning for redevelopment. 00:44:04.940 --> 00:44:09.810 TCEQ partners with the Railroad Commission, EPA, 00:44:09.810 --> 00:44:13.880 federal state entities, local redevelopment agencies 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.420 and applicants to facilitate cleanup, transferability 00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:19.663 and revitalization your community. 00:44:21.310 --> 00:44:24.880 We also provide grant support letters. 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.370 If you are moving into a cleanup plan 00:44:28.370 --> 00:44:29.910 or even an assessment plan 00:44:29.910 --> 00:44:33.253 any of the EPA grant applications. 00:44:34.730 --> 00:44:38.060 This grant support letter just let them know we support you 00:44:38.060 --> 00:44:39.520 and we'll kind of give you a couple, 00:44:39.520 --> 00:44:42.123 it'll give you a couple more points in your application. 00:44:43.530 --> 00:44:46.650 If you need assistance in writing your grant 00:44:46.650 --> 00:44:51.650 we partner with our KSU technical assistance to Brownfields, 00:44:51.770 --> 00:44:53.530 and their schedule can be found 00:44:53.530 --> 00:44:57.530 at the website here, ksutab.org. 00:44:57.530 --> 00:45:01.830 They do a great job of helping the applicants 00:45:03.970 --> 00:45:05.870 work on their grant writings, 00:45:05.870 --> 00:45:09.210 and also kind of the brainstorming and the visioning 00:45:09.210 --> 00:45:12.840 for what type of redevelopment they have in mind 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:13.840 for their community. 00:45:15.510 --> 00:45:19.920 TCEQ Brownfields can also assist with application 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:24.920 to the TCEQ Voluntary Cleanup Program. 00:45:25.160 --> 00:45:28.230 So the fees are waived. 00:45:28.230 --> 00:45:29.950 If you go through the Brownfields Program 00:45:29.950 --> 00:45:34.180 you can have your fees waived entry in the VCP program. 00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:37.750 Again, this helps with constraints of liability, 00:45:37.750 --> 00:45:40.770 anything that may be potentially 00:45:40.770 --> 00:45:43.193 holding up your real estate transactions. 00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:49.150 And the Voluntary Cleanup Program can assist you in reaching 00:45:49.150 --> 00:45:51.890 your end goal, reaching that redevelopment phase 00:45:51.890 --> 00:45:55.453 and providing you with a certificate of completion. 00:45:56.850 --> 00:46:00.646 You can find more information about that on our website, 00:46:00.646 --> 00:46:03.793 tcequnderremediationvcp. 00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:13.190 When you're ready to apply for your grant application, 00:46:13.190 --> 00:46:16.830 as I mentioned our case you have helped organize 00:46:16.830 --> 00:46:18.983 a community meeting called the visioning. 00:46:20.810 --> 00:46:23.500 In these meetings, and they're organized 00:46:23.500 --> 00:46:27.163 with a lot of community participation. 00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:33.560 In this example here we have the local official, 00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:35.810 we have a local official presenting 00:46:36.868 --> 00:46:39.100 site history and information. 00:46:39.100 --> 00:46:41.490 You can see all the community members 00:46:41.490 --> 00:46:45.900 working in table groups to generate and prioritize 00:46:45.900 --> 00:46:47.500 property reuse options. 00:46:47.500 --> 00:46:51.050 So some of their options in this example, 00:46:51.050 --> 00:46:53.960 they may have thought about doing a farmers market, 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.160 and antique mall, entertainment in their community. 00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:01.630 They're talking about bowling, and the community members 00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:06.080 are able to be engaged and vote on what they feel 00:47:07.430 --> 00:47:09.863 they would like to see in this community. 00:47:10.970 --> 00:47:14.810 This brainstorming activity just brings everyone together. 00:47:14.810 --> 00:47:19.810 And your community input and support will also help you 00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:25.260 get to that redevelopment portion of the project. 00:47:27.100 --> 00:47:30.330 I'm gonna go through some examples of redevelopment 00:47:30.330 --> 00:47:34.090 that have gone through TCEQ Brownfields. 00:47:34.090 --> 00:47:36.030 We've provided housing. 00:47:36.030 --> 00:47:39.730 So for this site Guadalupe Saldana subdivision 00:47:39.730 --> 00:47:41.283 located in Austin. 00:47:44.869 --> 00:47:46.930 This is about 11 acres of land, 00:47:47.855 --> 00:47:51.370 entered into the Brownfields Program in 2008. 00:47:51.370 --> 00:47:56.370 We did soil and groundwater assessments with the phase two. 00:47:57.572 --> 00:48:02.572 In 2012 we activated the impacted soil and debris 00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:06.240 to achieve residential use. 00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:10.700 The residential use is now housing 00:48:10.700 --> 00:48:15.563 a 130 unit residential subdivision. 00:48:16.939 --> 00:48:19.170 In this subdivision they're providing, 00:48:19.170 --> 00:48:22.190 you can rent these homes or you can even take ownership 00:48:22.190 --> 00:48:23.710 of these homes. 00:48:23.710 --> 00:48:28.260 And you can kind of see these solar panels on here. 00:48:28.260 --> 00:48:32.320 They have a net-zero designation outfitted 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.610 with these solar panels. 00:48:34.610 --> 00:48:38.260 And so it's definitely cost saving for anyone 00:48:38.260 --> 00:48:40.663 that is currently living there. 00:48:42.535 --> 00:48:46.830 Transportation is another resource that you can use. 00:48:49.220 --> 00:48:53.470 This is Capital Metro North Operation maintenance facility 00:48:53.470 --> 00:48:56.180 also located in Austin. 00:48:56.180 --> 00:49:00.270 The site used to be a manufacturing warehouse 00:49:00.270 --> 00:49:03.010 and a cotton a gardening 00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:06.223 and a mattress manufacturing warehouse. 00:49:07.670 --> 00:49:12.670 This is about 28 acre property. 00:49:12.770 --> 00:49:17.510 We conducted soil and groundwater monitoring 00:49:17.510 --> 00:49:20.360 via our state contractor. 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.980 And this site went through the Voluntary Cleanup Program 00:49:23.980 --> 00:49:28.470 and they were able to receive federal funding. 00:49:28.470 --> 00:49:32.010 Federal funding was obtained to help redevelop this site 00:49:32.010 --> 00:49:34.663 for new Cap Metro facilities. 00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:39.833 So as you can see now it's housing the metro rail. 00:49:41.260 --> 00:49:42.760 You know, no demo is needed. 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.187 So I think this is a really great one. 00:49:48.720 --> 00:49:52.543 St. Philip's Food Pantry located in Dallas. 00:49:54.060 --> 00:49:58.870 The food pantry was a gas station 00:49:58.870 --> 00:50:03.870 prior to, where it stands now we had, 00:50:04.190 --> 00:50:06.940 we conducted again soil and groundwater assessment, 00:50:06.940 --> 00:50:10.223 we removed some gasoline tanks. 00:50:11.070 --> 00:50:14.240 And this community was in dire need 00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:16.220 of a food pantry like this. 00:50:16.220 --> 00:50:18.963 They have where you can enter, 00:50:20.310 --> 00:50:22.683 they have restricted hours where you can enter, 00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:24.630 anyone from the community 00:50:24.630 --> 00:50:29.630 can sign up to come in and collect food for their families. 00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:34.710 This is not something that was readily available 00:50:34.710 --> 00:50:39.393 in South Dallas and very much needed for their community. 00:50:41.850 --> 00:50:46.080 You can contact us at TCEQ Brownfields, 00:50:46.080 --> 00:50:50.250 we have a brownfield specific email here. 00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:53.160 Also feel free to visit our website 00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:56.500 where you can find out a little bit more information. 00:50:56.500 --> 00:51:01.500 We have our success stories highlighted on our page. 00:51:02.600 --> 00:51:06.040 It kind of walks you through a GIS story map, 00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:09.520 and give you a couple more examples to share with you, 00:51:09.520 --> 00:51:13.060 and kind of give you some idea of how the program works, 00:51:13.060 --> 00:51:17.720 and if you have something in your area that you're ready 00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:18.703 to bring to us. 00:51:19.548 --> 00:51:24.140 And I just wanna say thank you everyone again for attending. 00:51:24.140 --> 00:51:27.400 We look forward to working with you on any redevelopment 00:51:28.460 --> 00:51:31.593 ideas that you may have that may come into Brownfield. 00:51:42.200 --> 00:51:44.570 All right, awesome, thank you Phylicia. 00:51:44.570 --> 00:51:46.783 So we have a couple minutes left. 00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:51.893 We are gonna go ahead and open it up for questions. 00:51:55.500 --> 00:51:56.333 Yes. 00:51:58.477 --> 00:52:00.003 Hello, good job y'all. 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.653 This is Peter, we have questions from three individuals. 00:52:06.560 --> 00:52:07.630 Okay. 00:52:07.630 --> 00:52:10.633 The first question is, 00:52:14.490 --> 00:52:16.910 if there's gonna be a recording of today's webinar 00:52:16.910 --> 00:52:21.743 or slides available for people to download? 00:52:22.810 --> 00:52:25.470 So today's webinar, the full webinar 00:52:25.470 --> 00:52:27.977 with the presentation and the recording of us talking over, 00:52:27.977 --> 00:52:32.977 that's gonna be available, basically from here on out 00:52:33.340 --> 00:52:38.140 at this same URL that you're using to webcast. 00:52:38.140 --> 00:52:41.990 So that URL webcast link 00:52:41.990 --> 00:52:45.350 will serve as an archive record of this. 00:52:45.350 --> 00:52:49.150 So you can type that in and always go back to this. 00:52:49.150 --> 00:52:51.570 And then we definitely can make 00:52:51.570 --> 00:52:54.943 the PowerPoint presentations available. 00:52:56.270 --> 00:52:59.250 We can either, if anyone's interested in it, 00:52:59.250 --> 00:53:02.540 you can send us an email and we'll provide it to you. 00:53:02.540 --> 00:53:06.070 Or we can talk with our communication folks 00:53:06.070 --> 00:53:08.110 about trying to get the PowerPoint 00:53:09.040 --> 00:53:11.653 loaded up on our website to download. 00:53:14.646 --> 00:53:15.479 Fantastic. 00:53:15.479 --> 00:53:17.610 Okay, thank you. 00:53:17.610 --> 00:53:18.683 Another question. 00:53:19.670 --> 00:53:24.120 Our soil gas and, or vapor intrusion assessments considered 00:53:24.120 --> 00:53:27.333 in Railroad Commission Brownfield assessments? 00:53:30.430 --> 00:53:31.540 So I would say 00:53:31.540 --> 00:53:34.093 they would definitely be considered. 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:40.040 So every time that the Railroad Commission 00:53:40.040 --> 00:53:45.040 takes on a new site and we do, they start doing a phase two, 00:53:45.660 --> 00:53:48.820 and where we're gonna put in soil samples, 00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:53.280 or monitoring wells, we have to submit to EPA 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.020 a sampling and analysis plan, 00:53:55.020 --> 00:53:58.010 and if at this site there's a question 00:53:58.010 --> 00:54:03.010 of maybe vapor issues, we would definitely want to include 00:54:03.860 --> 00:54:06.410 that information in that sampling and analysis plan, 00:54:06.410 --> 00:54:11.410 and just kind of see what EPA's response to that would be. 00:54:12.650 --> 00:54:15.710 I will say in the past we have not had a say 00:54:15.710 --> 00:54:19.853 in the Brownfields Program with vapor issues. 00:54:20.900 --> 00:54:23.902 But I think it would definitely 100% be considered 00:54:23.902 --> 00:54:27.660 if those vapors are, if the source of the vapors 00:54:27.660 --> 00:54:30.010 are from oil and gas, and there's a potential 00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:33.770 for human health risk. 00:54:33.770 --> 00:54:36.830 And Peter do you have anything else to add to that? 00:54:36.830 --> 00:54:38.555 No I don't. 00:54:38.555 --> 00:54:40.567 Okay Thank you, thank you. 00:54:42.010 --> 00:54:42.843 Okay. 00:54:47.970 --> 00:54:52.910 Here's a person or scenario where somebody has an abandoned 00:54:53.870 --> 00:54:58.870 coal mine on their property, whose Brownfield Program, 00:55:00.810 --> 00:55:01.940 is there a place in either one 00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:04.373 of these Brownfield Programs for this situation? 00:55:07.030 --> 00:55:09.110 So I would say Peter, 00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:11.790 correct me if I'm wrong, but the Railroad Commission 00:55:11.790 --> 00:55:15.870 actually has a separate program, 00:55:17.660 --> 00:55:20.420 We have a whole division within a Railroad Commission 00:55:20.420 --> 00:55:24.480 for mining operations and abandoned mines specifically, 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.480 they get federal funds as well to clean up and investigate 00:55:30.170 --> 00:55:35.170 any abandoned mines be, the specifics of those federal funds 00:55:37.670 --> 00:55:39.360 and what they can be used for it. 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.823 But there might be specific types of mines. 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:47.520 I'm not 100% sure, but we do have are an entire program 00:55:47.520 --> 00:55:48.873 dedicated to that. 00:55:51.520 --> 00:55:53.860 Yeah, that was a good answer Leslie. 00:55:53.860 --> 00:55:55.510 I don't have anything to add to that. 00:55:55.510 --> 00:55:59.290 Okay, and then if anyone has more questions 00:55:59.290 --> 00:56:03.650 regarding that, I'd be happy to put them in communication 00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:05.590 with our surface mining group. 00:56:05.590 --> 00:56:08.543 And they could then answer those specific questions. 00:56:09.520 --> 00:56:10.353 Okay. 00:56:12.300 --> 00:56:17.033 Next question, can an applicant be a candidate? 00:56:20.609 --> 00:56:23.160 Can I be both an applicant 00:56:23.160 --> 00:56:28.160 and a potential responsible party in a BRP application? 00:56:30.870 --> 00:56:34.520 For the Railroad Commission's program 00:56:34.520 --> 00:56:36.890 that would, it would definitely be no. 00:56:36.890 --> 00:56:41.310 If you were the whole premise of the Brownfields Program 00:56:41.310 --> 00:56:43.740 along with also the Voluntary Cleanup Program 00:56:43.740 --> 00:56:45.760 within the Railroad Commission at least, 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.563 is that you cannot be a responsible party. 00:56:50.740 --> 00:56:54.960 And so I'll also let Phylicia answer that for terms of TCEQ. 00:56:57.340 --> 00:56:59.210 Right, yeah, it'll be the same for us. 00:56:59.210 --> 00:57:04.210 If you are a BRP you will not be eligible in the program. 00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:10.727 And Kristy correct me if I'm wrong also, but see, 00:57:12.370 --> 00:57:15.870 I think the only, you can't have contributed 00:57:15.870 --> 00:57:20.533 to the contamination and enter the program. 00:57:22.770 --> 00:57:24.410 Okay, thank you. 00:57:24.410 --> 00:57:27.190 Okay, and then we have just one last question 00:57:29.720 --> 00:57:31.633 based on emails that I've received. 00:57:32.530 --> 00:57:37.530 And that is, should I apply for reimbursement 00:57:38.070 --> 00:57:42.150 of personal funds if I use personal funds to assess a site 00:57:42.150 --> 00:57:44.643 before being accepted into the program? 00:57:47.790 --> 00:57:49.340 That is a very interesting question 00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:51.773 that we have never received. 00:57:54.210 --> 00:57:57.060 I don't think we've ever necessarily considered that. 00:57:57.060 --> 00:58:02.060 But I would say that the answer to that is probably no. 00:58:02.250 --> 00:58:06.430 Because the point of the program is for the state 00:58:06.430 --> 00:58:08.470 to have the contracted work, 00:58:08.470 --> 00:58:10.570 we have the professional engineering firms 00:58:10.570 --> 00:58:12.810 go out there, do all this. 00:58:12.810 --> 00:58:16.410 We have to submit all these sampling and analysis plans 00:58:16.410 --> 00:58:19.063 to EPA to approve of all that work. 00:58:21.895 --> 00:58:24.920 And all that needs to be done before you start working, 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.840 so remediating sites I would say no. 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.290 But at that case if you do use your personal funds 00:58:32.290 --> 00:58:34.740 to do an environmental assessment and cleanup, 00:58:34.740 --> 00:58:38.080 you could enter the Voluntary Cleanup Program, 00:58:38.080 --> 00:58:41.220 and then receive a release of liability, 00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:42.053 which you're not get, 00:58:42.053 --> 00:58:44.210 you wouldn't get that in Brownfields. 00:58:44.210 --> 00:58:45.450 The certificate of completion 00:58:45.450 --> 00:58:47.470 does not come with that release of liability, 00:58:47.470 --> 00:58:49.850 because there's not really a need for it, 00:58:49.850 --> 00:58:52.980 since the state is who did the cleanup. 00:58:52.980 --> 00:58:57.980 But for any private citizen who is not caused or contributed 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:02.390 to contamination, and they have taken on the remediation 00:59:02.390 --> 00:59:05.730 and assessment of a site, you could then enter VCP 00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:08.040 and receive the release of liability. 00:59:08.040 --> 00:59:11.830 That's both for the current landowner, future landowners, 00:59:11.830 --> 00:59:16.830 any lenders, or borrowers, or leasers or anything like that. 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.690 So that is a really big incentive 00:59:19.690 --> 00:59:21.090 for anyone who does do that. 00:59:23.470 --> 00:59:24.853 Very good. 00:59:26.830 --> 00:59:29.140 That brings us to 2:29. 00:59:29.140 --> 00:59:30.310 Phylicia did you have anything 00:59:30.310 --> 00:59:32.633 to add to that before we wrap up? 00:59:34.180 --> 00:59:35.440 No I don't have. 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:36.380 Okay. 00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:38.823 Okay, well, the last question we got was, 00:59:39.720 --> 00:59:44.320 we just received is, could we send the PowerPoint 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.430 presentation out for the webinar? 00:59:47.430 --> 00:59:50.060 Leslie, can you repeat what you said earlier 00:59:50.060 --> 00:59:53.613 about getting this presentation? 00:59:54.610 --> 00:59:55.443 Yes. 00:59:55.443 --> 00:59:57.960 So I think the best thing we can do, 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.260 so if anyone is interested in the presentation 01:00:01.260 --> 01:00:03.370 immediately and you're like it right now, 01:00:03.370 --> 01:00:08.370 just send me an email at leslie.bruce@rrc.texas.gov, 01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:14.420 or to this email address where you sent questions, 01:00:14.420 --> 01:00:18.730 and I can immediately send this to you. 01:00:18.730 --> 01:00:22.130 But we can also add the PowerPoint slides 01:00:22.130 --> 01:00:25.690 to our website for download. 01:00:25.690 --> 01:00:27.030 Again, that'll take a little bit longer. 01:00:27.030 --> 01:00:29.220 We'll need to get with our communications folks 01:00:29.220 --> 01:00:30.880 to set that up. 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.380 But I think that's something we can definitely do. 01:00:35.740 --> 01:00:38.780 Okay, well, that wraps up the questions. 01:00:38.780 --> 01:00:41.540 So I'm gonna go ahead and mute 01:00:41.540 --> 01:00:46.320 and turn it back to you Leslie. 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:47.750 All right, sounds good. 01:00:47.750 --> 01:00:51.280 I just wanna say thank you to everyone 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.110 who participated today. 01:00:53.110 --> 01:00:56.920 So that's both, our admin monitor folks, 01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:58.850 the folks who have made all this possible 01:00:58.850 --> 01:01:00.960 to get this webinar together. 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.363 Definitely Phylicia and Kristy for helping. 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.950 And just thank you to everyone who's watched the webcast 01:01:06.950 --> 01:01:08.900 and submitted questions. 01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:11.443 Feel free to keep in touch with us, 01:01:11.443 --> 01:01:12.630 and thank you for joining. 01:01:12.630 --> 01:01:14.240 And then I'll turn it over to Phylicia 01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:16.993 in case you wanna say any last parting words. 01:01:18.180 --> 01:01:19.013 No, that's it. 01:01:19.013 --> 01:01:20.900 Thank you Leslie, thanks for allowing us 01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:24.770 to be a part of the first webinar. 01:01:24.770 --> 01:01:29.070 Looking forward to doing a couple many ones 01:01:29.070 --> 01:01:30.573 of these in the future. 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.160 Appreciate the opportunity. 01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:35.220 Yeah, all right. 01:01:35.220 --> 01:01:36.760 Well, thank you guys so much. 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.597 And with that we will close it out. 01:01:42.269 --> 01:01:43.852 Bye, bye.