WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.211 --> 00:00:04.570 Welcome to the Railroad Commission 2 00:00:04.570 --> 00:00:06.900 of Texas Pipeline Safety Rules webinar, 3 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:10.740 on recent updates to 16 TAC 370 and Chapter 8. 4 00:00:10.740 --> 00:00:11.900 My name is Deana Cline, 5 00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:14.270 and I will be moderating today's session. 6 00:00:14.270 --> 00:00:16.150 If you have questions during today's webinar, 7 00:00:16.150 --> 00:00:18.390 please type them into the Q&A section. 8 00:00:18.390 --> 00:00:20.610 You may access this through this Q&A button 9 00:00:20.610 --> 00:00:23.500 in the center of the bottom of your window. 10 00:00:23.500 --> 00:00:25.960 We will kick off today's session with a presentation, 11 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.080 on recent updates to 16 Texas Administrative code Chapter 8, 12 00:00:30.080 --> 00:00:31.923 by Stephanie Weidman. 13 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.050 Stephanie, we are ready when you are. 14 00:00:38.220 --> 00:00:40.120 Good afternoon, my name is Stephanie Weidman, 15 00:00:40.120 --> 00:00:41.900 and I'm the director of pipeline safety, 16 00:00:41.900 --> 00:00:43.870 and the oversight and safety division. 17 00:00:43.870 --> 00:00:47.770 I'll be going over a recent changes to our TAC Chapter 8, 18 00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:50.160 rules, let's go ahead and get started. 19 00:00:50.160 --> 00:00:52.070 If you'll bear with me for a second, 20 00:00:52.070 --> 00:00:55.363 I'm going to pull up the presentation. 21 00:01:01.404 --> 00:01:04.110 As I said, we're gonna be going over recent changes, 22 00:01:04.110 --> 00:01:05.640 to TAC Chapter 8. 23 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.700 And these changes went into effect January 6th of this year. 24 00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:13.130 So just some general changes, we change natural gas to gas, 25 00:01:13.130 --> 00:01:15.950 and that was declared by the propane gas distribution, 26 00:01:15.950 --> 00:01:18.960 systems are also required to follow the Chapter 8. 27 00:01:18.960 --> 00:01:20.640 We also changed Pipeline Safety Division, 28 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.050 to Pipeline Safety Department. 29 00:01:22.050 --> 00:01:24.530 And that is because the pipeline safety section, 30 00:01:24.530 --> 00:01:27.080 is now housed in the Oversight and Safety Division. 31 00:01:28.910 --> 00:01:32.600 Under 8.101 integrity management plans, 32 00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:35.610 we removed the requirement to get direct assess, 33 00:01:35.610 --> 00:01:38.720 the director approval, to use direct assessment. 34 00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:41.060 So operators electing to use direct assessment, 35 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:42.420 as their assessment method, 36 00:01:42.420 --> 00:01:47.070 for pipelines required to be assessed under 8.101, 37 00:01:47.070 --> 00:01:50.230 no longer have to get approval from the director to use that 38 00:01:50.230 --> 00:01:53.137 we've somewhat mirrored, the federal regulations there. 39 00:01:53.137 --> 00:01:56.783 And we also removed outdated language in 8.101(e). 40 00:01:56.783 --> 00:01:58.253 That was mostly dates. 41 00:01:59.990 --> 00:02:01.090 What are the largest changes, 42 00:02:01.090 --> 00:02:04.250 I think that we made in the Chapter 8 amendments, 43 00:02:04.250 --> 00:02:07.270 was adding the new role, the new liquid, 44 00:02:07.270 --> 00:02:09.120 new and gathering line rule. 45 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.820 It's a new rule under 8.110, 46 00:02:11.820 --> 00:02:14.780 and it applies to Class 1 and rural gathering lines. 47 00:02:14.780 --> 00:02:16.220 They're not already regulated 48 00:02:16.220 --> 00:02:19.620 under 49 CFR 192 and 195. 49 00:02:19.620 --> 00:02:22.570 So there's three general sections for this rule, 50 00:02:22.570 --> 00:02:24.930 safety requirements, reporting requirements, 51 00:02:24.930 --> 00:02:26.880 and investigation requirements. 52 00:02:26.880 --> 00:02:28.900 Under safety requirements, 53 00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:30.900 there's really just a generalized statement, 54 00:02:30.900 --> 00:02:33.490 that requires operators take appropriate action, 55 00:02:33.490 --> 00:02:35.740 using processes and technologies, 56 00:02:35.740 --> 00:02:38.143 that are technically feasible, reasonable, 57 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:41.560 and practical to correct a hazardous condition, 58 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.330 that creates a risk to public safety. 59 00:02:43.330 --> 00:02:45.420 Under the reporting requirements, 60 00:02:45.420 --> 00:02:49.770 we refer the operators for gas gathering pipelines, 61 00:02:49.770 --> 00:02:53.980 to comply with 8.2109(e) relating to reports, 62 00:02:53.980 --> 00:02:55.640 and for hazardous liquid pipelines, 63 00:02:55.640 --> 00:03:00.640 to follow a 8.301, 81 b and 82b relating to report. 64 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.130 So that's essentially for, 65 00:03:04.130 --> 00:03:05.896 incidents that meet reportable criteria, 66 00:03:05.896 --> 00:03:08.340 for classical and gathering lines, 67 00:03:08.340 --> 00:03:10.740 it requires the operator to report them within one hour, 68 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:14.050 confirm discovery on the hazardous liquid side, 69 00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:17.230 for incident or accidents that meet the reportable criteria. 70 00:03:17.230 --> 00:03:20.860 It requires the operator, a file a 30 day report, 71 00:03:20.860 --> 00:03:22.900 on the DOTC form. 72 00:03:22.900 --> 00:03:26.330 So we are pretty much married to the federal regulations. 73 00:03:26.330 --> 00:03:28.780 And then the last section, the investigation requirements, 74 00:03:28.780 --> 00:03:31.100 it's essentially just requires the operator, 75 00:03:31.100 --> 00:03:35.410 to cooperate with the commission during the investigation. 76 00:03:35.410 --> 00:03:39.430 So that's providing reasonable access to facilities, records 77 00:03:39.430 --> 00:03:42.140 and file any type of reports that are necessary, 78 00:03:42.140 --> 00:03:43.963 and are requested by the commission. 79 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:47.630 Next, we made changes to 8.115, 80 00:03:47.630 --> 00:03:49.340 which is our new construction reports. 81 00:03:49.340 --> 00:03:52.050 We made quite a few changes to this section, 82 00:03:52.050 --> 00:03:54.880 for gas gathering transmission and hazardous liquid lines. 83 00:03:54.880 --> 00:03:58.100 We kept the requirement that requires a report 30 days prior 84 00:03:58.100 --> 00:04:01.360 for new construction of one mile or more of pipeline. 85 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.350 And then we added in a requirement for 60 days, 86 00:04:04.350 --> 00:04:06.800 prior for 10 miles or greater of pipeline, 87 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.240 that our new construction report is required, 88 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.720 that mirrors the federal regulations. 89 00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:13.800 And we also added a new facility requirements, 90 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:14.700 for breakout tanks. 91 00:04:14.700 --> 00:04:15.930 So any new breakout tank, 92 00:04:15.930 --> 00:04:18.150 is required to have a new construction report. 93 00:04:18.150 --> 00:04:19.320 We added this essentially, 94 00:04:19.320 --> 00:04:20.880 because we don't have a requirement, 95 00:04:20.880 --> 00:04:22.801 for breakout tanks at this time, 96 00:04:22.801 --> 00:04:26.360 and in Texas, we have quite a few tank farms, 97 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.930 and we were finding that we'd show up to, 98 00:04:28.930 --> 00:04:30.530 a pipeline and see a tank farm. 99 00:04:30.530 --> 00:04:32.860 And it wasn't connected to that pipeline. 100 00:04:32.860 --> 00:04:35.637 There are, you know, 40 or 50 tanks out there, 101 00:04:35.637 --> 00:04:37.350 and we had no idea about. 102 00:04:37.350 --> 00:04:40.750 so essentially this was an order for the commission 103 00:04:40.750 --> 00:04:42.360 to find out about new construction, 104 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.060 of these breakout tanks, get them in their system, 105 00:04:45.060 --> 00:04:46.290 but also be able to put eyes, 106 00:04:46.290 --> 00:04:48.347 on the construction aspect of things. 107 00:04:48.347 --> 00:04:52.930 The gas distribution, we have a requirement to file APS-48, 108 00:04:52.930 --> 00:04:55.150 for any new distribution system. 109 00:04:55.150 --> 00:04:57.880 So that's a new subdivision or any distribution system, 110 00:04:57.880 --> 00:05:01.433 that requires is going to require a new RRC system ID, 111 00:05:02.610 --> 00:05:07.325 and also file over PS-48 for any relocation, replacement 112 00:05:07.325 --> 00:05:10.210 or replacement greater than three miles. 113 00:05:10.210 --> 00:05:12.250 So this section gives the operator 114 00:05:12.250 --> 00:05:15.060 two ways to file this report. 115 00:05:15.060 --> 00:05:17.401 They can follow the report on the PS-48, 116 00:05:17.401 --> 00:05:19.230 30 days prior to construction, 117 00:05:19.230 --> 00:05:20.910 or you can provide the commission, 118 00:05:20.910 --> 00:05:23.710 a monthly report that reflects all known projects, 119 00:05:23.710 --> 00:05:26.490 to be completed in the following 12 months, 120 00:05:26.490 --> 00:05:28.950 all projects that are currently in construction, 121 00:05:28.950 --> 00:05:32.380 all projects completed since the prior monthly report, 122 00:05:32.380 --> 00:05:35.830 and the report should provide the status of each project, 123 00:05:35.830 --> 00:05:38.600 the city, the counting of each project, 124 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.070 and the description of each project, 125 00:05:40.070 --> 00:05:42.640 and the estimated start and ending date. 126 00:05:42.640 --> 00:05:45.397 We also amended the PS-48 because of all of these changes. 127 00:05:45.397 --> 00:05:47.430 And that has been gone through conference, 128 00:05:47.430 --> 00:05:48.883 and is now on our website. 129 00:05:50.730 --> 00:05:53.960 We added a few changes and two 8.125, 130 00:05:53.960 --> 00:05:55.540 our waiver procedure. 131 00:05:55.540 --> 00:05:58.120 It clarifies it an operator request a waiver, 132 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.090 before engaging in activities covered by the waiver. 133 00:06:01.090 --> 00:06:04.360 We also clarified references to the Hearings Division, 134 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.230 which is essentially just in changes, 135 00:06:06.230 --> 00:06:07.800 during the approval process, 136 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:09.450 once a waiver has been submitted. 137 00:06:10.660 --> 00:06:13.120 We made some changes to 8.206, 138 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.760 under our risk-based leak survey program. 139 00:06:15.760 --> 00:06:17.810 We added an additional three months buffer, 140 00:06:17.810 --> 00:06:18.643 in which to comply, 141 00:06:18.643 --> 00:06:20.700 with each deadline prescribed with the rule. 142 00:06:20.700 --> 00:06:22.690 So essentially marrying the idea, 143 00:06:22.690 --> 00:06:24.970 with the federal regulations do as well. 144 00:06:24.970 --> 00:06:27.720 An example of this is anything that was required annually, 145 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.920 or within a calendar year is now once each calendar year, 146 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.300 not to exceed 15 months. 147 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:34.720 For a five-year requirement, 148 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.040 It's every five calendar years not to exceed 63 months. 149 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:39.500 We brought this in, so an operator, 150 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:43.200 has the ability to factor in weather, 151 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:44.710 or other things out of their control, 152 00:06:44.710 --> 00:06:47.070 to make sure that the surveys are done in time, 153 00:06:47.070 --> 00:06:48.820 and around the same time each year. 154 00:06:49.810 --> 00:06:52.850 We made some changes to our 8.209 DIMP rule. 155 00:06:52.850 --> 00:06:56.660 Some of these changes implemented House Bill 866, 156 00:06:56.660 --> 00:06:58.600 of the 86 Legislative Session, 157 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.610 which requires distribution operators to annually replace, 158 00:07:02.610 --> 00:07:05.270 8% of the pipeline segments or facilities, 159 00:07:05.270 --> 00:07:09.030 posing the greatest risk, previously it was 5%. 160 00:07:09.030 --> 00:07:11.520 And also replace any known cast iron pipelines, 161 00:07:11.520 --> 00:07:14.240 by December 31st, 2021. 162 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.670 Other changes to this rule are just removing dates, 163 00:07:16.670 --> 00:07:17.553 that have passed. 164 00:07:18.850 --> 00:07:21.650 And 8.210 under reporting requirements. 165 00:07:21.650 --> 00:07:25.810 We implemented changes required under House Bill 864, 166 00:07:25.810 --> 00:07:27.910 of the 86th Legislative Session. 167 00:07:27.910 --> 00:07:29.930 It requires a telephonic report. 168 00:07:29.930 --> 00:07:31.840 We do at the earliest practical moment, 169 00:07:31.840 --> 00:07:35.020 but at the latest one hour following confirmed discovery, 170 00:07:35.020 --> 00:07:37.500 and it also requires the commission retain pipeline, 171 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:39.720 incident reports perpetually. 172 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.675 line:15% We also eliminated the requirement for operators, 173 00:07:42.675 --> 00:07:45.670 line:15% to submit written incident and annual reports, 174 00:07:45.670 --> 00:07:46.800 line:15% to the commission, 175 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.530 line:15% but it does require the operators retain those records, 176 00:07:49.530 --> 00:07:51.763 line:15% and reports and provide them upon request. 177 00:07:53.140 --> 00:07:56.270 Under 8.225 plastic pipe requirements. 178 00:07:56.270 --> 00:07:59.410 We removed all prior wording and reporting requirements. 179 00:07:59.410 --> 00:08:01.690 So the PS-81 are no longer required, 180 00:08:01.690 --> 00:08:04.430 to be reported to commission or filed with the commission. 181 00:08:04.430 --> 00:08:07.440 We added wording here, that operator shall just retain, 182 00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:09.820 all records relating to classic pipe installation 183 00:08:09.820 --> 00:08:11.870 and accordance with the federal regulations, 184 00:08:11.870 --> 00:08:13.283 49 CFR Part 192, 185 00:08:14.190 --> 00:08:17.073 and provide such records to the commission upon request. 186 00:08:18.400 --> 00:08:22.650 Under 8.235 and 8.315 and for public awareness, 187 00:08:22.650 --> 00:08:25.110 we removed the requirement for operators, 188 00:08:25.110 --> 00:08:28.170 to file school proximity reports with the commission, 189 00:08:28.170 --> 00:08:29.820 and then instead require operators, 190 00:08:29.820 --> 00:08:34.360 to maintain records required under 8.235 and 8.315, 191 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.710 and file them with the commission upon request. 192 00:08:37.604 --> 00:08:41.370 Under 8.240 discontinuance of service, 193 00:08:41.370 --> 00:08:45.320 we added in a section that is a new soft-close status. 194 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:49.110 So essentially we are allowing an operator, 195 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:52.350 when a discontinuance of service order is placed, 196 00:08:52.350 --> 00:08:55.910 to put an account in what we define as a soft-close status. 197 00:08:55.910 --> 00:08:57.580 And in this definition, 198 00:08:57.580 --> 00:09:00.380 it states that those set or accounts, 199 00:09:00.380 --> 00:09:03.750 shall have an automatic gas turnoff order executed. 200 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:08.750 If the meter registers is 50 CCF or 5 MCF, 201 00:09:09.010 --> 00:09:11.130 or more of docu of gas, 202 00:09:11.130 --> 00:09:13.810 documented after, the soft-close reading, 203 00:09:13.810 --> 00:09:16.650 or 90 days after the customer's notification 204 00:09:16.650 --> 00:09:18.373 to discontinue gas service. 205 00:09:18.373 --> 00:09:21.210 We essentially implemented this because in Texas, 206 00:09:21.210 --> 00:09:25.130 almost every single large city has multiple a university, 207 00:09:25.130 --> 00:09:26.410 or multiple universities. 208 00:09:26.410 --> 00:09:30.250 And then, it helps for the mass turn on, turn off changes, 209 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:31.940 in the middle of the summer, 210 00:09:31.940 --> 00:09:33.690 when the school year switches over. 211 00:09:33.690 --> 00:09:38.070 And so operators are now we can put some of these accounts 212 00:09:38.070 --> 00:09:42.030 in a soft-close status to avoid unnecessary, 213 00:09:42.030 --> 00:09:43.873 trips out to different residences. 214 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.240 Under 8.301 reporting requirements. 215 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.900 We clarified that the telephonic report, 216 00:09:50.900 --> 00:09:53.460 for reportable accidents involving crude oil, 217 00:09:53.460 --> 00:09:55.360 is due at the earliest practical moment, 218 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.930 but at least one hour following confirmed discovery, 219 00:09:57.930 --> 00:09:59.313 of a pipeline accident. 220 00:10:00.300 --> 00:10:02.020 I also included some helpful links here, 221 00:10:02.020 --> 00:10:05.220 you can go into the proposed changes in the Texas Register. 222 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:09.243 So our proposed changes will be released October 20, 2018. 223 00:10:10.690 --> 00:10:14.190 And then we adopted these in the Texas Register January, 224 00:10:14.190 --> 00:10:16.337 of 2020, and there's different links here. 225 00:10:16.337 --> 00:10:20.130 And these are just to the Texas register in those areas. 226 00:10:20.130 --> 00:10:22.186 And with that are there any questions? 227 00:10:22.186 --> 00:10:25.820 Yeah so far we have six questions. 228 00:10:25.820 --> 00:10:28.570 The first one is under the commodities column. 229 00:10:28.570 --> 00:10:30.320 What is the difference from gathering, 230 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.030 and full well substring gathering, 231 00:10:33.030 --> 00:10:34.440 is full well string gathering, 232 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.010 considered from the well to the meter. 233 00:10:37.010 --> 00:10:39.310 I need to understand the both gas and liquids. 234 00:10:40.800 --> 00:10:43.060 And I think that question is probably best, 235 00:10:43.060 --> 00:10:45.560 and they might answer it during the presentations, 236 00:10:45.560 --> 00:10:49.377 for our POPS group and our permitting group. 237 00:10:49.377 --> 00:10:52.810 And it's possible to be answered during the presentation, 238 00:10:52.810 --> 00:10:56.720 but if one of those guys wants to hop in as well, 239 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:57.870 we could answer it now. 240 00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:12.080 All right, we'll move on to the next question, 241 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.730 unless somebody comes to that one 242 00:11:14.990 --> 00:11:17.970 Sorry, Deana I did get a note, we can answer that. 243 00:11:17.970 --> 00:11:20.070 I think at the end of one of the presentations, 244 00:11:20.070 --> 00:11:21.080 from our permitting group, 245 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:22.660 so we should get that one answered. 246 00:11:22.660 --> 00:11:23.560 Perfect. 247 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.200 Question two, when amending a T-4 Permit, 248 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.190 can an amendment on a commodity types, 249 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:32.233 be changed from liquid to gas? 250 00:11:33.090 --> 00:11:35.660 That is another question I think that will work for, 251 00:11:35.660 --> 00:11:37.890 our permitting group and they should be able to answer, 252 00:11:37.890 --> 00:11:40.140 that question right after that presentation, 253 00:11:40.140 --> 00:11:43.060 or possibly even in the presentation itself. 254 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:44.200 Perfect, okay. 255 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.320 The next question is prepared, 256 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.563 oh, that was clarification on that one. 257 00:11:49.630 --> 00:11:51.710 I just wanted to clarify that the new construction reports, 258 00:11:51.710 --> 00:11:54.840 is 30 days prior to one mile or more, 259 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.770 and 6 minutes prior, or 10 miles or greater, 260 00:11:57.770 --> 00:11:59.530 only applied to gas gathering transmission, 261 00:11:59.530 --> 00:12:02.210 it has just liquid pipelines. 262 00:12:02.210 --> 00:12:05.130 These reports do not apply to natural gas distribution 263 00:12:05.130 --> 00:12:06.183 systems, correct. 264 00:12:09.370 --> 00:12:11.460 For natural gas distribution systems, 265 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:16.100 it would be for a new distribution system, 266 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.200 like so any new distribution system, 267 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.123 or if there's a replacement for three or more miles. 268 00:12:23.420 --> 00:12:25.120 But I can get that one clarified too, 269 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.527 and answer in the comment section. 270 00:12:27.527 --> 00:12:29.580 Next question is, have you incorporated, 271 00:12:29.580 --> 00:12:33.173 these rules rule changes for Class 1 gas gathering? 272 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:39.013 Yes these rules went into effect January 6th, 2020. 273 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:41.883 Public order, 274 00:12:41.883 --> 00:12:44.000 so I think those are all this followup. 275 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:45.780 Additionally, the liquid commodity, 276 00:12:45.780 --> 00:12:48.533 would be changed from liquid to gas doing amendment. 277 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:52.780 I'm sorry, can you restate that one? 278 00:12:53.690 --> 00:12:57.710 Just public awareness and so on to minus 49 CFR, 279 00:12:57.710 --> 00:12:59.360 additionally, the liquid commodities, 280 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.780 would be changed from liquid to gas during an amendment. 281 00:13:02.780 --> 00:13:04.690 That's all it says. 282 00:13:04.690 --> 00:13:06.840 That's probably gonna be under our permitting group, 283 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.950 line:15% as well, and I believe they can answer that under the, 284 00:13:09.950 --> 00:13:11.760 line:15% when after the permitting presentations. 285 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:15.610 line:15% Okay, Will these slides be available online? 286 00:13:15.610 --> 00:13:17.840 line:15% Yes, I can answer that one. 287 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:19.920 line:15% We will provide a link on one of the slides, 288 00:13:19.920 --> 00:13:20.810 line:15% in just a little bit, 289 00:13:20.810 --> 00:13:23.580 line:15% to where you can find the presentations. 290 00:13:23.580 --> 00:13:26.913 line:15% What prompted the rule change for gathering Class 1 form. 291 00:13:28.964 --> 00:13:32.367 line:15% So in those useful links, which actually I'll go 292 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:38.440 line:15% and here in the preamble, we explain all of that, 293 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:41.960 but essentially we were setting the, 294 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.350 we've had the ability to have rules since House Bill 2982, 295 00:13:46.350 --> 00:13:48.320 in a past legislative session. 296 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:53.320 And we have been assessing the risks of, of these incidents. 297 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.860 And as we've seen a slight uptick in incidents, 298 00:13:56.860 --> 00:13:59.150 we've decided that essentially it's time to, 299 00:13:59.150 --> 00:14:02.200 to create some at least reporting requirements, 300 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.010 so we can better track these incidents. 301 00:14:05.010 --> 00:14:07.010 But that information is also included, 302 00:14:07.010 --> 00:14:09.670 all in the proposed changes to the Texas Register, 303 00:14:09.670 --> 00:14:13.499 and these two links within, the preamble. 304 00:14:13.499 --> 00:14:14.830 To the next question, 305 00:14:14.830 --> 00:14:17.160 are the Class 1 rules required to be covered, 306 00:14:17.160 --> 00:14:19.253 under O&M procedures? 307 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.300 So many of the requirements, 308 00:14:25.300 --> 00:14:29.350 are really just the three separate requirements. 309 00:14:29.350 --> 00:14:32.010 There's no specific requirements for plans, 310 00:14:32.010 --> 00:14:34.673 programs, procedures, or any type of, 311 00:14:35.540 --> 00:14:37.150 as maintenance to the pipe over, 312 00:14:37.150 --> 00:14:39.550 prescribed maintenance, to the pipeline. 313 00:14:39.550 --> 00:14:44.070 Just anything required to keep the pipeline safe, 314 00:14:44.070 --> 00:14:45.950 under that safety requirement. 315 00:14:45.950 --> 00:14:48.270 So there's not a specific requirement for O&M's, 316 00:14:48.270 --> 00:14:49.103 at this time. 317 00:14:50.350 --> 00:14:53.350 For the pre-construction notification. 318 00:14:53.350 --> 00:14:55.340 This was not applied to natural gas class, 319 00:14:55.340 --> 00:14:58.563 when gathering lungs at any gas under one mile, correct? 320 00:15:00.940 --> 00:15:04.103 For example this is already incident reporting? 321 00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:07.995 Well, it says this is for the preconstruction. 322 00:15:07.995 --> 00:15:09.570 A a reconstruction notification. 323 00:15:09.570 --> 00:15:10.403 Yes. 324 00:15:11.880 --> 00:15:14.830 This notification is not required for, 325 00:15:14.830 --> 00:15:18.330 any lines that fall under 8.110, 326 00:15:18.330 --> 00:15:20.500 and correct if it's under one mile, 327 00:15:20.500 --> 00:15:22.503 and it's not regarding the rule. 328 00:15:23.972 --> 00:15:26.950 Is the reporting volume for gathering lines, 329 00:15:26.950 --> 00:15:30.403 or under OG still 5VDL. 330 00:15:33.680 --> 00:15:38.680 For oil and gas, yes, for the pipeline safety regulations, 331 00:15:38.930 --> 00:15:40.940 I can't really speak to the oil and gas regulations, 332 00:15:40.940 --> 00:15:43.520 are more familiar with the Chapter 8 regulations, 333 00:15:43.520 --> 00:15:47.100 and they reportable criteria is five gallons, 334 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:49.390 unless it's a five gallon release, 335 00:15:49.390 --> 00:15:52.689 that was due to maintenance, if not, it is five barrels. 336 00:15:52.689 --> 00:15:55.030 And the last one under this one, 337 00:15:55.030 --> 00:15:58.360 does the the 8.110 require reporting 338 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.923 all rural gas and hazardous liquid gathering lines? 339 00:16:03.420 --> 00:16:06.340 Yes, it is for all class 1 gathering lines, 340 00:16:06.340 --> 00:16:08.890 and rural hazardous liquid gas lines, 341 00:16:08.890 --> 00:16:12.973 that are not already covered under 192 and 195. 342 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.080 All right, well we'll take a five minute break, 343 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.793 we'll resume the webinar at one, sorry, 2.01. 344 00:16:28.730 --> 00:16:31.850 When we return the RFCs pipeline permit section, 345 00:16:31.850 --> 00:16:35.280 we'll present on recent changes to 16 TAC 370, 346 00:16:35.280 --> 00:16:37.180 and a guide to shape file submissions. 347 00:16:52.430 --> 00:16:53.530 Welcome back. 348 00:16:53.530 --> 00:16:56.040 We're ready to continue our webinar. 349 00:16:56.040 --> 00:17:00.220 Just a reminder if you have questions during this webinar, 350 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:02.710 please type them into the Q&A section, 351 00:17:02.710 --> 00:17:04.760 Bruce, we're right for you, when you are. 352 00:17:10.760 --> 00:17:11.800 Okay sorry about that, 353 00:17:11.800 --> 00:17:14.830 I was answering one of the questions online. 354 00:17:14.830 --> 00:17:17.120 As Deana said, my name is Bruce Waterman, 355 00:17:17.120 --> 00:17:19.750 and I've been with the Railroad Commission since 1990. 356 00:17:19.750 --> 00:17:22.690 And we're permitting a mapping since 1995. 357 00:17:22.690 --> 00:17:27.510 I'm gonna begin the discussion with two changes, 358 00:17:27.510 --> 00:17:31.360 to 16 TAC, a 370, and then I'm gonna clarify, 359 00:17:31.360 --> 00:17:33.290 what needs a permit. 360 00:17:33.290 --> 00:17:34.930 Some of the questions have been about, 361 00:17:34.930 --> 00:17:38.040 whether you can have gas and liquid on the same permit. 362 00:17:38.040 --> 00:17:39.970 And how would that be handled? 363 00:17:39.970 --> 00:17:41.020 I'm gonna go ahead and add that, 364 00:17:41.020 --> 00:17:43.150 into the end of my discussion, 365 00:17:43.150 --> 00:17:44.960 that I had previously scheduled, 366 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.443 that I wanna mention some things about that. 367 00:17:47.443 --> 00:17:49.170 Then I'm gonna turn it over to who Karley, 368 00:17:49.170 --> 00:17:50.700 who will discuss in more detail, 369 00:17:50.700 --> 00:17:53.430 the changes to the mileage fees and renewals, 370 00:17:53.430 --> 00:17:56.180 then to Ryan for the new transfer merge process. 371 00:17:56.180 --> 00:17:58.770 And finally, over to Chris for critical information, 372 00:17:58.770 --> 00:18:00.533 about mapping. 373 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:05.030 As stated, I'm going to be discussing a two primary changes, 374 00:18:05.030 --> 00:18:08.260 to Rule 16 TAC 3.70. 375 00:18:08.260 --> 00:18:10.170 The first one is that on September 1st, 376 00:18:10.170 --> 00:18:12.770 permit renewal expiration days for all operators, 377 00:18:12.770 --> 00:18:15.700 will be moved to the last day of their specific month. 378 00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:17.670 Based on the first letter of the operators, 379 00:18:17.670 --> 00:18:19.520 of that operator's name. 380 00:18:19.520 --> 00:18:20.863 This means that operators too, 381 00:18:20.863 --> 00:18:22.790 will have their permits during the same, 382 00:18:22.790 --> 00:18:24.550 will all have their permits during the same month, 383 00:18:24.550 --> 00:18:27.640 no matter when they appear to due right now. 384 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:29.360 So for a lot of lucky operators, 385 00:18:29.360 --> 00:18:34.230 whose permits expire from September to December of 2020, 386 00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:38.120 your next renewal will not be until sometime in 2021. 387 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:39.920 The only permit that are gonna be getting renewed, 388 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.780 in fall will be anybody who's permit expired, 389 00:18:42.780 --> 00:18:46.540 before September 1st, that is in a delinquent status, 390 00:18:46.540 --> 00:18:48.650 and it needs to be renewed. 391 00:18:48.650 --> 00:18:50.310 After that your date will then go, 392 00:18:50.310 --> 00:18:53.270 to the corrected new date based on the month, 393 00:18:53.270 --> 00:18:56.790 again based on the first letter of the operator's name. 394 00:18:56.790 --> 00:18:58.210 Something that will be repeated later, 395 00:18:58.210 --> 00:18:59.610 but I'm gonna mention it here is that, 396 00:18:59.610 --> 00:19:02.410 the window of opportunity to renew a permit, 397 00:19:02.410 --> 00:19:04.750 without a late fee is going to be two months. 398 00:19:04.750 --> 00:19:08.060 So that being the month prior to your expiration month, 399 00:19:08.060 --> 00:19:09.970 and the month of your expiration date. 400 00:19:09.970 --> 00:19:14.010 So if you're renewing, for example, in February, 401 00:19:14.010 --> 00:19:16.490 you would have from January 1st to February 28th, 402 00:19:16.490 --> 00:19:19.823 in order to renew that permit without a late fee. 403 00:19:20.820 --> 00:19:21.900 The other major change, 404 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:24.420 that is the reduction of late charges, 405 00:19:24.420 --> 00:19:25.930 for the mileage fee for operators, 406 00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:28.670 but less than 50 total miles of active pipeline. 407 00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:31.170 And Karley gonna expand on that a little bit more. 408 00:19:32.060 --> 00:19:34.560 A last little bit of information I'd like to pass along, 409 00:19:34.560 --> 00:19:35.770 is not a rule change at all, 410 00:19:35.770 --> 00:19:38.713 but an enforcement of the rule is that after September 1st, 411 00:19:38.713 --> 00:19:41.330 a permit cannot be an activated or transfer, 412 00:19:41.330 --> 00:19:43.530 unless the renewal fees are paid up. 413 00:19:43.530 --> 00:19:44.890 If you haven't renewed a permit, 414 00:19:44.890 --> 00:19:46.190 and you decide to inactivate it, 415 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.180 you will need to renew it first. 416 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:51.910 Currently we don't pursue this, but after September 1st, 417 00:19:51.910 --> 00:19:55.663 we will start pursuing that as needing to be done. 418 00:19:58.270 --> 00:20:00.490 So I'm gonna discuss what needs the permit. 419 00:20:00.490 --> 00:20:01.880 And as you can see on this slide, 420 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:05.160 on the natural gas pipeline side is really easy. 421 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.230 It's all pretty much contained a hundred percent, 422 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:10.750 in 16 TAC, 3.70. 423 00:20:10.750 --> 00:20:13.900 All onshore pipeline gathering and production facilities, 424 00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:16.030 began at the first point of measurement, 425 00:20:16.030 --> 00:20:18.130 is when it needs to be permitted. 426 00:20:18.130 --> 00:20:20.840 All pipeline facilities, originating in Texas waters, 427 00:20:20.840 --> 00:20:22.520 need a permit and all pipelines, 428 00:20:22.520 --> 00:20:26.880 in a Class 2, 3 or 4 location all need a permit. 429 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:28.870 And you'll notice that there's no mention in there, 430 00:20:28.870 --> 00:20:32.280 about lease lines that has been eliminated, 431 00:20:32.280 --> 00:20:34.130 by previous rule changes. 432 00:20:34.130 --> 00:20:36.400 Lease lines did not have any influence, 433 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.880 on whether a pipeline needs a permit or not, 434 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:41.900 for the gas side is based a hundred percent, 435 00:20:41.900 --> 00:20:44.803 on when is that first point of measurement. 436 00:20:46.027 --> 00:20:49.820 On the liquid side, but important to both, 437 00:20:49.820 --> 00:20:51.310 but keep in mind that certain pipelines, 438 00:20:51.310 --> 00:20:53.150 are exempted by other rules in CFR, 439 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:56.000 from being jurisdictional, as far as safety inspections go, 440 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.020 but they're still required by the RSC to be permitted. 441 00:20:59.020 --> 00:21:01.470 So with the exception of 195.2, 442 00:21:01.470 --> 00:21:03.630 and it's referenced to production facilities, 443 00:21:03.630 --> 00:21:07.410 very few other rules in CFR might also exempt, 444 00:21:07.410 --> 00:21:09.730 then that does exempt the line from inspections, 445 00:21:09.730 --> 00:21:11.405 or reporting to the feds, 446 00:21:11.405 --> 00:21:13.620 would also typically make a permitting, 447 00:21:13.620 --> 00:21:15.470 those lines is not required. 448 00:21:15.470 --> 00:21:19.020 You can ask us if a specific line needs to be permitted, 449 00:21:19.020 --> 00:21:22.230 and we can review those details with you, 450 00:21:22.230 --> 00:21:23.960 on a case by case basis. 451 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:27.700 But again, only really only 195.2, 452 00:21:27.700 --> 00:21:31.943 will exempt a liquid line from the need to have a permit. 453 00:21:33.070 --> 00:21:34.610 And before I turn it over to Karley, 454 00:21:34.610 --> 00:21:36.417 does anybody have any questions? 455 00:21:38.315 --> 00:21:39.350 Yes first there, 456 00:21:39.350 --> 00:21:42.383 so questions still from the last one, let's see, 457 00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:46.890 let me know if you are ready to answer, 458 00:21:46.890 --> 00:21:50.840 anything on the public awareness and so on to minor 49 CFR. 459 00:21:50.840 --> 00:21:52.370 Additionally, the liquid commodities, 460 00:21:52.370 --> 00:21:55.120 would be changed from liquid to gas during a amendment. 461 00:21:56.360 --> 00:21:58.950 Yeah and I mentioned that I was gonna talk about that, 462 00:21:58.950 --> 00:22:00.660 and then I've sort of forgot that, 463 00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:05.520 but basically what happens is you cannot have gas lines, 464 00:22:05.520 --> 00:22:07.410 and liquid lines under the same permit. 465 00:22:07.410 --> 00:22:10.500 And this is because basically they're not regulated, 466 00:22:10.500 --> 00:22:11.860 under the same CFR. 467 00:22:11.860 --> 00:22:14.680 Gas is under 192 and liquids under 195. 468 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.880 So if you have a gas line that you're gonna change, 469 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.270 to a liquid service, 470 00:22:20.270 --> 00:22:21.310 then you would have to move it, 471 00:22:21.310 --> 00:22:25.750 to a completely different permit under your company name. 472 00:22:25.750 --> 00:22:29.000 So if you have gas lines and liquid lines by default, 473 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.913 you're gonna have to have two different permits, 474 00:22:30.913 --> 00:22:33.130 a gas permit and a liquid permit. 475 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:38.130 So that's not having, not being able to have gas, 476 00:22:38.700 --> 00:22:41.040 and liquids on the same permit goes along with the, 477 00:22:41.040 --> 00:22:44.350 you can't have interstate and intrastate on the same permit. 478 00:22:44.350 --> 00:22:47.240 And you also can't have private pipelines, 479 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:48.200 under the same permit, 480 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.100 where you would have either a gas utility lines, 481 00:22:51.100 --> 00:22:54.100 or on the gas side or a common carrier lines, 482 00:22:54.100 --> 00:22:55.900 on the liquid side. 483 00:22:55.900 --> 00:22:58.520 Those are things that are exempt from each other, 484 00:22:58.520 --> 00:22:59.930 and can't be on the same permit. 485 00:22:59.930 --> 00:23:02.770 Great, there's another question, 486 00:23:02.770 --> 00:23:04.510 is this one are going to be available later, 487 00:23:04.510 --> 00:23:06.100 for on demand video view? 488 00:23:06.100 --> 00:23:08.770 Yes, there will be a link on the last slide we show you, 489 00:23:08.770 --> 00:23:12.600 that shows how to get to the archive webcasts. 490 00:23:12.600 --> 00:23:13.433 Yes. 491 00:23:14.929 --> 00:23:17.690 Anything prior to meter does it need, 492 00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:21.073 to be permitting as a liquid, as a guest? 493 00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:24.720 If the only time you would have to have a permit, 494 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.260 for a line before the meter, 495 00:23:26.260 --> 00:23:28.380 is if it's in the water like offshore, 496 00:23:28.380 --> 00:23:31.210 or if it's in Class 2, 3 or 4 location, 497 00:23:31.210 --> 00:23:33.293 if it's in Class 1 location, 498 00:23:35.100 --> 00:23:37.663 the lines before the meter are flow lines. 499 00:23:38.957 --> 00:23:40.890 Yeah, the next question is, 500 00:23:40.890 --> 00:23:42.775 is it referring to Bruce's explanation 501 00:23:42.775 --> 00:23:46.653 of full dream meet a gathering versus gathering? 502 00:23:47.800 --> 00:23:50.350 Yeah and I did answer that question a little bit online, 503 00:23:50.350 --> 00:23:51.183 but I can tell you, 504 00:23:51.183 --> 00:23:52.720 I wanna go ahead and a little bit more on that, 505 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.190 basically gas flow wellstream or, 506 00:23:56.190 --> 00:23:59.390 crude oil wellstream is just implying that, 507 00:23:59.390 --> 00:24:01.810 or letting us know that you're aware, 508 00:24:01.810 --> 00:24:03.530 that there's other things that are in the pipeline, 509 00:24:03.530 --> 00:24:06.590 besides the commodity that you're out there for. 510 00:24:06.590 --> 00:24:08.720 So I've always kind of said that, you know, 511 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:12.690 for example, I could have a gas line that has liquids in it, 512 00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:13.910 and, but I'm gonna call it. 513 00:24:13.910 --> 00:24:16.100 I'm gonna some liquids like NGLs or crude, 514 00:24:16.100 --> 00:24:19.240 or just whatever goop whatever is coming out of the well, 515 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:20.620 it's full flow stream. 516 00:24:20.620 --> 00:24:22.610 I can have a gas full flow stream line, 517 00:24:22.610 --> 00:24:24.773 that has the exact same amount of natural gas in it. 518 00:24:24.773 --> 00:24:27.270 As somebody else who's out there for crude, 519 00:24:27.270 --> 00:24:29.892 you know, he has a crude oil, and his main reason for, 520 00:24:29.892 --> 00:24:33.880 for producing any commodity is he's after the crude. 521 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.840 And he would call his crude oil stream, 522 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:37.500 even though he might have just as much gas, 523 00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:39.160 in his crude oil stream, 524 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.510 as a natural gas operator might have crude gas, 525 00:24:42.510 --> 00:24:43.370 and the airline. 526 00:24:43.370 --> 00:24:45.240 So that what I say is as if, 527 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.840 whatever it is that, the well is supposed to be producing, 528 00:24:47.840 --> 00:24:49.990 or whatever the commodity is that you were, 529 00:24:51.210 --> 00:24:52.210 pulling out of that, well, 530 00:24:52.210 --> 00:24:54.000 you should consider yourself a gas. 531 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:54.980 If you're a gas operator, 532 00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:56.410 you should call it gas full wellstream. 533 00:24:56.410 --> 00:24:57.500 If you're a crude operator, 534 00:24:57.500 --> 00:24:59.370 you should call it crude full wellstream, 535 00:24:59.370 --> 00:25:01.890 but you're not telling us how much of this extra stuff, 536 00:25:01.890 --> 00:25:02.723 is in there. 537 00:25:02.723 --> 00:25:03.950 You're just acknowledging to us, 538 00:25:03.950 --> 00:25:06.400 that there is stuff in the pipeline, 539 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:07.850 other than what it is that you're out there for, 540 00:25:07.850 --> 00:25:08.863 in the first place. 541 00:25:09.800 --> 00:25:12.290 Gas full wellstream and crude full wellstream, 542 00:25:12.290 --> 00:25:13.610 don't have anything to do with, 543 00:25:13.610 --> 00:25:14.900 whether you need a permit or not. 544 00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:17.890 Again, that gets back to in the gas side, 545 00:25:17.890 --> 00:25:20.510 where once it's metered, it has to have a permit. 546 00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:22.810 And on the liquid side, again, 547 00:25:22.810 --> 00:25:26.900 if it's a production full line based on 195.2, 548 00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:27.950 then it doesn't need a permit, 549 00:25:27.950 --> 00:25:29.700 but everything else needs a permit. 550 00:25:32.750 --> 00:25:35.020 Perfect, let's see what else, 551 00:25:35.020 --> 00:25:37.650 we are asking if liquid gas on same permit, 552 00:25:37.650 --> 00:25:40.900 but amendment slash change a currently with commodity, 553 00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:43.270 to gas, commodity, and merging that changes, 554 00:25:43.270 --> 00:25:45.820 in existing gas permit. 555 00:25:45.820 --> 00:25:47.173 You answered all that. 556 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.830 I believe I did, I think the question is, 557 00:25:51.830 --> 00:25:53.829 can you have gas and liquid on the side? 558 00:25:53.829 --> 00:25:54.880 The answer is no. 559 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.180 Okay it seems to be receding. 560 00:25:57.180 --> 00:25:59.593 Does that include gas, lift lines. 561 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.000 Gas lift lines, gas gathering lines, 562 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.210 gas transmission lines. 563 00:26:05.210 --> 00:26:06.560 Anything that if it's a gas line, 564 00:26:06.560 --> 00:26:08.063 it can be on the same permit. 565 00:26:08.910 --> 00:26:12.870 And so whatever its function in the gas on the gas side, 566 00:26:12.870 --> 00:26:15.070 or whatever the function is on the liquid side, 567 00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:17.110 all of those things can be on the same permit. 568 00:26:17.110 --> 00:26:19.570 I'm not exactly sure if that's exactly what they asked, 569 00:26:19.570 --> 00:26:23.460 but any function of crude, the movement of crude, 570 00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:25.990 or movement of any kind of liquid commodity, 571 00:26:25.990 --> 00:26:28.800 all of those different things can be whether it's regulated 572 00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:29.633 or not regulated. 573 00:26:29.633 --> 00:26:30.990 In other words, if we do inspections, 574 00:26:30.990 --> 00:26:32.080 or don't do inspections, 575 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:33.920 all those things can be on the same permit. 576 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.320 As long as the commodity that you're out there for, 577 00:26:36.320 --> 00:26:40.620 in the first place is the same thing. 578 00:26:40.620 --> 00:26:41.690 Okay, great. 579 00:26:41.690 --> 00:26:42.907 And let's see the next question. 580 00:26:42.907 --> 00:26:45.820 For liquid pipeline subject to US Coast Guard, 581 00:26:45.820 --> 00:26:49.060 exempt per 195.1, 582 00:26:49.060 --> 00:26:52.133 are these pipelines exempt from T-4 requirements. 583 00:26:53.870 --> 00:26:55.570 If you're regulated by the Coast Guard, 584 00:26:55.570 --> 00:26:57.720 then I, they don't need, they don't, 585 00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:59.700 they're not regulated by the Texas Railroad Commission. 586 00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:00.870 They don't need a permit, 587 00:27:00.870 --> 00:27:03.493 and they don't they're not inspected by us. 588 00:27:05.518 --> 00:27:08.360 Can you clarify your previous slide, 589 00:27:08.360 --> 00:27:12.470 that says only Class 2, 3 and 4 needed permitting? 590 00:27:12.470 --> 00:27:15.080 Would that bullet point be limited to gathering, 591 00:27:15.080 --> 00:27:18.310 otherwise, as you're saying Class 1 transition, 592 00:27:18.310 --> 00:27:19.510 doesn't need permitting? 593 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:21.920 No what I was trying to say that, 594 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.030 is if you have a otherwise flow line, 595 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:27.570 or say if you had a Well in a, in an urban area, 596 00:27:27.570 --> 00:27:29.310 at a Class 2 location, 597 00:27:29.310 --> 00:27:32.480 then that pipeline has gone going to be, 598 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.420 a need to be permitted from the second, 599 00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:36.670 at that at the very beginning point, 600 00:27:36.670 --> 00:27:39.410 you might have a meter that's a hundred yards down the line 601 00:27:39.410 --> 00:27:41.060 or a quarter mile, whatever. 602 00:27:41.060 --> 00:27:42.690 I mean, that's not like in a Class 2, 603 00:27:42.690 --> 00:27:44.850 but it doesn't matter where the meter is. 604 00:27:44.850 --> 00:27:46.180 If you're in a Class 2 location, 605 00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:47.890 the entire thing has to be permitted, 606 00:27:47.890 --> 00:27:50.950 not just the part that from the meter, 607 00:27:50.950 --> 00:27:54.460 on obviously transmission lines, anything, 608 00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:57.510 those all need to be permitted and they're also inspected. 609 00:27:57.510 --> 00:27:59.784 But what I was referring to for Class 2 and 3, 610 00:27:59.784 --> 00:28:03.560 2, 3, and 4 means that supersedes, 611 00:28:03.560 --> 00:28:05.000 whether or not there's a meter there, 612 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.540 everything that's in a Class 2 or 3 or 4, 613 00:28:07.540 --> 00:28:08.603 has to have a permit. 614 00:28:09.570 --> 00:28:11.930 Great, and the last question is, 615 00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:14.080 does this rule apply to carbon capture, 616 00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:16.413 and sequestration pipelines? 617 00:28:20.473 --> 00:28:22.170 I really don't know the answer to that, 618 00:28:22.170 --> 00:28:24.000 perhaps maybe Stephanie could help me with that, 619 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.173 I'm not exactly sure. 620 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.610 We'll get the, if that sort of written answer, 621 00:28:30.610 --> 00:28:32.920 a question we'll get, we'll make sure we get the answer 622 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:33.753 at some point. 623 00:28:33.753 --> 00:28:35.620 I'm not as sure though. 624 00:28:35.620 --> 00:28:36.453 We'll leave it at that one, 625 00:28:36.453 --> 00:28:38.200 the first, the next question. 626 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:43.200 So, okay I guess that is all that. 627 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.150 We will continue our webinar Karley, 628 00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:50.610 we're ready when you are. 629 00:28:50.610 --> 00:28:51.923 Bruce can you stop share. 630 00:28:57.340 --> 00:29:00.000 Hello everybody my name is Karley Bisbano. 631 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.570 I am a permit specialist working under pipeline safety, 632 00:29:03.570 --> 00:29:05.550 and I have been with the commission, 633 00:29:05.550 --> 00:29:07.810 for just over a year now. 634 00:29:07.810 --> 00:29:09.530 I'm gonna kind of go into depth, 635 00:29:09.530 --> 00:29:12.223 on some of those points that Bruce mentioned, 636 00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:16.950 how 3.70 has affected the mileage late fees, 637 00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:19.220 as well as the renewals. 638 00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:22.760 Before I do get too far into the late fees, 639 00:29:22.760 --> 00:29:24.910 I did wanna give you guys a general overview, 640 00:29:24.910 --> 00:29:26.893 of the mileage fees themselves. 641 00:29:28.420 --> 00:29:30.400 So the mileage fees are calculated, 642 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.840 by the mileage of each permit on December 31st, 643 00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:35.520 of the prior year. 644 00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:38.530 And that operator is responsible to pay that fee, 645 00:29:38.530 --> 00:29:39.930 by April 1st. 646 00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:43.180 So to break that down the mileage fee this year, 647 00:29:43.180 --> 00:29:47.570 was due April 1st, 2020, whatever you had on your permit, 648 00:29:47.570 --> 00:29:50.500 December 31st of 2019, 649 00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:52.500 that is where we're pulling your miles from. 650 00:29:52.500 --> 00:29:55.480 So if any changes or amendments were made, 651 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.856 after the end of 2019, 652 00:29:57.856 --> 00:30:00.500 they won't be seen in your mileage fee, 653 00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:03.903 we're pulling just from that end of the 2018 timeframe. 654 00:30:05.070 --> 00:30:08.070 So, as I mentioned, the due date for mileage fees, 655 00:30:08.070 --> 00:30:09.840 is April 1st. 656 00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:13.320 That said you do have anywhere after the first of the year 657 00:30:13.320 --> 00:30:14.880 to submit that payment, 658 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.220 you'll see that become available in your pop system. 659 00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:20.010 And it'll be on the left side of your screen. 660 00:30:20.010 --> 00:30:23.880 There will be a small option that says pay mileage fee. 661 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:25.220 Once you get that paid, 662 00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:28.640 it'll gray out and it won't be an option anymore. 663 00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.300 So since you have part a few months, 664 00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:33.990 to get that mileage fee payment, and before April 1st, 665 00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:36.660 if you can, it's always going to knock it out early, 666 00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:40.923 and avoid any mileage late fees that you would run into. 667 00:30:42.770 --> 00:30:45.540 So another note is the mileage fees are paid, 668 00:30:45.540 --> 00:30:48.850 at the P-5 operator level with one payment. 669 00:30:48.850 --> 00:30:52.307 What that means is if you have 10 T-4 permits, 670 00:30:52.307 --> 00:30:55.260 you're not going to have to submit 10 different payments. 671 00:30:55.260 --> 00:30:57.360 We're going to do that math for you, 672 00:30:57.360 --> 00:31:01.000 out of all of your miles, we'll take that final number, 673 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:03.310 we're gonna round it up to the nearest whole number. 674 00:31:03.310 --> 00:31:05.070 And that is what we're going to be using, 675 00:31:05.070 --> 00:31:06.613 to calculate your mileage. 676 00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:14.750 So the mileage fees are broken into two different groups, 677 00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:17.180 group A and group B. 678 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:20.890 Group A miles are going to be at $20 per mile. 679 00:31:20.890 --> 00:31:24.780 And these are going to include the federally regulated, 680 00:31:24.780 --> 00:31:27.400 and RRC inspected pipelines. 681 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.317 And then those group B miles are going to be, 682 00:31:30.317 --> 00:31:32.380 only $10 per mile. 683 00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:34.220 And they're basically going to be everything, 684 00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:38.890 that is not regulated, but still needs to be on that T-4, 685 00:31:38.890 --> 00:31:41.893 so that might include a cost one gathering line. 686 00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:50.040 So now we'll get into how the 3.70 rule change, 687 00:31:50.040 --> 00:31:54.170 has affected the mileage late fees themselves. 688 00:31:54.170 --> 00:31:56.630 So if you'll look at the bottom of this chart, 689 00:31:56.630 --> 00:32:00.480 that's going to reflect what the late fee structure was, 690 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.550 before we had this rule change. 691 00:32:02.550 --> 00:32:05.060 So if you were late on your mileage fee, 692 00:32:05.060 --> 00:32:08.270 and you had to submit a late fee was your payment, 693 00:32:08.270 --> 00:32:11.490 it would be either 250, 500 or $700, 694 00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:14.463 depending on how late your payment is. 695 00:32:15.340 --> 00:32:16.740 Something that has changed, 696 00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:19.170 if you look at the top of the chart is now, 697 00:32:19.170 --> 00:32:22.270 if you have 50 miles or less, 698 00:32:22.270 --> 00:32:25.750 those late fees are going to be essentially cut in half. 699 00:32:25.750 --> 00:32:28.030 So if you're under 30 days late, 700 00:32:28.030 --> 00:32:33.030 it will be 125, 250 moving to 350. 701 00:32:33.340 --> 00:32:36.210 So again, just as a note here, 702 00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.620 let's say you only have two or three miles of wine. 703 00:32:39.620 --> 00:32:43.310 It really wouldn't be great to be stuck with $350 late fee. 704 00:32:43.310 --> 00:32:46.980 So if you can get those submitted before April 1st, 705 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.883 definitely set yourself a calendar reminder and get that in. 706 00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:58.640 So rule change data set fee the renewals a bit, 707 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.183 and we'll get into that now. 708 00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:06.490 So the, this will go into effect September 1st. 709 00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:08.880 And what is essentially happening is that, 710 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.230 all of your permits are going to, 711 00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:14.160 from now on have the same expiration date, 712 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.970 for future renewables. 713 00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:18.240 So what this means is is right now, 714 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.700 if you have 20 permits and they all have different 715 00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:23.760 expiration dates scattered throughout the year, 716 00:33:23.760 --> 00:33:26.130 moving into 2021, you're gonna see those fall, 717 00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:28.720 into the same month, just to make them easier, 718 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.350 to keep track of and hopefully to avoid late fees, 719 00:33:32.350 --> 00:33:34.800 on renewables and whatnot as well. 720 00:33:34.800 --> 00:33:37.380 And something about that, one of the reasons, 721 00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:39.280 we're doing this is that the renewals, 722 00:33:39.280 --> 00:33:41.870 are now going to fall into the same calendar, 723 00:33:41.870 --> 00:33:43.540 and fiscal year. 724 00:33:43.540 --> 00:33:45.250 I'm gonna go into this in the next slide, 725 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:47.130 but we're now having those scheduled, 726 00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:49.603 between February and July. 727 00:33:52.890 --> 00:33:54.490 So now you'll see here, 728 00:33:54.490 --> 00:33:59.490 the new structure for what renewal month you'll be assigned. 729 00:33:59.570 --> 00:34:01.650 So, as I just mentioned, 730 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:04.080 it is going through February through July, 731 00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:08.500 and it's going by the first letter of your operator name. 732 00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:11.200 So if you are ABC oil, 733 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:15.300 that means that you're going to have to file in February. 734 00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:18.850 And I think Bruce mentioned this as well, 735 00:34:18.850 --> 00:34:20.790 but you will have a two month period, 736 00:34:20.790 --> 00:34:22.640 to get your renewals in. 737 00:34:22.640 --> 00:34:25.870 So if you file, you're scheduled to file in February, 738 00:34:25.870 --> 00:34:28.230 you'll have all of January and all of February, 739 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:30.163 to get those renewables submitted. 740 00:34:31.290 --> 00:34:33.010 So as a note, 741 00:34:33.010 --> 00:34:37.740 if you currently have a permit that is scheduled to expire 742 00:34:37.740 --> 00:34:40.717 or needs renewal any time after September 1st, 743 00:34:40.717 --> 00:34:43.160 to the end of 2020, 744 00:34:43.160 --> 00:34:46.990 what's going to happen is we're automatically going to, 745 00:34:46.990 --> 00:34:48.090 as of September 1st, 746 00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:50.160 we're going to bump that renewal date, 747 00:34:50.160 --> 00:34:54.240 to your new assigned month that you'll see, you know, 748 00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:56.670 pick out from this chart here will do it automatically, 749 00:34:56.670 --> 00:34:59.223 you'll just see the update done in POPS. 750 00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:02.060 Something else to note is, 751 00:35:02.060 --> 00:35:04.620 if you do have one of these renewables, 752 00:35:04.620 --> 00:35:06.660 that's going to be due between September, 753 00:35:06.660 --> 00:35:07.970 and the end of the year. 754 00:35:07.970 --> 00:35:10.450 If you've already taken care of that renewal, 755 00:35:10.450 --> 00:35:13.770 and it's been submitted, approved and paid and whatnot, 756 00:35:13.770 --> 00:35:15.000 whenever you look into POPS, 757 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.140 you'll see that your expiration or renewal date, 758 00:35:18.140 --> 00:35:20.803 will be bumped to the 2022 timeframe. 759 00:35:26.790 --> 00:35:28.900 So any permits that are due for renewal, 760 00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:30.820 between September 1st and December 31st, 761 00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:32.570 will automatically have the new renewal date, 762 00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:35.150 moved to the new assignments in 2021. 763 00:35:35.150 --> 00:35:37.250 And that's just explaining what I just mention, 764 00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:39.323 so we can go to the next slide please. 765 00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.010 One other change is when you will be paying, 766 00:35:45.010 --> 00:35:47.990 that $500 renewal fee. 767 00:35:47.990 --> 00:35:51.360 So before this rule change, you paid the $500 fee. 768 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.490 If you were applying for a new permit, 769 00:35:53.490 --> 00:35:55.950 or if you were renewing your current permit, 770 00:35:55.950 --> 00:35:58.810 that is going to stay the same, 771 00:35:58.810 --> 00:36:01.270 what is going to be different now is, 772 00:36:01.270 --> 00:36:04.190 if you have a full transfer, 773 00:36:04.190 --> 00:36:06.950 and you were the acquiring operator, 774 00:36:06.950 --> 00:36:10.900 and you decided to keep that permit and not change it, 775 00:36:10.900 --> 00:36:11.950 and not merge it or anything. 776 00:36:11.950 --> 00:36:13.620 And you're going to keep that permit number, 777 00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:16.190 that you've acquired from the divesting operator, 778 00:36:16.190 --> 00:36:18.180 upon acquisition of that new permit, 779 00:36:18.180 --> 00:36:19.510 that was transferred to you. 780 00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:24.510 You will have to pay a $500 renewal processing for you. 781 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.830 Now, some detail on that is, 782 00:36:27.830 --> 00:36:30.630 when we moved to this new renewal structure. 783 00:36:30.630 --> 00:36:34.540 If you acquire a permit in February, 784 00:36:34.540 --> 00:36:36.070 and you say, I'm gonna keep the permit, 785 00:36:36.070 --> 00:36:39.050 I'm gonna pay the $500 processing fee. 786 00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.670 If your renewal date is scheduled for March, 787 00:36:42.670 --> 00:36:43.980 and you just got this new product, 788 00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:46.730 that you just paid, that $500 fee on, 789 00:36:46.730 --> 00:36:48.710 you're not going to have to renew it again in March. 790 00:36:48.710 --> 00:36:52.100 It'll be all set for that calendar year, 791 00:36:52.100 --> 00:36:53.740 and you won't have to renew it again, 792 00:36:53.740 --> 00:36:56.483 until the next renewal month rolls around. 793 00:37:01.410 --> 00:37:05.380 And then I did want to leave you with quick facts and tips 794 00:37:05.380 --> 00:37:06.660 about renewals in general. 795 00:37:06.660 --> 00:37:08.600 Just things to really keep in mind. 796 00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:12.360 Whenever you're doing that POPS submission work, 797 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.800 a big one is the amendments do not renew your permit. 798 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.700 If you have to take care of a renewal and amendment, 799 00:37:18.700 --> 00:37:20.040 in the same time, period, 800 00:37:20.040 --> 00:37:22.340 just know they are separate actions, 801 00:37:22.340 --> 00:37:24.643 and they both need to be done separately. 802 00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:31.070 Another thing is that if you do have an interstate permit, 803 00:37:31.070 --> 00:37:35.310 just know that you won't have to pay these $500 fees. 804 00:37:35.310 --> 00:37:38.170 And you also also won't have the mileage fee, 805 00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:41.320 applied to your permits. 806 00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.600 And then a really big one here, lastly, 807 00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:46.680 if you have a permit renewal that's due within a month, 808 00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:48.480 and you also have an amendment, 809 00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.700 or some other work to get done, 810 00:37:50.700 --> 00:37:53.410 just know you really need to submit that renewal, 811 00:37:53.410 --> 00:37:55.730 before you do your amendment. 812 00:37:55.730 --> 00:37:59.210 And we say that because by law, 813 00:37:59.210 --> 00:38:03.020 we have 30 days in our queue to review your submission, 814 00:38:03.020 --> 00:38:06.390 and get it approved or rejected and returned back to you. 815 00:38:06.390 --> 00:38:08.030 And as a lot of you probably know, 816 00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:11.070 you can only do one action at a time in POPS. 817 00:38:11.070 --> 00:38:12.450 If you send over an amendment, 818 00:38:12.450 --> 00:38:15.230 and let's say it takes us 20 days to do, 819 00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:17.420 if your renewal expiration date, 820 00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:19.290 passes during that time. 821 00:38:19.290 --> 00:38:20.660 And you get back to your permit, 822 00:38:20.660 --> 00:38:22.340 and you're trying to renew it, 823 00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:24.500 you know, going to be stuck with a late fee. 824 00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:29.010 So when in doubt, renew first and you ever make a mistake, 825 00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:30.630 can you submit an amendment first. 826 00:38:30.630 --> 00:38:33.990 You can always ask us to reject it for you to send it back 827 00:38:33.990 --> 00:38:35.410 so you can do your renewal, 828 00:38:35.410 --> 00:38:37.110 and then move into that amendment. 829 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.580 And I believe that is my last slide. 830 00:38:40.580 --> 00:38:44.361 So before I hand it over, do we have any questions? 831 00:38:44.361 --> 00:38:47.130 Yes Karley there's a couple, 832 00:38:47.130 --> 00:38:50.493 is how is operator name selected according to the P-5? 833 00:38:52.680 --> 00:38:55.810 How is the operator named selected by the P-5? 834 00:38:55.810 --> 00:38:59.420 Yes, it is going by your PS5 operator name. 835 00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:02.060 So whatever you have submitted on your P-5, 836 00:39:02.060 --> 00:39:03.960 the first letter of that operator name, 837 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.728 will be how we're assigning, you were a renewable ones. 838 00:39:07.728 --> 00:39:10.930 And you had a question to see if we have a transfer, 839 00:39:10.930 --> 00:39:14.050 in September to December 2020 period. 840 00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:16.490 Do we pay the renewal at the time of the transfer, 841 00:39:16.490 --> 00:39:19.483 or do we pay in 2021 that are designated. 842 00:39:22.040 --> 00:39:25.650 So for a September 1st and I'll have my colleague step in, 843 00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:29.260 if I have this wrong after September 1st, 844 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:30.950 if you have a transfer, 845 00:39:30.950 --> 00:39:35.290 if your renewal or your permit is expired, 846 00:39:35.290 --> 00:39:38.330 you will be, I believe you will be required, 847 00:39:38.330 --> 00:39:43.330 to take, oh, actually, since we're bumping into 2021, right. 848 00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:45.260 Do you have thoughts on this? 849 00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:47.210 I haven't thought about this situation. 850 00:39:48.450 --> 00:39:50.170 I can take this one. 851 00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:54.920 So have you ever transfer from September to December, 852 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.520 assuming that you are in compliance with zero late fees. 853 00:39:58.520 --> 00:40:01.670 You will still pay that upon transfer. 854 00:40:01.670 --> 00:40:05.440 And then so if the transfer took place this year, 855 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.070 and say October of 2020, 856 00:40:09.070 --> 00:40:12.300 you'll pay upon transfer and then you won't pay, 857 00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:16.453 the renewal again until your designated months of 2022. 858 00:40:17.700 --> 00:40:22.700 So you pay money transfer and then the next fiscal year, 859 00:40:22.970 --> 00:40:25.250 as a way that you would pay for us to fiscal years, 860 00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:28.080 is from September 1st to August 31st. 861 00:40:33.310 --> 00:40:34.800 Thank you Ryan. 862 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.745 Where there any other questions? 863 00:40:36.745 --> 00:40:38.540 No, that's all the questions, 864 00:40:38.540 --> 00:40:40.153 I guess we'll continue our webinar, 865 00:40:40.153 --> 00:40:41.653 Ryan we're ready when you are. 866 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:45.330 Good afternoon, everyone. 867 00:40:45.330 --> 00:40:46.600 My name is Ryan Hejl. 868 00:40:46.600 --> 00:40:50.710 I am the team lead for the pipeline and permitting, 869 00:40:50.710 --> 00:40:54.030 and mapping section and oversight and safety. 870 00:40:54.030 --> 00:40:56.540 And I'll be going over a new action in POPS, 871 00:40:56.540 --> 00:40:59.493 and a new code in JS as well for a transfer merge. 872 00:41:00.630 --> 00:41:02.260 It's for full transfers only. 873 00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:05.793 And it's only on the acquiring side for the operator. 874 00:41:09.160 --> 00:41:13.570 So when a full transfer takes place the divesting side, 875 00:41:13.570 --> 00:41:16.010 the students submitted divesting transfer action, 876 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:17.543 just like it is currently. 877 00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:20.670 But now on the acquiring side, 878 00:41:20.670 --> 00:41:23.623 there's only two options for the acquiring operator. 879 00:41:24.520 --> 00:41:26.170 They can keep the permit number, 880 00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:28.623 and file an acquiring full transfer, 881 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.030 or they'll be able to file a new action transfer merge, 882 00:41:33.030 --> 00:41:37.230 and immediately merge all the pipelines from the permit, 883 00:41:37.230 --> 00:41:41.210 they're requiring into an existing permit of the same type. 884 00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:44.770 The gas has to go into gas and liquid has to go into liquid. 885 00:41:44.770 --> 00:41:48.810 If by chance you are having a transferring lines, 886 00:41:48.810 --> 00:41:52.570 and they're going from gas, so liquid go from liquid to gas, 887 00:41:52.570 --> 00:41:55.860 reach out to us when it's happening and we'll work with you, 888 00:41:55.860 --> 00:41:58.670 to get those transferred over correctly, 889 00:41:58.670 --> 00:42:01.420 and not have any duplicates in the mapping or anything. 890 00:42:04.067 --> 00:42:07.060 Remember if you wanna keep the permit number, 891 00:42:07.060 --> 00:42:12.060 you're gonna be paying the renewal fee of permit transfer, 892 00:42:13.080 --> 00:42:15.030 but you have to go to the divesting side, 893 00:42:15.030 --> 00:42:17.360 and do there is we're gonna review it. 894 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.530 And if we approve it, 895 00:42:19.530 --> 00:42:21.070 that permits get moved under, 896 00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:23.590 to the acquiring operator's dashboard, 897 00:42:23.590 --> 00:42:25.460 and you can click on actions, 898 00:42:25.460 --> 00:42:27.963 and set the acquiring for transfer, 899 00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:32.310 and then they would attach the cover letter, 900 00:42:32.310 --> 00:42:36.080 and the T4B no mappings needed, 901 00:42:36.080 --> 00:42:37.370 if you're keeping the permit number, 902 00:42:37.370 --> 00:42:39.483 and we will review that transfer, 903 00:42:39.483 --> 00:42:42.900 and approve it and move it, move it over. 904 00:42:44.570 --> 00:42:48.820 If you're going to do a merge, the transfer permit, 905 00:42:50.333 --> 00:42:54.331 the divesting operator is still going to submit it. 906 00:42:54.331 --> 00:42:56.670 We'll review it and approve it. 907 00:42:56.670 --> 00:42:59.160 And then on the permit that you already have, 908 00:42:59.160 --> 00:43:00.567 not the permanent, it was transferred to you. 909 00:43:00.567 --> 00:43:02.660 You would click on actions, 910 00:43:02.660 --> 00:43:05.553 and select acquire transfer merge. 911 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.853 And then once that's through, 912 00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:14.090 if you do a wire transfer merged, 913 00:43:14.090 --> 00:43:16.165 it will not be an extra renewal fee, 914 00:43:16.165 --> 00:43:17.689 if you pay them on a transfer, 915 00:43:17.689 --> 00:43:19.168 and you'll pay for the renewal, 916 00:43:19.168 --> 00:43:21.018 for the permit that you already have. 917 00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:24.153 Next slide. 918 00:43:25.940 --> 00:43:27.720 So what do you do with transfer merge? 919 00:43:27.720 --> 00:43:30.450 You can do more full permits at the same time, 920 00:43:30.450 --> 00:43:33.850 from multiple operators, or even from the same operator. 921 00:43:33.850 --> 00:43:37.440 When you still like the option at the bottom of the permit 922 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.580 to have on the first page, 923 00:43:39.580 --> 00:43:42.493 there you'll have a list of all the permits, 924 00:43:42.493 --> 00:43:45.450 that you can transfer and merge into the permit, 925 00:43:45.450 --> 00:43:46.543 that you selected. 926 00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:51.730 You'll enter the, the effective data transfer, 927 00:43:51.730 --> 00:43:55.670 which needs to match whether the wrestling operator, 928 00:43:55.670 --> 00:43:58.570 put on their side so we can link them together. 929 00:43:58.570 --> 00:43:59.410 You know, once you do that, 930 00:43:59.410 --> 00:44:01.503 you'll be able to just select all the permits, 931 00:44:02.680 --> 00:44:04.290 that you would like transferred into this permit. 932 00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:06.983 And they'll show up on the list over below there. 933 00:44:09.450 --> 00:44:12.220 Like I said, this action is only for full permits, 934 00:44:12.220 --> 00:44:13.593 that are being transferred. 935 00:44:14.770 --> 00:44:19.470 If they're being transferred in a liquid to gas, 936 00:44:19.470 --> 00:44:23.010 or gas to liquid, or if you have permits, 937 00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:25.200 that you're trying to merge together, 938 00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:27.490 you'll get a warning saying that you can't, 939 00:44:27.490 --> 00:44:29.640 there's no permits here for you to transfer merge, 940 00:44:29.640 --> 00:44:31.993 and the system will not let you proceed. 941 00:44:33.810 --> 00:44:36.350 If you are trying to emerge your own permits together, 942 00:44:36.350 --> 00:44:37.490 that's still done the old way, 943 00:44:37.490 --> 00:44:39.353 you need a man to the permit you wanna keep, 944 00:44:39.353 --> 00:44:42.080 I'll show all that in the mapping, 945 00:44:42.080 --> 00:44:47.080 and then you will need to inactivate the permits, 946 00:44:47.130 --> 00:44:49.320 that you were being merging into, 947 00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:50.610 the one that you're keeping. 948 00:44:50.610 --> 00:44:52.920 Or transfer merge the inactivation, 949 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.100 has to be done by the system. 950 00:44:55.100 --> 00:44:57.020 And also for the transfer merge, 951 00:44:57.020 --> 00:44:59.640 we're gonna need a cover letter T4B, 952 00:44:59.640 --> 00:45:02.093 and we'll need the mapping for that. 953 00:45:02.093 --> 00:45:03.570 Before the mapping for the permits, 954 00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:07.280 you're acquiring through the transfer that coded with TM. 955 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.520 And then for the lines that are already, 956 00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:12.573 under the existing permits would be NC for no change. 957 00:45:14.690 --> 00:45:15.740 Any questions so far. 958 00:45:17.890 --> 00:45:20.430 There's one question as a permit, 959 00:45:20.430 --> 00:45:23.690 was renewed recently, but some permits are playing, 960 00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:26.300 he merged into the review permit. 961 00:45:26.300 --> 00:45:30.250 Are there any costs associated with those unrenewed permits 962 00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:34.837 that were, are merging into the other renewed? 963 00:45:34.837 --> 00:45:36.754 What does the inactive, 964 00:45:38.055 --> 00:45:40.770 when does the inactive of the merged permits, 965 00:45:40.770 --> 00:45:42.663 have to be have to take place? 966 00:45:44.200 --> 00:45:45.540 So this was kind of, it goes back, 967 00:45:45.540 --> 00:45:48.520 to what Bruce was talking about as well. 968 00:45:48.520 --> 00:45:50.930 Since you have to inactivate the permit, 969 00:45:50.930 --> 00:45:55.693 as a part of this merge process, you can, 970 00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:01.660 open to a September 1st there is no fees with it. 971 00:46:01.660 --> 00:46:06.277 If the permits are merging into your existing permit, 972 00:46:07.890 --> 00:46:09.200 are expired. 973 00:46:09.200 --> 00:46:11.560 We're not gonna pursue those after September 1st, 974 00:46:11.560 --> 00:46:13.300 the system's actually gonna block you, 975 00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:17.103 from an activating that permit until the fees are paid. 976 00:46:19.270 --> 00:46:22.730 So right now you can do it for about another month, 977 00:46:22.730 --> 00:46:23.660 three weeks or so. 978 00:46:23.660 --> 00:46:24.680 And then September 1st, 979 00:46:24.680 --> 00:46:26.800 the system's actually gonna stop you from doing that, 980 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.653 until all the permits are occurring. 981 00:46:30.720 --> 00:46:34.043 And I believe there was another part of that question, 982 00:46:34.043 --> 00:46:34.876 as well. 983 00:46:44.230 --> 00:46:45.940 So when does it have to take place, 984 00:46:45.940 --> 00:46:48.750 in that you would be submitted on the same day? 985 00:46:48.750 --> 00:46:52.770 So the amendment and the inactivation need to be submitted 986 00:46:52.770 --> 00:46:54.930 as close as you can, to the same time. 987 00:46:54.930 --> 00:46:56.660 So that when we review both permit, 988 00:46:56.660 --> 00:46:58.210 we see, they're both in there. 989 00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:00.250 We know there's not gonna be duplicates, 990 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:01.800 and then we'll issue them both. 991 00:47:03.590 --> 00:47:05.867 Are there any other questions? 992 00:47:07.170 --> 00:47:09.213 There aren't any other questions at this time. 993 00:47:11.627 --> 00:47:12.980 Are we ready to continue? 994 00:47:12.980 --> 00:47:15.433 And Chris, we're ready when you are. 995 00:47:20.790 --> 00:47:21.623 Hey everyone. 996 00:47:21.623 --> 00:47:25.460 My name is Chris Vincent and I am a GIS specialist, 997 00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:27.740 with the pipeline mapping team. 998 00:47:27.740 --> 00:47:30.350 And I am going to be to you all about, 999 00:47:30.350 --> 00:47:32.440 the mapping updates and how this new code, 1000 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.563 will affect that. 1001 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.200 So a little overview, 1002 00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:38.800 we're going to be talking about, 1003 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.820 this new transfer merge function, 1004 00:47:40.820 --> 00:47:41.870 and how that affects, 1005 00:47:41.870 --> 00:47:44.310 how you're gonna prepare your shapefiles. 1006 00:47:44.310 --> 00:47:47.020 We also have created a new document. 1007 00:47:47.020 --> 00:47:50.380 I'm gonna go over that and also talking about, 1008 00:47:50.380 --> 00:47:53.690 some of the common mistakes we see on shapefile submissions 1009 00:47:53.690 --> 00:47:56.020 to address some of that, 1010 00:47:56.020 --> 00:47:58.363 and wrapping up with a little mapping demo. 1011 00:47:59.830 --> 00:48:01.900 So what is transfer merge? 1012 00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:04.290 Ryan was talking about this, 1013 00:48:04.290 --> 00:48:09.090 but it's basically a new way for the acquiring operator, 1014 00:48:09.090 --> 00:48:12.190 to acquire pipeline during a transfer. 1015 00:48:12.190 --> 00:48:14.710 So let's go over the similarities and differences here, 1016 00:48:14.710 --> 00:48:16.083 in the next few slides. 1017 00:48:17.970 --> 00:48:21.580 This is the new code that is in that new document, 1018 00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:23.450 a guide to shapefile submissions. 1019 00:48:23.450 --> 00:48:27.110 And this is basically saying, okay, transfer merge, 1020 00:48:27.110 --> 00:48:31.900 we're describing it as a full permit transfer plus a merge. 1021 00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:34.330 So if you can imagine as the acquiring operator, 1022 00:48:34.330 --> 00:48:37.120 you will take the entirety of somebody else's permit, 1023 00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:40.103 and then you'll drop it into one of your existing permits. 1024 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.570 So these are the two functions that we're talking about, 1025 00:48:46.570 --> 00:48:49.530 in POPS the full transfer and the transfer merge. 1026 00:48:49.530 --> 00:48:50.660 So the full transfers, 1027 00:48:50.660 --> 00:48:53.500 is the old way to do a full transfer. 1028 00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:55.543 So similarities and differences. 1029 00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:59.440 The divesting side needs to file first, 1030 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.400 for both of these processes. 1031 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.590 Basically the divesting operator, 1032 00:49:03.590 --> 00:49:07.260 needs to go into POPS say, I'm getting rid of this permit. 1033 00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:10.140 Once the RRC approves the application, 1034 00:49:10.140 --> 00:49:12.400 the acquiring operator can go on, 1035 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.893 and file either a full transfer or a transfer merge. 1036 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:19.930 So, as my colleagues were saying before, 1037 00:49:19.930 --> 00:49:22.790 this new rule makes you pay that renewal fee, 1038 00:49:22.790 --> 00:49:26.090 upon acquisition with the old transformer, 1039 00:49:26.090 --> 00:49:28.010 or the old full transfer, excuse me, 1040 00:49:28.010 --> 00:49:30.060 but with the new transfer merge, 1041 00:49:30.060 --> 00:49:33.240 you don't have to pay that renewal fee upon acquisition. 1042 00:49:33.240 --> 00:49:35.670 It'll just get set up with whenever your renewal, 1043 00:49:35.670 --> 00:49:37.310 is set for that permit, 1044 00:49:37.310 --> 00:49:39.210 that you're dropping those lines into. 1045 00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:44.450 So with the previous way, you could only do one at a time. 1046 00:49:44.450 --> 00:49:46.780 So you could only acquire one at a time, 1047 00:49:46.780 --> 00:49:47.980 with the transfer merge, 1048 00:49:47.980 --> 00:49:49.820 as long as you have discussed it, 1049 00:49:49.820 --> 00:49:52.040 with all of the divesting operators, 1050 00:49:52.040 --> 00:49:54.100 and they all get their work in, and we approve them, 1051 00:49:54.100 --> 00:49:56.933 you can acquire as many as you want at once. 1052 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.780 Previously, neither operator had to submit mapping. 1053 00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:04.170 If you wanna do a full transfer, 1054 00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:06.710 neither operator will have to submit mapping, 1055 00:50:06.710 --> 00:50:08.570 because nothing is changing. 1056 00:50:08.570 --> 00:50:11.950 Basically we take this permit, we move it over here. 1057 00:50:11.950 --> 00:50:13.610 With the transfer merge, 1058 00:50:13.610 --> 00:50:15.920 the divesting operator doesn't need to submit mapping. 1059 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.570 They don't care what happens to it. 1060 00:50:17.570 --> 00:50:20.160 The acquiring operator will need to submit mapping, 1061 00:50:20.160 --> 00:50:22.570 because their permit is changing, 1062 00:50:22.570 --> 00:50:24.940 with geometry and with attributes. 1063 00:50:24.940 --> 00:50:28.060 So we will wanna see shapefiles on the acquiring side, 1064 00:50:28.060 --> 00:50:29.233 for a transfer merge. 1065 00:50:31.330 --> 00:50:34.540 Lastly, the full transfer, the old way, 1066 00:50:34.540 --> 00:50:37.160 you will keep the permit number as Ryan mentioned. 1067 00:50:37.160 --> 00:50:39.070 So you can hang on to that. 1068 00:50:39.070 --> 00:50:42.670 With this new transfer merge, the old permit number, 1069 00:50:42.670 --> 00:50:45.710 gets it gets inactivated automatically, 1070 00:50:45.710 --> 00:50:47.690 and the acquiring operator will choose, 1071 00:50:47.690 --> 00:50:50.273 one of their own permits to keep those lines in. 1072 00:50:52.450 --> 00:50:54.860 Alright, so a little visual example, 1073 00:50:54.860 --> 00:50:57.530 between these two POPS processes. 1074 00:50:57.530 --> 00:51:00.890 Here, we have the original full transfer method. 1075 00:51:00.890 --> 00:51:03.990 You can see, we have two fictional operators here. 1076 00:51:03.990 --> 00:51:05.680 And in this scenario, 1077 00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:09.560 Rattlesnake Operators is taking over a full permit, 1078 00:51:09.560 --> 00:51:11.290 from Eagle Operators. 1079 00:51:11.290 --> 00:51:13.020 So Eagle goes on to POPS, 1080 00:51:13.020 --> 00:51:16.730 they file their divesting transfer, we approve it. 1081 00:51:16.730 --> 00:51:21.730 And then Rattlesnake can then acquire that permit in full. 1082 00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:24.250 And you can see here that the permit number, 1083 00:51:24.250 --> 00:51:26.880 will stay the same in that scenario. 1084 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.790 And you can also notice that Rattlesnake, 1085 00:51:28.790 --> 00:51:30.453 can only acquire one at a time. 1086 00:51:32.090 --> 00:51:34.560 So with this new transfer merge function, 1087 00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:37.370 Rattlesnake decides they don't wanna do it one at a time, 1088 00:51:37.370 --> 00:51:40.760 they want to get a bunch of full transfers at once. 1089 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.990 So they talked to Eagle, Havoline and Gator operators, 1090 00:51:44.990 --> 00:51:48.350 and they get them all to submit their divesting transfers. 1091 00:51:48.350 --> 00:51:51.250 And once the RRC approves, all of their transfers, 1092 00:51:51.250 --> 00:51:54.120 Rattlesnake goes on to POPS and they can see, okay, 1093 00:51:54.120 --> 00:51:57.020 I have these three options I want all of them, 1094 00:51:57.020 --> 00:52:00.100 and I'm gonna dump them into one of my own permits here. 1095 00:52:00.100 --> 00:52:01.640 And the new permit number will be, 1096 00:52:01.640 --> 00:52:03.193 whatever permit they choose. 1097 00:52:06.830 --> 00:52:09.913 So why use this new code? 1098 00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:12.510 First of all, as we mentioned before, 1099 00:52:12.510 --> 00:52:16.540 you can do more multiple at once, so that is helpful. 1100 00:52:16.540 --> 00:52:21.040 It also can turn a two step process into a one step process, 1101 00:52:21.040 --> 00:52:24.180 basically before if you were doing a full transfer, 1102 00:52:24.180 --> 00:52:25.790 and you wanted those lines to end up, 1103 00:52:25.790 --> 00:52:27.790 in one of your own permits, 1104 00:52:27.790 --> 00:52:31.990 you would have need to file two applications on POPS first, 1105 00:52:31.990 --> 00:52:35.740 the transfer, and then the amendment. 1106 00:52:35.740 --> 00:52:39.900 So this changes that all into one process. 1107 00:52:39.900 --> 00:52:41.780 And then of course, you get to avoid paying, 1108 00:52:41.780 --> 00:52:44.000 that pesky renewal fee upon acquisition, 1109 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.533 which is what the renewal will set you up to do. 1110 00:52:49.770 --> 00:52:52.260 So we have a new document. 1111 00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:55.360 Like I mentioned, y'all, who've been here a while, 1112 00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:00.320 might recognize its old name, TPMS attribute, definitions, 1113 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.650 valid codes, and digital projection requirements. 1114 00:53:03.650 --> 00:53:06.980 It's quite a mouthful, so we have shortened it, 1115 00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:10.160 it's now called a guide to shapefiles submissions. 1116 00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:14.220 And this is basically your catch-all how to guide, 1117 00:53:14.220 --> 00:53:18.200 for all of the roles we have for our shapefiles submissions. 1118 00:53:18.200 --> 00:53:21.110 And there are a lot of them, so it's very detailed, 1119 00:53:21.110 --> 00:53:25.140 we try to break it down and make it a little more clear. 1120 00:53:25.140 --> 00:53:28.860 So main differences that we added to this new documents. 1121 00:53:28.860 --> 00:53:31.350 This new code is now in there. 1122 00:53:31.350 --> 00:53:33.130 We shoveled around the information, 1123 00:53:33.130 --> 00:53:35.760 and brought the more pertinent stuff to the front, 1124 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:40.490 and reformatted, the old tables and the field descriptions. 1125 00:53:40.490 --> 00:53:43.010 And our hope is that it's just gonna be a little more clear, 1126 00:53:43.010 --> 00:53:45.390 and that we're gonna cut down on some of the errors, 1127 00:53:45.390 --> 00:53:47.423 and the common errors that we're seeing. 1128 00:53:48.580 --> 00:53:53.323 So that segues me into the common mistakes that we see. 1129 00:53:54.890 --> 00:53:58.110 I'm going to show you the top three that I see, 1130 00:53:58.110 --> 00:54:00.730 and then pop over to that document to show you, 1131 00:54:00.730 --> 00:54:02.193 where we're addressing that. 1132 00:54:03.460 --> 00:54:05.570 So I'd say main three things, 1133 00:54:05.570 --> 00:54:07.840 that the shapefile doesn't contain, 1134 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.360 all of the required fields. 1135 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.220 So there are at least 15 required fields, 1136 00:54:12.220 --> 00:54:13.900 for all shapefile submission. 1137 00:54:13.900 --> 00:54:16.630 Oftentimes the shapefile are just not, 1138 00:54:16.630 --> 00:54:19.400 they don't have all of those fields in there. 1139 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.470 We also see invalid entries in the attribute table. 1140 00:54:22.470 --> 00:54:25.840 So this could be like a field has the incorrect data type, 1141 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:28.880 or the character limit isn't correct. 1142 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.310 Or there are lowercase characters in the shapefile, 1143 00:54:32.310 --> 00:54:34.210 or just that the value isn't accurate. 1144 00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:38.660 And lastly, the row that it's in the wrong projection. 1145 00:54:38.660 --> 00:54:43.563 So let's pop over to this new documents here it is, 1146 00:54:44.830 --> 00:54:47.040 here we linked to our rules. 1147 00:54:47.040 --> 00:54:50.580 We brought some kind of important things to remember, 1148 00:54:50.580 --> 00:54:51.433 up here. 1149 00:54:52.579 --> 00:54:55.620 This is a overview, it's broken out into three sections. 1150 00:54:55.620 --> 00:54:57.410 So first coordinate systems, 1151 00:54:57.410 --> 00:55:00.180 second, those 15 required fields. 1152 00:55:00.180 --> 00:55:03.310 And lastly, potentially some additional fields, 1153 00:55:03.310 --> 00:55:06.480 if necessary, if your lines meet certain criteria, 1154 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.580 and I will go over that later. 1155 00:55:09.580 --> 00:55:11.353 So first coordinate systems, 1156 00:55:12.420 --> 00:55:16.180 when you submit a shapefile to us, it needs to be using, 1157 00:55:16.180 --> 00:55:19.360 one of two geographic coordinate systems, 1158 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:23.990 North American Datum 1927 or 1983. 1159 00:55:23.990 --> 00:55:27.700 We do not accept projected shapefiles, 1160 00:55:27.700 --> 00:55:30.580 side note that we do reproject them. 1161 00:55:30.580 --> 00:55:33.790 So when you submit them and we approve them, 1162 00:55:33.790 --> 00:55:35.570 we will reproject it. 1163 00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:37.910 And we will put it into a projected coordinate system, 1164 00:55:37.910 --> 00:55:40.770 called Texas Statewide Mapping System. 1165 00:55:40.770 --> 00:55:43.420 That's how we calculate your mileage. 1166 00:55:43.420 --> 00:55:46.430 And that is the coordinate system that's being used, 1167 00:55:46.430 --> 00:55:48.610 on the pilot GIS viewer. 1168 00:55:48.610 --> 00:55:51.200 And also if you ever received shapefile from us, 1169 00:55:51.200 --> 00:55:54.020 that's the coordinate system it's going to using, 1170 00:55:54.020 --> 00:55:55.450 but when you submit it to us, 1171 00:55:55.450 --> 00:55:57.090 make sure that it's, unprojected, 1172 00:55:57.090 --> 00:55:59.793 using one of these two geographic coordinate systems. 1173 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.530 The second section, these 15 required fields here, 1174 00:56:04.530 --> 00:56:05.833 they are numbered out. 1175 00:56:06.740 --> 00:56:09.960 Make sure that you can see they're all capitalized. 1176 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:11.970 Make sure they're all spelled correctly, 1177 00:56:11.970 --> 00:56:14.100 just as you see here, 1178 00:56:14.100 --> 00:56:17.030 make sure the data type and character limit is correct. 1179 00:56:17.030 --> 00:56:21.020 And note print for each field. 1180 00:56:21.020 --> 00:56:23.820 And it's super important that you just pay close attention 1181 00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:26.230 to that because our system is very picky. 1182 00:56:26.230 --> 00:56:28.130 And even if you have like, 1183 00:56:28.130 --> 00:56:30.863 if this was a six instead of a five or a character limit, 1184 00:56:30.863 --> 00:56:32.450 they would get rejected. 1185 00:56:32.450 --> 00:56:36.543 So I would recommend having like a template shapefile, 1186 00:56:36.543 --> 00:56:38.660 that you use, if you do this a lot, 1187 00:56:38.660 --> 00:56:41.710 just so that you don't get tripped up, 1188 00:56:41.710 --> 00:56:43.610 and you don't have to do this a bunch of times, 1189 00:56:43.610 --> 00:56:44.633 over and over again. 1190 00:56:45.980 --> 00:56:49.550 The last thing I talked about for a common mistake, 1191 00:56:49.550 --> 00:56:51.370 we see a lot is accuracy. 1192 00:56:51.370 --> 00:56:55.253 So I'm gonna scroll down to the diameter field, 1193 00:56:56.980 --> 00:57:00.500 here basically we have a table of accepted values. 1194 00:57:00.500 --> 00:57:03.010 So if your pipeline is less, 1195 00:57:03.010 --> 00:57:05.560 is 12 inches or less in thickness. 1196 00:57:05.560 --> 00:57:08.130 We want you to use the outside diameter. 1197 00:57:08.130 --> 00:57:11.550 So these values are the valid values, 1198 00:57:11.550 --> 00:57:13.770 that we wanna see in the shapefile. 1199 00:57:13.770 --> 00:57:18.300 If you put like 3.5, six, seven, or something, 1200 00:57:18.300 --> 00:57:21.650 it's not accurate, it has to match exactly to this table. 1201 00:57:21.650 --> 00:57:25.533 So make sure you're using directly from this table. 1202 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.170 Another example would be the commodity field. 1203 00:57:29.170 --> 00:57:31.810 This is the field we use to express, 1204 00:57:31.810 --> 00:57:34.630 what primary commodity is in a line. 1205 00:57:34.630 --> 00:57:37.860 So it's usually a two or three digit code. 1206 00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:41.580 And one example of an inaccurate response would be, 1207 00:57:41.580 --> 00:57:45.350 you just put NG instead of NGT or NGG, 1208 00:57:45.350 --> 00:57:48.610 we don't know if it's transmission or gathering. 1209 00:57:48.610 --> 00:57:50.510 So just make sure whatever values, 1210 00:57:50.510 --> 00:57:51.770 you're putting in your shapefile, 1211 00:57:51.770 --> 00:57:54.520 you're following this guideline to a T, 1212 00:57:54.520 --> 00:57:56.513 and you're only using what's in here. 1213 00:57:59.900 --> 00:58:01.190 A few other mistakes, 1214 00:58:01.190 --> 00:58:03.910 a incomplete cover letter or overview maps. 1215 00:58:03.910 --> 00:58:07.010 So basically just not enough information. 1216 00:58:07.010 --> 00:58:09.230 So say you're doing a transfer, 1217 00:58:09.230 --> 00:58:10.550 and you're writing in the cover letter. 1218 00:58:10.550 --> 00:58:11.930 Hey, we're transferring some lines, 1219 00:58:11.930 --> 00:58:15.960 but you don't tell us how many miles are being transferred 1220 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:17.690 or what operator they're coming from, 1221 00:58:17.690 --> 00:58:19.960 or what permit it's coming from. 1222 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.580 Just make sure you're putting a full picture in there, 1223 00:58:22.580 --> 00:58:23.910 for us. 1224 00:58:23.910 --> 00:58:25.450 And I have an example. 1225 00:58:25.450 --> 00:58:27.190 I'll talk about later kind of like, 1226 00:58:27.190 --> 00:58:30.350 the main things we wanna see in a cover letter. 1227 00:58:30.350 --> 00:58:31.600 And also with the overview map, 1228 00:58:31.600 --> 00:58:34.210 just make sure it shows the complete permit, 1229 00:58:34.210 --> 00:58:35.720 including abandoned lines. 1230 00:58:35.720 --> 00:58:38.933 We just wanna see the permit in its entirety and clearly. 1231 00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:45.710 Another thing we see often is that shapefiles, 1232 00:58:45.710 --> 00:58:49.120 that are submitted do not include all of the lines. 1233 00:58:49.120 --> 00:58:51.220 So say you're doing a pipeline addition, 1234 00:58:51.220 --> 00:58:52.810 and you submit a shapefile, 1235 00:58:52.810 --> 00:58:56.740 but you only include the new lines in the shapefile. 1236 00:58:56.740 --> 00:58:58.580 Basically when you submit a shapefile, 1237 00:58:58.580 --> 00:59:00.510 it's gonna override everything we have. 1238 00:59:00.510 --> 00:59:03.340 So make sure that the new and existing lines, 1239 00:59:03.340 --> 00:59:05.057 are in the shapefile, 1240 00:59:05.057 --> 00:59:07.793 and that it basically shows the updated permit. 1241 00:59:10.570 --> 00:59:12.110 This is a good time to note that, 1242 00:59:12.110 --> 00:59:14.660 you should always include abandoned lines, 1243 00:59:14.660 --> 00:59:16.590 in every future submission. 1244 00:59:16.590 --> 00:59:19.620 So even if you abandon it, according to our rules, 1245 00:59:19.620 --> 00:59:20.810 five years ago, 1246 00:59:20.810 --> 00:59:24.233 we wanna see those continue to show up in the submission, 1247 00:59:24.233 --> 00:59:26.763 so that we don't lose record of those lines. 1248 00:59:28.670 --> 00:59:32.690 Lastly, so people, 1249 00:59:32.690 --> 00:59:35.510 the operators will often request data from us, 1250 00:59:35.510 --> 00:59:37.200 we'll request their mapping. 1251 00:59:37.200 --> 00:59:40.820 And oftentimes they'll just kind of take that shapefile, 1252 00:59:40.820 --> 00:59:42.230 turn around and put it back on pulse, 1253 00:59:42.230 --> 00:59:43.940 without making any edits. 1254 00:59:43.940 --> 00:59:45.230 That's something we see a lot too. 1255 00:59:45.230 --> 00:59:47.270 There are a few things that you'll need to change, 1256 00:59:47.270 --> 00:59:50.020 before you can use the data we send you. 1257 00:59:50.020 --> 00:59:53.310 Main things, being any to reproject it. 1258 00:59:53.310 --> 00:59:55.453 It uses that projected coordinate system, 1259 00:59:55.453 --> 00:59:56.857 I was talking about earlier, 1260 00:59:56.857 --> 00:59:59.560 and that you'll need to add a couple fields, 1261 00:59:59.560 --> 01:00:02.080 these two fields, to make sure that you meet, 1262 01:00:02.080 --> 01:00:04.253 that minimum 15 required fields. 1263 01:00:05.310 --> 01:00:07.730 I'm not gonna go too in depth about this, actually, 1264 01:00:07.730 --> 01:00:11.690 because my team just wrote a script that will reproject, 1265 01:00:11.690 --> 01:00:13.350 and add these fields automatically, 1266 01:00:13.350 --> 01:00:16.180 before we send out data to operators. 1267 01:00:16.180 --> 01:00:17.870 So hopefully it shouldn't be an issue, 1268 01:00:17.870 --> 01:00:20.890 but just always make sure to check the projection, 1269 01:00:20.890 --> 01:00:22.670 check that it has all its fields, 1270 01:00:22.670 --> 01:00:24.730 and use that guide shapefile submissions, 1271 01:00:24.730 --> 01:00:25.833 to help you out there. 1272 01:00:28.020 --> 01:00:31.370 In addition, it's possible that you will need to add, 1273 01:00:31.370 --> 01:00:32.950 a couple extra fields. 1274 01:00:32.950 --> 01:00:35.880 If you're lines meet certain criteria, 1275 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.210 these fields are SMYS and USA, 1276 01:00:38.210 --> 01:00:40.590 and they throw people off a lot. 1277 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:41.680 And it's understandable. 1278 01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:44.900 They're kind of confusing because they're only required, 1279 01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:48.340 when your lines are liquid gathering lines, 1280 01:00:48.340 --> 01:00:50.790 and they're between six and eight inches. 1281 01:00:50.790 --> 01:00:52.500 Basically our rules say, 1282 01:00:52.500 --> 01:00:54.360 if you have a liquid gathering line, 1283 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.350 it's between six and eight inches, it might be regulated. 1284 01:00:57.350 --> 01:01:00.003 So we need more information to determine that. 1285 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:03.680 So let's pop back over, 1286 01:01:03.680 --> 01:01:05.650 to the guide to shapefile submissions. 1287 01:01:05.650 --> 01:01:07.210 And I'm gonna show you, 1288 01:01:07.210 --> 01:01:09.550 if you remember all the way at the bottom, 1289 01:01:09.550 --> 01:01:11.320 there was a third section, 1290 01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.340 called additional fields if necessary. 1291 01:01:13.340 --> 01:01:15.833 So these are the two fields USA and SMYS. 1292 01:01:17.120 --> 01:01:21.630 And basically if you were, 1293 01:01:21.630 --> 01:01:25.260 if your line is in an unusually sensitive area, 1294 01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:28.020 and the SMYS is greater than 20%, 1295 01:01:28.020 --> 01:01:30.180 then your line is regulated. 1296 01:01:30.180 --> 01:01:33.760 If both of those are not true, then it's not regulated. 1297 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.180 You just need to make sure you include that information, 1298 01:01:36.180 --> 01:01:37.480 so you can determine that. 1299 01:01:38.720 --> 01:01:41.500 And if this is just making your brain fuzz over, 1300 01:01:41.500 --> 01:01:43.560 all this talk about regulated pipelines, 1301 01:01:43.560 --> 01:01:47.700 I'm scrolling up to our Texas reg field. 1302 01:01:47.700 --> 01:01:51.130 This is something we also updated this field basically says, 1303 01:01:51.130 --> 01:01:54.030 is your line regulated yes or no. 1304 01:01:54.030 --> 01:01:57.304 And we put some new logic tables in here, 1305 01:01:57.304 --> 01:02:01.610 and you should be able to use the information, 1306 01:02:01.610 --> 01:02:05.130 in your shapefile to determine line by line, 1307 01:02:05.130 --> 01:02:06.870 if it's regulated or not. 1308 01:02:06.870 --> 01:02:10.460 So here's all the logic here, definitely take a look. 1309 01:02:10.460 --> 01:02:13.410 If you have any confusion, definitely reach out to us, 1310 01:02:13.410 --> 01:02:16.330 or we also appreciate feedback on this. 1311 01:02:16.330 --> 01:02:17.680 Let us know what you think. 1312 01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:23.450 Lastly, I'm gonna pop over to Arc map, 1313 01:02:23.450 --> 01:02:26.190 to talk about another field 1314 01:02:26.190 --> 01:02:31.160 called the T4_AMD field or the T4 amendment field. 1315 01:02:31.160 --> 01:02:33.410 And I'm gonna talk about how we're gonna assign 1316 01:02:33.410 --> 01:02:35.083 that new TM code. 1317 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.940 Okay so here we are in an Arc map, 1318 01:02:40.940 --> 01:02:43.100 I wanted to show you guys a couple of examples, 1319 01:02:43.100 --> 01:02:45.330 of shapefiles submissions. 1320 01:02:45.330 --> 01:02:47.140 What looks like a good shapefile submission, 1321 01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:49.360 what make it not look so good, 1322 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.670 and kind of go through all these fields, 1323 01:02:51.670 --> 01:02:53.770 and go over that with you guys. 1324 01:02:53.770 --> 01:02:57.390 So here we are out in West Texas, 1325 01:02:57.390 --> 01:03:02.390 and we have Rattlesnake operators out here, 1326 01:03:03.550 --> 01:03:04.910 with this permits, 1327 01:03:04.910 --> 01:03:09.300 and they have just submitted an amendment on POPS, 1328 01:03:09.300 --> 01:03:12.310 and I'm reading their cover letter and they say, okay, 1329 01:03:12.310 --> 01:03:13.620 we have some new line, 1330 01:03:13.620 --> 01:03:16.940 and we're also trying to abandon some of our line. 1331 01:03:16.940 --> 01:03:18.670 So here's the shapefile we're submitting, 1332 01:03:18.670 --> 01:03:20.370 let us know what you think. 1333 01:03:20.370 --> 01:03:22.880 So let's check it out, first things first, 1334 01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.590 let's check coordinate system. 1335 01:03:25.590 --> 01:03:29.210 We want it to be unprojected and it is, 1336 01:03:29.210 --> 01:03:33.690 we can see it is using NAD 1983, 1337 01:03:33.690 --> 01:03:35.513 and it is not projected perfect. 1338 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:39.070 So let's open up the attribute table, 1339 01:03:39.070 --> 01:03:41.397 for this amendment shapefile. 1340 01:03:42.650 --> 01:03:45.320 And here are all of our fields. 1341 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.070 So let me just go through each of them with you guys, 1342 01:03:48.070 --> 01:03:49.920 you can see they're all capitalized. 1343 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.530 We don't see any lowercase characters anywhere, 1344 01:03:52.530 --> 01:03:55.130 in the shapefile, we don't see any negative numbers. 1345 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.313 So starting here our T4 permanent field. 1346 01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.060 So this is your T4 permit number. 1347 01:04:04.060 --> 01:04:07.620 It should only ever have one value. 1348 01:04:07.620 --> 01:04:10.210 If you're submitting your amendment, 1349 01:04:10.210 --> 01:04:13.030 to permit one, two, three, four, five, 1350 01:04:13.030 --> 01:04:14.400 then the T4 permit number, 1351 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.140 should always just have that one value. 1352 01:04:17.140 --> 01:04:18.670 Even if you're transferring lines, 1353 01:04:18.670 --> 01:04:20.520 from a different permit, number, 1354 01:04:20.520 --> 01:04:21.980 those lines still need to be coded, 1355 01:04:21.980 --> 01:04:23.490 with the keeper permit number. 1356 01:04:23.490 --> 01:04:26.590 So that will only ever be one value in that field. 1357 01:04:26.590 --> 01:04:29.673 Same goes for the operator number the T5 number. 1358 01:04:32.130 --> 01:04:35.750 System, name, subsystem name, and P line ID. 1359 01:04:35.750 --> 01:04:39.860 These three fields here are assigned by the operator, 1360 01:04:39.860 --> 01:04:44.810 and it is kind of your way to assign a naming convention, 1361 01:04:44.810 --> 01:04:46.440 to your lines. 1362 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.500 I would recommend setting up a scheme, 1363 01:04:49.500 --> 01:04:52.080 that works for all of your permits within a P5, 1364 01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:54.540 so that it's just, it's easier to keep track of, 1365 01:04:54.540 --> 01:04:57.450 and you know exactly what lines we're talking about. 1366 01:04:57.450 --> 01:05:01.810 So generally it follows a hierarchical kind of theme, 1367 01:05:01.810 --> 01:05:05.180 here with the most vague being system name, 1368 01:05:05.180 --> 01:05:08.330 and the most granular being the key line ID. 1369 01:05:08.330 --> 01:05:10.580 So here you see that they've said, okay, 1370 01:05:10.580 --> 01:05:13.900 this entire permit is called Rattlesnake pipeline system, 1371 01:05:13.900 --> 01:05:15.990 pretty vague, but in subsystem name, 1372 01:05:15.990 --> 01:05:17.490 they're breaking it down a bit more, 1373 01:05:17.490 --> 01:05:19.620 into laterals and trunk lines. 1374 01:05:19.620 --> 01:05:21.490 And then in the P line ID field, 1375 01:05:21.490 --> 01:05:23.940 they're actually breaking it out line by line, 1376 01:05:23.940 --> 01:05:27.280 so that each line has a unique identifier. 1377 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.510 So again, this is all up to y'all, 1378 01:05:29.510 --> 01:05:31.253 how you wanna name your pipelines. 1379 01:05:32.770 --> 01:05:35.470 Diameter field, we looked at that chart before, 1380 01:05:35.470 --> 01:05:37.560 and these values are all in that chart. 1381 01:05:37.560 --> 01:05:41.060 So this looks accurate commodity. 1382 01:05:41.060 --> 01:05:42.950 Again, this looks good. 1383 01:05:42.950 --> 01:05:44.090 These are valid codes. 1384 01:05:44.090 --> 01:05:47.160 This is a crude oil gap, that has crude oil transmission, 1385 01:05:47.160 --> 01:05:49.040 and this is crude oil gathering. 1386 01:05:49.040 --> 01:05:51.930 That's fine for them to be combined in the same permits. 1387 01:05:51.930 --> 01:05:56.290 We never want to see liquid and gas combined in this field. 1388 01:05:56.290 --> 01:05:57.830 Same goes for interstate. 1389 01:05:57.830 --> 01:06:00.500 We don't ever wanna see an inter or intrastate line, 1390 01:06:00.500 --> 01:06:01.450 in the same permit. 1391 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:04.310 Status field. 1392 01:06:04.310 --> 01:06:09.023 This tells me is your line active A or B abandoned? 1393 01:06:10.150 --> 01:06:12.450 Quality CD is the quality of your data, 1394 01:06:12.450 --> 01:06:14.763 so how close is it to real world? 1395 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.480 Loc des is the class location, 1396 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:22.050 so for liquid lines, it's either rural or non rural. 1397 01:06:22.050 --> 01:06:24.750 And they're telling us that all these lines are rural, 1398 01:06:25.980 --> 01:06:27.250 Texas reg, 1399 01:06:27.250 --> 01:06:30.490 this is the regulatory field like I explained before. 1400 01:06:30.490 --> 01:06:34.170 So they're saying basically this line is regulated, 1401 01:06:34.170 --> 01:06:36.020 and the rest of them are not. 1402 01:06:36.020 --> 01:06:38.420 So as you guys know, this is something, 1403 01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:41.490 that you have to assign yourself using those logic tables. 1404 01:06:41.490 --> 01:06:45.230 So how did they decide this was regulated? 1405 01:06:45.230 --> 01:06:47.030 Well, let's look, this is a transmission line. 1406 01:06:47.030 --> 01:06:49.350 We know all transmission lines are regulated. 1407 01:06:49.350 --> 01:06:50.770 So that makes sense. 1408 01:06:50.770 --> 01:06:54.090 This is also a transmission line, why is it not regulated? 1409 01:06:54.090 --> 01:06:55.320 Because it's abandoned. 1410 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:57.423 We do not inspect abandoned lines. 1411 01:06:58.570 --> 01:07:02.120 And these are not regulated because they're gathering lines 1412 01:07:02.120 --> 01:07:04.740 and they do not meet that diameter criteria. 1413 01:07:04.740 --> 01:07:07.240 So there's no possibility that they are regulated. 1414 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.670 Okay SYS ID and PLS system name, 1415 01:07:12.670 --> 01:07:17.670 these two fields are required for any regulated line. 1416 01:07:18.890 --> 01:07:21.220 So if you have an existing regulated line, 1417 01:07:21.220 --> 01:07:24.040 there will be a system ID and system name, 1418 01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:25.980 associated with that line. 1419 01:07:25.980 --> 01:07:29.560 An exception would be if you're adding a new line, 1420 01:07:29.560 --> 01:07:31.940 and we don't have record of it before, 1421 01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:35.050 there will not be an existing system name or ID, 1422 01:07:35.050 --> 01:07:38.100 but if you've had this line in your permit, 1423 01:07:38.100 --> 01:07:40.180 then there will be a system associated with it, 1424 01:07:40.180 --> 01:07:42.470 and you'll need to figure what that is, 1425 01:07:42.470 --> 01:07:45.020 and populate that in the shapefile. 1426 01:07:45.020 --> 01:07:49.110 A little context, this system ID and name refers to, 1427 01:07:49.110 --> 01:07:51.980 a separate database, it's our inspectors database. 1428 01:07:51.980 --> 01:07:55.040 It's what they use to go out and do their site inspections. 1429 01:07:55.040 --> 01:07:58.010 And these two fields help us to connect those two databases. 1430 01:07:58.010 --> 01:08:01.820 So really important that we keep that up-to-date. 1431 01:08:01.820 --> 01:08:03.770 If this is all new to you, 1432 01:08:03.770 --> 01:08:05.710 and you have no idea what I'm talking about, 1433 01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:09.720 then that's okay, I'll show you in this document, 1434 01:08:09.720 --> 01:08:12.960 where you can find that information yourself. 1435 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.140 So here's the system ID field. 1436 01:08:15.140 --> 01:08:18.370 You can see it says required for all regulated line. 1437 01:08:18.370 --> 01:08:21.520 Find the list here online pipeline website, 1438 01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:23.200 and you can find it there, 1439 01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:25.173 and you can search by permit number. 1440 01:08:28.050 --> 01:08:28.983 Okay cool. 1441 01:08:30.310 --> 01:08:31.320 All right, last field. 1442 01:08:31.320 --> 01:08:33.230 And this is the really important one, 1443 01:08:33.230 --> 01:08:34.980 that I wanted to talk to you guys about. 1444 01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:37.440 So the T4 and then it field, 1445 01:08:37.440 --> 01:08:41.850 this is a field that you guys use to tell us line by line 1446 01:08:41.850 --> 01:08:45.050 what you want us to do on your amendment. 1447 01:08:45.050 --> 01:08:49.790 So NC here stands for no change. 1448 01:08:49.790 --> 01:08:51.880 So basically Rattlesnake is saying, 1449 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:54.460 hey, these lines are existing, don't touch them, 1450 01:08:54.460 --> 01:08:57.710 don't do anything to them, okay, we'll leave them. 1451 01:08:57.710 --> 01:09:00.673 So NC is for your existing lines. 1452 01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:05.640 PA that stands for pipeline addition. 1453 01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:08.800 So this is, this must be what that little new segment, 1454 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:10.377 that they were talking about. 1455 01:09:10.377 --> 01:09:14.060 And here BP stands for abandoned in place. 1456 01:09:14.060 --> 01:09:14.900 So they're saying, 1457 01:09:14.900 --> 01:09:18.360 I want to abandon this line and you can see right here, 1458 01:09:18.360 --> 01:09:20.700 that they have also marked it as abandoned, 1459 01:09:20.700 --> 01:09:22.849 in the shapefile. 1460 01:09:22.849 --> 01:09:24.243 So perfect. 1461 01:09:25.170 --> 01:09:27.240 This looks good I would pass the shapefile, 1462 01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:30.490 everything looks good to me. 1463 01:09:30.490 --> 01:09:35.230 Just to show you one more thing, just about the data type. 1464 01:09:35.230 --> 01:09:36.760 Again, we can see this, correct, 1465 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.160 it's a string and its length of five, 1466 01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:41.250 that's correct for this field. 1467 01:09:41.250 --> 01:09:43.513 So again, just close attention to that. 1468 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:45.513 Okay, cool. 1469 01:09:46.354 --> 01:09:49.520 So I just, my first example, my last example, 1470 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.950 I wanted to talk about partial transfers, 1471 01:09:52.950 --> 01:09:54.640 and the mapping for partial transfers. 1472 01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.740 It's one of the more complicated ones. 1473 01:09:57.740 --> 01:10:00.520 So I wanted to give you guys that example. 1474 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.009 So, okay, so we have Rattlesnake out here, 1475 01:10:04.009 --> 01:10:07.800 and they have had their eyes on, 1476 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.030 some of these lines over here for a while. 1477 01:10:10.030 --> 01:10:13.200 This is Havoline operators, neighboring pipeline, 1478 01:10:13.200 --> 01:10:16.220 and Rattlesnake, and Havoline get together, 1479 01:10:16.220 --> 01:10:19.110 and they decide they wanna do a partial transfer. 1480 01:10:19.110 --> 01:10:23.630 So they know that they both need to submit shapefiles, 1481 01:10:23.630 --> 01:10:26.930 they both need to submit mapping for a partial transfer. 1482 01:10:26.930 --> 01:10:30.433 That's because the mapping is changing for both of them. 1483 01:10:30.433 --> 01:10:33.200 For Havoline they're gonna get rid of some of their lines 1484 01:10:33.200 --> 01:10:34.730 for Rattlesnake, they're gonna add them. 1485 01:10:34.730 --> 01:10:36.470 So the geometry is changing, 1486 01:10:36.470 --> 01:10:38.623 so we need mapping for both sides. 1487 01:10:40.210 --> 01:10:44.730 With a partial transfer, the main thing is that, 1488 01:10:44.730 --> 01:10:49.070 the transfer lines should exist in both shapefiles, 1489 01:10:49.070 --> 01:10:51.980 the acquiring and divesting, and they should be identical, 1490 01:10:51.980 --> 01:10:56.050 and they should both be coded with the T4 minute code PT 1491 01:10:56.050 --> 01:10:57.263 for partial transfer. 1492 01:10:58.650 --> 01:10:59.940 So, okay, cool. 1493 01:10:59.940 --> 01:11:02.660 So this is Rattlesnakes old permit, 1494 01:11:02.660 --> 01:11:04.070 they wanted to add some new, 1495 01:11:04.070 --> 01:11:06.790 so let's look at their mapping that they submitted, 1496 01:11:06.790 --> 01:11:09.853 as the acquiring operator in this transfer. 1497 01:11:11.046 --> 01:11:12.690 Okay this is new, right, 1498 01:11:12.690 --> 01:11:15.150 if we look at the old one, this is a new line. 1499 01:11:15.150 --> 01:11:17.040 So this must be the transfer line, 1500 01:11:17.040 --> 01:11:19.860 and the rest must be the existing stuff. 1501 01:11:19.860 --> 01:11:22.393 So let's confirm and see if that's correct, 1502 01:11:23.580 --> 01:11:27.710 select the lines and open the correct address table. 1503 01:11:31.210 --> 01:11:36.080 And if we go over to the T4 amendment field, we see yes, 1504 01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:40.130 that all of the lines that are coded as PT in the shapefile 1505 01:11:40.130 --> 01:11:41.740 are the lines that are new. 1506 01:11:41.740 --> 01:11:44.040 The ones that we assume to be a transfer, 1507 01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:47.580 and the rest is coded as NC for no change. 1508 01:11:47.580 --> 01:11:49.480 And that's perfect cause we know already, 1509 01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:53.260 this is their existing permit, nothing's changing here. 1510 01:11:53.260 --> 01:11:58.260 Great, so we want to see now and check the divesting side, 1511 01:11:59.120 --> 01:12:01.590 and see that these lines are identical, 1512 01:12:01.590 --> 01:12:03.593 in the divesting mapping as well. 1513 01:12:08.810 --> 01:12:11.770 All right so here we go. 1514 01:12:11.770 --> 01:12:14.193 Let's select the partial transfer lines. 1515 01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:19.010 Perfect, they match. 1516 01:12:19.010 --> 01:12:22.480 We can see between permits, it is the same exact lines, 1517 01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:27.480 attributionally they should be identical, and they are, 1518 01:12:27.510 --> 01:12:31.270 one thing I wanted to point out is, 1519 01:12:31.270 --> 01:12:34.400 if you notice these two fields hanging out here, 1520 01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:37.250 these were the ones we were talking about, SYS and USA. 1521 01:12:37.250 --> 01:12:40.167 We didn't notice them in that first shapefile. 1522 01:12:41.040 --> 01:12:45.000 Why, because none of these lines meet that criteria. 1523 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.150 Here's our gathering lines, 1524 01:12:46.150 --> 01:12:48.140 but none of them are between six and eight inches. 1525 01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:50.840 So we didn't need that additional information. 1526 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:54.250 However, when Rattlesnake decided to do this transfer, 1527 01:12:54.250 --> 01:12:57.660 realize that Havoline's lines were gathering, 1528 01:12:57.660 --> 01:13:00.390 and a couple of them were eight inches. 1529 01:13:00.390 --> 01:13:04.390 So they needed to provide additional information, 1530 01:13:04.390 --> 01:13:05.700 for those two lines. 1531 01:13:05.700 --> 01:13:09.810 And they did, they said this mice was 21.23, 1532 01:13:09.810 --> 01:13:13.760 and that is not in an unusually sensitive area. 1533 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.490 We want to make sure that those numbers are identical, 1534 01:13:16.490 --> 01:13:20.623 in the other shapefile, and they are, perfect. 1535 01:13:21.670 --> 01:13:25.680 Also to point out that the operator determined, 1536 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.130 with these two pieces of information, 1537 01:13:28.130 --> 01:13:30.500 that the line is not regulated. 1538 01:13:30.500 --> 01:13:33.150 That's because the SYS is greater than 20, 1539 01:13:33.150 --> 01:13:35.980 but it is not in an unusually sensitive area. 1540 01:13:35.980 --> 01:13:40.033 So if this was yes for USA, Texas reg would also be yes. 1541 01:13:42.940 --> 01:13:43.773 Okay, cool. 1542 01:13:43.773 --> 01:13:46.480 That is the partial transfer. 1543 01:13:46.480 --> 01:13:50.950 And basically the transfer merge works the same way. 1544 01:13:50.950 --> 01:13:53.290 So as the acquiring operator, 1545 01:13:53.290 --> 01:13:55.157 you can kind of imagine it the same way, 1546 01:13:55.157 --> 01:13:57.010 you have your existing lines, 1547 01:13:57.010 --> 01:13:58.950 and you're bringing in some other lines. 1548 01:13:58.950 --> 01:14:00.590 So you have to amend your permit, 1549 01:14:00.590 --> 01:14:02.680 and show that updated mapping. 1550 01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:04.560 So the only thing that you would do differently, 1551 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:09.560 as the acquiring operator is to put the TM here, 1552 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:10.960 instead of PT. 1553 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:13.250 And that will signal to us the mappers, 1554 01:14:13.250 --> 01:14:15.373 Okay this is part of a transfer merge. 1555 01:14:18.870 --> 01:14:19.703 Cool, okay. 1556 01:14:19.703 --> 01:14:23.380 So that is my little ArcMap demo. 1557 01:14:23.380 --> 01:14:25.600 The last thing I'm gonna bore you all with, 1558 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:30.530 is to show you a sample cover letter. 1559 01:14:30.530 --> 01:14:33.810 It's like a mock cover letter that just shows really, 1560 01:14:33.810 --> 01:14:37.610 the most important stuff we wanna see on your cover letter. 1561 01:14:37.610 --> 01:14:41.730 And also how you can use that T4 amendment field, 1562 01:14:41.730 --> 01:14:45.400 to create a link between your cover letter and your mapping. 1563 01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:47.930 That is really what we would love to see, 1564 01:14:47.930 --> 01:14:50.700 going forward with future amendments. 1565 01:14:50.700 --> 01:14:54.810 Basically, you break this down in this table right here. 1566 01:14:54.810 --> 01:14:57.220 This operator is saying, okay, 1567 01:14:57.220 --> 01:14:59.780 I had this many miles at the beginning. 1568 01:14:59.780 --> 01:15:02.020 Here's how many miles are changing, 1569 01:15:02.020 --> 01:15:05.310 here's the code that is associated with that. 1570 01:15:05.310 --> 01:15:07.720 And here is the updated mileage. 1571 01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:09.790 So this table is really simple, 1572 01:15:09.790 --> 01:15:12.300 but really it's just, it's perfect, it's all we need. 1573 01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:13.670 If we have the numbers, 1574 01:15:13.670 --> 01:15:17.290 and we have the code that is associated with the numbers. 1575 01:15:17.290 --> 01:15:19.430 You know, you can put the description here. 1576 01:15:19.430 --> 01:15:22.200 We appreciate like a paragraph as well, 1577 01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:24.950 but things do get lost in translation, 1578 01:15:24.950 --> 01:15:28.090 And it's just easier to just break it down this way, 1579 01:15:28.090 --> 01:15:30.593 so that there's no ambiguity. 1580 01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:41.670 Is it y'all, here are some resources. 1581 01:15:41.670 --> 01:15:44.640 So our homepage, our GIS viewer, 1582 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.460 where you can see your permits at any time, 1583 01:15:47.460 --> 01:15:49.270 that's updated nightly. 1584 01:15:49.270 --> 01:15:52.830 Here's that new document I've been looking over with y'all 1585 01:15:52.830 --> 01:15:56.400 sample cover letters, overview, maps, and shapefile. 1586 01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:58.872 And here's a link to those new rules. 1587 01:15:58.872 --> 01:16:02.083 Here's us from today, if you wanna reach out. 1588 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:08.960 Lastly, if you guys have questions about POPS, 1589 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.940 you can email the POPS email address. 1590 01:16:11.940 --> 01:16:13.840 And if you have questions about mapping, 1591 01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:16.960 email the TPMS email address. 1592 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:18.880 Also, if you want your shapefiles, 1593 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:20.770 like what we have on file for your permit, 1594 01:16:20.770 --> 01:16:23.260 you can also send that request to TPMS. 1595 01:16:23.260 --> 01:16:26.290 Just include your T4 permit number. 1596 01:16:26.290 --> 01:16:28.080 And if you just have any general questions, 1597 01:16:28.080 --> 01:16:29.973 you can always call our main line. 1598 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:32.733 Any questions? 1599 01:16:35.990 --> 01:16:39.060 Yeah we have a few questions Chris, 1600 01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:41.910 first question is, if we have a pending application, 1601 01:16:41.910 --> 01:16:45.670 with RRC changes to TPMS 1602 01:16:45.670 --> 01:16:47.130 advocates less codes, 1603 01:16:47.130 --> 01:16:51.123 do we need to refile with updated attributes less codes? 1604 01:16:54.120 --> 01:16:55.720 Hold on I'm just reading this. 1605 01:17:01.430 --> 01:17:02.580 That's a good question. 1606 01:17:08.690 --> 01:17:10.480 I think would be a case-by-case basis. 1607 01:17:10.480 --> 01:17:13.220 I would reach out to me and tell me specifically, 1608 01:17:13.220 --> 01:17:16.760 what your case is and what you feel like it's different 1609 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:17.890 between those two documents. 1610 01:17:17.890 --> 01:17:19.923 And we can talk about it at that point. 1611 01:17:23.230 --> 01:17:25.290 Okay next question is, 1612 01:17:25.290 --> 01:17:28.160 using the two different diameters. 1613 01:17:28.160 --> 01:17:29.323 A a little versus OD, 1614 01:17:30.356 --> 01:17:34.077 is very difficult encoding is shapefiles to submit. 1615 01:17:35.506 --> 01:17:37.156 Yes that's not really a question. 1616 01:17:39.420 --> 01:17:40.970 Yeah, just to address, I mean, 1617 01:17:40.970 --> 01:17:42.200 this isn't so much to address that, 1618 01:17:42.200 --> 01:17:45.490 but outside diameter is the value that you need to use, 1619 01:17:45.490 --> 01:17:48.160 like I said, for 12 inches or less. 1620 01:17:48.160 --> 01:17:50.170 If you can use the nominal size, 1621 01:17:50.170 --> 01:17:53.693 but only if your pipeline is greater than 12 inches. 1622 01:17:54.900 --> 01:17:57.310 Next one, can you please repeat the name, 1623 01:17:57.310 --> 01:18:01.133 of the projected coordinate system that you use? 1624 01:18:02.220 --> 01:18:04.943 Texas Statewide Mapping System. 1625 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:07.950 Next question example, 1626 01:18:07.950 --> 01:18:12.237 pipeline X was erroneously submitted to the TX RRC. 1627 01:18:14.110 --> 01:18:17.417 And as an addition to an existing permit, 1628 01:18:17.417 --> 01:18:20.090 for pipeline X was actually never constructed, 1629 01:18:20.090 --> 01:18:25.090 slash installed, does offer to then code pipeline X as a DP, 1630 01:18:25.410 --> 01:18:28.710 in the T4_AMD code. 1631 01:18:28.710 --> 01:18:31.510 Second, if a pipeline is abandoned, 1632 01:18:31.510 --> 01:18:33.440 and removed from the ground, 1633 01:18:33.440 --> 01:18:38.440 is that also coded as DP for the T4_AMD instead of BP. 1634 01:18:40.990 --> 01:18:43.420 So yes to your first question, 1635 01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:46.180 if you submitted a line to us to be built, 1636 01:18:46.180 --> 01:18:47.700 but it never got built. 1637 01:18:47.700 --> 01:18:50.220 Yes you'll use that code DP, 1638 01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:52.040 and you'll say in the cover letter. 1639 01:18:52.040 --> 01:18:54.330 So if you ever use DP, 1640 01:18:54.330 --> 01:18:56.530 please make mention of why you're deleting it, 1641 01:18:56.530 --> 01:18:57.363 in the cover letter. 1642 01:18:57.363 --> 01:18:59.370 So if it's been removed from the ground, 1643 01:18:59.370 --> 01:19:02.000 or in this case, if it was never constructed, just say, 1644 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:03.160 we're deleting this pipeline, 1645 01:19:03.160 --> 01:19:05.040 because it was never constructed. 1646 01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:06.663 So yes, use DP for them. 1647 01:19:08.555 --> 01:19:10.800 And if your pipeline is removed from the ground, 1648 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.673 same goes, you'll use DP. 1649 01:19:15.010 --> 01:19:19.160 If you use abandoned, you could use abandoned first, 1650 01:19:19.160 --> 01:19:21.970 but if your pipeline is being removed from the ground, 1651 01:19:21.970 --> 01:19:24.580 it doesn't need to be marked as abandoned for us. 1652 01:19:24.580 --> 01:19:27.091 You can just straight up delete that. 1653 01:19:27.091 --> 01:19:29.320 Hey Chris, another question is, 1654 01:19:29.320 --> 01:19:31.240 if you choose the report option, 1655 01:19:31.240 --> 01:19:33.433 you also have to file PS-48. 1656 01:19:34.691 --> 01:19:37.743 Is there a template for the month of the report? 1657 01:19:39.380 --> 01:19:42.460 I'm thinking Ryan or Karley might be better, 1658 01:19:42.460 --> 01:19:44.470 on the PS-48 stuff, 1659 01:19:44.470 --> 01:19:47.130 on when you have to file the new construction report. 1660 01:19:47.130 --> 01:19:48.713 Y'all wanna hop in on this one. 1661 01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:54.310 Yes this is Karley, I'll take this one. 1662 01:19:54.310 --> 01:19:56.420 If you do go the monthly route, 1663 01:19:56.420 --> 01:19:58.170 for those new construction reports, 1664 01:19:58.170 --> 01:20:00.853 you don't need to file a PS-48. 1665 01:20:00.853 --> 01:20:03.560 It's kind of a one or the other. 1666 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:07.810 And at this time we don't have a template available, 1667 01:20:07.810 --> 01:20:09.690 for the monthly report, 1668 01:20:09.690 --> 01:20:12.064 but there are certain criteria, 1669 01:20:12.064 --> 01:20:13.564 that we do wanna see on there. 1670 01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:19.910 And the other question is, 1671 01:20:19.910 --> 01:20:21.700 can we have this presentation again, 1672 01:20:21.700 --> 01:20:23.700 the last slide that we'll show in just a few minutes, 1673 01:20:23.700 --> 01:20:25.063 we'll have a link to that. 1674 01:20:26.150 --> 01:20:29.670 Next question thanks, Ryan for the help. 1675 01:20:29.670 --> 01:20:31.350 That information, is already listed, 1676 01:20:31.350 --> 01:20:35.507 under Texas reg wide TAC Chapter 8.818. 1677 01:20:35.507 --> 01:20:39.770 And just trying to figure out how to file a low line, 1678 01:20:39.770 --> 01:20:44.273 that is regulated per TAC Chapter 8.8 11A 1B, 1679 01:20:46.110 --> 01:20:51.110 but not regulated under CFR 191 dash 195 through 185. 1680 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.533 Is there a way to attribute these lines under Texas reg? 1681 01:20:59.240 --> 01:21:02.010 Ryan do you know about this one? 1682 01:21:02.010 --> 01:21:04.750 I know that it will require a permit, 1683 01:21:04.750 --> 01:21:08.300 but I believe you would just mark it as Texas reg no, 1684 01:21:08.300 --> 01:21:09.400 in the shapefile. 1685 01:21:09.400 --> 01:21:14.400 If it is not regulated under CFR 192 and 195. 1686 01:21:14.490 --> 01:21:17.220 Ryan, do you have anything else you wanna add to that? 1687 01:21:17.220 --> 01:21:19.600 This one would still be extra, I guess, 1688 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:22.663 because it'd be a Class 2 or higher, 1689 01:21:24.200 --> 01:21:25.883 even though it is a flow line. 1690 01:21:30.670 --> 01:21:33.520 If you're having issues with the system rejecting it. 1691 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:37.753 If it's, if you put Class 1 and then clicks through yes, 1692 01:21:39.380 --> 01:21:42.650 if some operators I think have read and just put Class 2, 1693 01:21:42.650 --> 01:21:47.075 so press two and they're the validations were to go through, 1694 01:21:47.075 --> 01:21:50.610 a cluster higher and you can still submit for that segment, 1695 01:21:50.610 --> 01:21:53.573 texture, I guess, or that flow line. 1696 01:21:54.427 --> 01:21:55.720 There shouldn't be any issues on our end, 1697 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:57.370 as far as getting that submitted. 1698 01:21:59.750 --> 01:22:02.999 You have a further question on this we can go, 1699 01:22:02.999 --> 01:22:04.120 maybe you can submit another question, 1700 01:22:04.120 --> 01:22:06.120 or you can shoot me an email, 1701 01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:08.120 and we can follow up after this as well. 1702 01:22:10.050 --> 01:22:12.087 Right, thank you. 1703 01:22:12.087 --> 01:22:12.920 All right another question. 1704 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:14.390 Can you please provide additional information, 1705 01:22:14.390 --> 01:22:18.570 on the 30 day commission notification listed on the T4 A. 1706 01:22:27.200 --> 01:22:30.147 Ryan I'm not sure about what this is, 1707 01:22:30.147 --> 01:22:32.490 the 30 day commission notification. 1708 01:22:32.490 --> 01:22:35.663 I think this might be yours doing. 1709 01:22:39.652 --> 01:22:42.220 I'm assuming they're talking to you about the 30 days, 1710 01:22:42.220 --> 01:22:44.113 for us to review a permit. 1711 01:22:46.730 --> 01:22:50.600 And we have 30 days from when the permit is submitted, 1712 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:54.363 to make an action on it, either reject it or approve it. 1713 01:22:56.100 --> 01:22:58.710 We normally run about two weeks for our rule, 1714 01:22:58.710 --> 01:23:03.710 we have 30 days and if it's rejected and then resubmit it, 1715 01:23:04.910 --> 01:23:07.123 the 30 days does start over. 1716 01:23:11.970 --> 01:23:14.493 Okay let's see. 1717 01:23:16.761 --> 01:23:18.960 So you cannot delete the abandoned. 1718 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.833 So you cannot delete abandoned line from your T4, 1719 01:23:23.007 --> 01:23:24.507 for question mark. 1720 01:23:26.380 --> 01:23:28.460 Yeah I'm Chris you're muted. 1721 01:23:28.460 --> 01:23:30.010 Chris, you're muted 1722 01:23:30.010 --> 01:23:31.510 Yes, okay, thank you, Deana. 1723 01:23:32.690 --> 01:23:37.690 So you cannot delete an abandoned line, 1724 01:23:37.850 --> 01:23:41.120 unless you have physically removed it from the ground, 1725 01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:42.640 or if there's some other reason why, 1726 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:44.130 it shouldn't be shown up in mapping, 1727 01:23:44.130 --> 01:23:46.290 like it's not permitted with us. 1728 01:23:46.290 --> 01:23:48.080 But if it's just an old abandoned line, 1729 01:23:48.080 --> 01:23:50.420 and you have not physically removed it from the ground, 1730 01:23:50.420 --> 01:23:51.853 it needs to stick in there. 1731 01:23:53.090 --> 01:23:54.620 Okay another question. 1732 01:23:54.620 --> 01:23:57.411 Whether there is a new line, I'm sorry Ryan. 1733 01:23:57.411 --> 01:23:58.244 I wasn't here for that real quick. 1734 01:23:58.244 --> 01:24:01.230 Even if it's a pipeline was never built, 1735 01:24:01.230 --> 01:24:03.520 or it's a been removed, 1736 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.430 we still would like that to actually stay in the mapping 1737 01:24:07.454 --> 01:24:09.260 just because that information, 1738 01:24:09.260 --> 01:24:12.640 is on our public viewer, which is used heavily by landowners 1739 01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:15.670 and other people off the public. 1740 01:24:15.670 --> 01:24:20.670 And it makes it difficult to provide information, 1741 01:24:23.540 --> 01:24:26.640 when the lines just suddenly disappear overnight, 1742 01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:28.720 and then operator calls up and say, 1743 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:30.380 or the landowner calls and say hey, 1744 01:24:30.380 --> 01:24:31.520 what happened to this line? 1745 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:35.423 That was your own personal land, or anything like that. 1746 01:24:36.330 --> 01:24:38.530 So, and then effort for transparency. 1747 01:24:38.530 --> 01:24:40.590 We're asking that all lines stay on. 1748 01:24:40.590 --> 01:24:42.660 Even if they were moved from the ground, 1749 01:24:42.660 --> 01:24:44.930 that way they can stay in our, 1750 01:24:44.930 --> 01:24:46.450 we'll have information on them. 1751 01:24:46.450 --> 01:24:48.923 And they can stay in the public view as well. 1752 01:24:51.300 --> 01:24:52.690 Thank you. 1753 01:24:52.690 --> 01:24:55.510 When is there, when is a new line permitted, 1754 01:24:55.510 --> 01:24:57.463 the T4A says we have to submit, 1755 01:24:57.463 --> 01:25:01.963 a 30 day commission notification, to the TRCC or RC. 1756 01:25:04.580 --> 01:25:07.083 I think that was following up on the last one. 1757 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:11.353 Let's see. 1758 01:25:11.353 --> 01:25:16.270 How do we submit an unregulated Class 2 type B, 1759 01:25:16.270 --> 01:25:17.663 gas gathering line? 1760 01:25:22.620 --> 01:25:25.960 Assuming that by submitting it, 1761 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:28.900 you mean to report it to us for the first time, 1762 01:25:28.900 --> 01:25:31.777 you would submit a new permit on POPS. 1763 01:25:31.777 --> 01:25:36.777 And how do we submit an unregulated Class 2B? 1764 01:25:37.793 --> 01:25:39.570 I didn't know if I said, I'm sorry. 1765 01:25:41.467 --> 01:25:43.407 You're assuming that it's a new permit, 1766 01:25:43.407 --> 01:25:45.570 and you've never submitted it to us. 1767 01:25:45.570 --> 01:25:49.660 You'll go onto POPS and submit your mapping, 1768 01:25:49.660 --> 01:25:52.770 and you'll submit an application for a new permit, 1769 01:25:52.770 --> 01:25:57.050 in order to get that updated to us. 1770 01:25:57.050 --> 01:25:58.900 And in the shapefile, you'll just make sure, 1771 01:25:58.900 --> 01:26:03.130 to put all of the codes in that, meet your criteria, 1772 01:26:03.130 --> 01:26:04.630 and tell us what your line is. 1773 01:26:05.660 --> 01:26:07.740 Yes, yes another question. 1774 01:26:07.740 --> 01:26:12.350 Do we take the mileage off the T4 permit in abandoned lines 1775 01:26:12.350 --> 01:26:16.800 so that we won't get charged a fee on those pipelines? 1776 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.960 You can, you don't have to, 1777 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:23.110 we don't charge you for the abandoned lines, anyway, 1778 01:26:23.110 --> 01:26:26.030 we already can tell which lines are abandoned, 1779 01:26:26.030 --> 01:26:27.070 and they don't get charged. 1780 01:26:27.070 --> 01:26:29.263 So if you wanna put in your cover letter, 1781 01:26:30.240 --> 01:26:32.500 you know, only the active mileage, that's fine. 1782 01:26:32.500 --> 01:26:34.450 In fact, some reviewers prefer that, 1783 01:26:34.450 --> 01:26:36.720 just to tell us what's active, 1784 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:38.350 but as for the mapping side, 1785 01:26:38.350 --> 01:26:40.970 you still want to have them in there, 1786 01:26:40.970 --> 01:26:42.670 on the cover letter side, it's kind of up to you. 1787 01:26:42.670 --> 01:26:44.380 If you wanna tell us total mileage, 1788 01:26:44.380 --> 01:26:46.920 or just total active mileage, you can break that down, 1789 01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:47.770 however you want. 1790 01:26:49.130 --> 01:26:51.180 There's the last question. 1791 01:26:51.180 --> 01:26:52.390 I was going to clarify too, 1792 01:26:52.390 --> 01:26:57.390 on that unregulated type Class 2 type B gathering line, 1793 01:26:57.490 --> 01:26:59.470 Ryan, those are those situations, 1794 01:26:59.470 --> 01:27:01.220 and you might need to jump in here. 1795 01:27:02.060 --> 01:27:04.010 We have to almost override the validations. 1796 01:27:04.010 --> 01:27:06.420 They're very rare, they don't happen as often, 1797 01:27:06.420 --> 01:27:09.320 but I think we decided to do something in the cover letter 1798 01:27:10.200 --> 01:27:14.973 and then say TA, I think it's, you'd say Texas reg. 1799 01:27:16.258 --> 01:27:18.150 There's something, but in the cover letter, 1800 01:27:18.150 --> 01:27:20.160 cause it's gonna automatically validate, 1801 01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:22.600 is Texas regulated yes. 1802 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:24.250 But in the cover letter they would state that, 1803 01:27:24.250 --> 01:27:29.250 this is, unregulated under that type B validation. 1804 01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:34.486 (mumbles) 1805 01:27:37.130 --> 01:27:38.661 There was a followup question, 1806 01:27:38.661 --> 01:27:41.063 do you want me to read it before wait for the answer? 1807 01:27:44.090 --> 01:27:45.140 We can read it now. 1808 01:27:46.190 --> 01:27:49.000 So for an unregulated Class 2 type B, 1809 01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.200 gas gathering line, would you put no in the regulated field 1810 01:27:52.200 --> 01:27:53.130 but Class 2. 1811 01:27:56.610 --> 01:28:00.520 So with that the automatic validations that run. 1812 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.073 So like where Stephanie was talking about, 1813 01:28:04.180 --> 01:28:05.720 you have to put yes, 1814 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.720 but include that information in your cover letter, 1815 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:12.110 and then we'll have to contract our IT department, 1816 01:28:12.110 --> 01:28:13.870 in February do a workaround. 1817 01:28:13.870 --> 01:28:15.933 They get that for it's March. 1818 01:28:16.908 --> 01:28:19.670 Once the permit is issued and everything is correct, 1819 01:28:19.670 --> 01:28:21.840 but in order for the permit to even be submitted, 1820 01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:25.968 and get past the initial validations of our system, 1821 01:28:25.968 --> 01:28:29.370 for the Class 2 on a Texas reg yes. 1822 01:28:29.370 --> 01:28:30.700 So as knowing that cover letter, 1823 01:28:30.700 --> 01:28:34.930 or you can give one of us email or call as well, 1824 01:28:34.930 --> 01:28:37.420 and we'll work with you to get that permit, 1825 01:28:37.420 --> 01:28:39.853 correct before it is issued. 1826 01:28:43.730 --> 01:28:45.560 Okay the next question, 1827 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:50.060 there is no option for production lines under commodity one 1828 01:28:50.060 --> 01:28:54.523 for liquid lines production being defined by 195.2, 1829 01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:58.260 regardless of diameter, 1830 01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:01.330 how do we report production line after the meter, 1831 01:29:01.330 --> 01:29:03.300 for liquid ones that are not regulated, 1832 01:29:03.300 --> 01:29:04.550 but needs to be reported. 1833 01:29:08.301 --> 01:29:11.147 I'll take this one Chris, those would be reported, 1834 01:29:12.003 --> 01:29:13.623 as a gathering lines. 1835 01:29:15.290 --> 01:29:18.150 So you would, if you don't have a permit, 1836 01:29:18.150 --> 01:29:19.110 you need to get a permit. 1837 01:29:19.110 --> 01:29:23.520 If you have one, and these are new production lines, 1838 01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:25.328 that need to be reported, 1839 01:29:25.328 --> 01:29:27.430 you would amend the permit and mark them, 1840 01:29:27.430 --> 01:29:30.690 as liquid gathering lines and, you know, 1841 01:29:30.690 --> 01:29:35.690 none rural I'm assuming and get them permitted that way. 1842 01:29:38.090 --> 01:29:40.120 And the last question that I have is, 1843 01:29:40.120 --> 01:29:43.910 why not accept old mapping on transfer merge option, 1844 01:29:43.910 --> 01:29:46.700 by requiring new operators to read new mapping, 1845 01:29:46.700 --> 01:29:48.330 that causes some small operators 1846 01:29:48.330 --> 01:29:50.993 additional costs of hiring GIS support. 1847 01:29:54.780 --> 01:29:56.840 Yeah, I definitely hear that. 1848 01:29:56.840 --> 01:30:00.680 The reason is simply because with the previous way, 1849 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:03.910 there was no need for us to get updated mapping, 1850 01:30:03.910 --> 01:30:04.743 from you guys, 1851 01:30:04.743 --> 01:30:07.700 because the system just completely transfers over. 1852 01:30:07.700 --> 01:30:11.740 But with this new way, there has to be updated shapefiles, 1853 01:30:11.740 --> 01:30:14.320 because you're essentially doing a partial transfer. 1854 01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:17.580 You're bringing it in your mapping is changing. 1855 01:30:17.580 --> 01:30:20.760 So we need to have new shapefiles for that. 1856 01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:21.955 I definitely hear that, 1857 01:30:21.955 --> 01:30:24.355 but that's still something that we need to have. 1858 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.259 Okay I think that covers all of our questions, 1859 01:30:29.259 --> 01:30:30.955 that concludes our webinar. 1860 01:30:30.955 --> 01:30:32.900 I want to thank you all for participating via Zoom, 1861 01:30:32.900 --> 01:30:34.790 and watching via webcast. 1862 01:30:34.790 --> 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